I think Lawrence goes first. Then Wilson. So we would be willing to spend number six on....a huge reach in my opinion...out of desperation. That would be sad. Take the stud pass catcher at six. He’ll make the QB better...whomever it is.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I think Lawrence goes first. Then Wilson. So we would be willing to spend number six on....a huge reach in my opinion...out of desperation. That would be sad. Take the stud pass catcher at six. He’ll make the QB better...whomever it is.

Matter of opinion cuz I have Lawerence then Sewell.... But if Wilson gone you still have Fields at 6 

Fields by most is consider the 2nd best QB in the class lot saying he is 1B to Lawerence 

Foles I feel like we are helping THEM. Not terrible for us since we likely have higher value for Foles than anybody else.

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Matter of opinion cuz I have Lawerence then Sewell.... But if Wilson gone you still have Fields at 6 

Fields by most is consider the 2nd best QB in the class lot saying he is 1B to Lawerence 

I’ve heard a few state they liked Wilson as maybe the best. Drafting a Ohio St QB is a job killer. Maybe that is what I should be rooting for. No way Rosie keeps his job after taking a Ohio St QB in the top ten. Especially over Chase/Pitts/Smith. That’s break out the pitchfork time for the city.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’ve heard a few state they liked Wilson as maybe the best. Drafting a Ohio St QB is a job killer. Maybe that is what I should be rooting for. No way Rosie keeps his job after taking a Ohio St QB in the top ten. Especially over Chase/Pitts/Smith. That’s break out the pitchfork time for the city.

Because the school defines of a player is good or not I forgot lol....

6 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Matter of opinion cuz I have Lawerence then Sewell.... But if Wilson gone you still have Fields at 6 

Fields by most is consider the 2nd best QB in the class lot saying he is 1B to Lawerence 

You think the Jets are taking Sewell and not taking a QB or trading the pick? I don’t see that happening. Joe Douglas would have really screwed the pooch if this is the outcome.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You think the Jets are taking Sewell and not taking a QB or trading the pick? I don’t see that happening. Joe Douglas would have really screwed the pooch if this is the outcome.

I’ve had the OL at 2 for awhile now. 

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Because the school defines of a player is good or not I forgot lol....

Is what it is. Fields would be under more than usual scrutiny here. Recipe for disaster ...even if he looks decent. He’d have to come out blockbuster. Even in Washington...plenty laughed at them for taking the bait on Haskins. He didn’t even  make it two seasons. Owner didn’t get fired. GM did.

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I’ve had the OL at 2 for awhile now. 

Clarifying...the discussion is actually going in the draft. Not your personal Big Board

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Is what it is. Fields would be under more than usual scrutiny here. Recipe for disaster ...even if he looks decent. He’d have to come out blockbuster. Even in Washington...plenty laughed at them for taking the bait on Haskins. He didn’t even  make it two seasons. Owner didn’t get fired. GM did.

By that logic shouldn’t touch Trask because Tebow was the last QB from there and dear lord help us with a Bama QB Tua meh and every before him were career backups at best that’s being generous. Lol 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

plenty laughed at them for taking the bait on Haskins.

Huge difference between Fields and Haskins. For starters Fields has two years playing at a pretty good level at the college ranks not 1 year. 
 

Also completely different players 

Bama QB...that might be justified also. Makes me hesitant to take their QB. How much of it was the rest of the team?

And Zach Wilson help anyone who draft him Leaf is the last first rounder from BYU your just asking for a huge bust 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Huge difference between Fields and Haskins. For starters Fields has two years playing at a pretty good level at the college ranks not 1 year. 
 

Also completely different players 

Two years....ehh kind of. Asterisk season....fewer games. But Haskins was considered a really highly ranked QB none the less 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Two years....ehh kind of. Asterisk season....fewer games. But Haskins was considered a really highly ranked QB none the less 

The questions on Haskins were there from the get go not there on fields 

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

And Zach Wilson help anyone who draft him Leaf is the last first rounder from BYU your just asking for a huge bust 

Steve Young is a HOF. He ranks pretty high of QBs all time.

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

The questions on Haskins were there from the get go not there on fields 

Ok you are on the books as take Fields at 6. I’m not biting.

I will be pissed if we pass up a stud pass catcher for Fields 

If they do their homework and try and convince me of an Oline at six instead...I’d be more willing to accept.

Back to the 38 pick discussion. I really value this pick. I would rather have our second rounder this year than the Bears first next season if we give them a QB. We have a new coach. That’s a year of development which is crucial.

7 hours ago, joemas6 said:

OK... I will try the question one more time and maybe you can answer this time.... lets not rehash anything prior, or yours or my belief of what success is.  Again... there was an article I read (I didn't write it, so you can argue with the writer about what you think of Andy Reid's success here in Philly)  but it said ..." Andy Reid had to leave Philadelphia to be successful" or find success or whatever I wrote the first time ... anyway... if (I think when) ... lets say Lurie is sitting down watching playoff football, say conference title game ... and he sees AR and Wentz both out there and the narrative is that Wentz had to leave to find success.    Does Lurie ask himself, why aren't these guys doing it for me and my organization?  Does he finally see there could be a problem within the organization.  Like what do they do wrong?  ie Howie?  The guy who seems to butt heads with AR, Doug ... and a few players lately.  And more importantly the guy picking the players.   ie the supporting cast for the coaches and the QB... of which I believe, if the rosters were top notch nobody would be leaving.   

Like I feel bad for the Reid family about the loss of their son, if the Eagles had the current Chiefs roster, Andy doesn't leave back then... you follow.    I also believe if the 2017 roster was here last year, Wentz doesn't leave.   Nor does Doug.   Yet the common denominator, the only GM ever to oversee the firing and hiring of 3 different coaches... that guy is still here ... you know in Philadelphia, where other people have to leave?  

Well,I agree if noone else does. Lurie really needs to split Howies "titles" and find a GM "football guy". Many of us have been saying this awhile, but you're right LURIE has to see it and IDK what it takes. I still say Howie has nude pics of Lurie at a massage parlor

12 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ok you are on the books as take Fields at 6. I’m not biting.

No I’m on the books for Wilson at 6 who I said is we there still but don’t think Fields is a terrible consolation prize 

If reports were false about Wentz wanting out....he could have shut that down real quick. So I believe it. He hasn’t demanded a trade out of his own mouth to the media. Doesn’t mean it’s not the situation. It absolutely is reality. Wentz is smart. He knows how the game is played. I think by being quite he helps facilitate the trade.

1 hour ago, jsb235 said:

Tra Thomas made an interesting point a few weeks ago when he said most of the players don't really care who the qb is. He was responding to a question about what happened when McNabb was benched. And he said they simply said okay and worried about their assignments for the week.

For firstly I think it's a different time now and I think players perceptions are different. But hey I could be wrong. Secondly, I agree to an extent and the main thing is if the team are winning. But Carson wasn't winning and when he wasn't in 2019 and 2020 that's when we heard these rumours. 

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So you think Wentz is welcoming of competing for the starting job...,anywhere?

OK, yuo don't want to answer a direct question about Lurie/ Howie and the organization... keep talking about Wentz, a guy who won't be here.   you justify your favorite coach leaving, with all the off the field stuff  .... I say that if the team had a roster like KC has now, back in 2012 ... I don't think Andy leaves that situation.   I also say that if the roster this past year was the roster we had in 2017, no shot Doug gets fired or Wentz leaving.     I'm talking about the organization's responsibility... how much success do people that Lurie hold in high  esteem have to have elsewhere, for Lurie to ask himself ... what are we doing wrong here?   What is OUR part in all of these situations.   Please, no more mention of Wentz or Andy... strictly the Eagles looking in the mirror.  

10 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Well,I agree if noone else does. Lurie really needs to split Howies "titles" and find a GM "football guy". Many of us have been saying this awhile, but you're right LURIE has to see it and IDK what it takes. I still say Howie has nude pics of Lurie at a massage parlor

Lurie is just as much the problem...if not more. They were demanding Pedey’s staff. No way Wentz gets that contract without Lurie’s approval. Half of Rosie’s job is...voice of Lurie.

5 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

No I’m on the books for Wilson at 6 who I said is we there still but don’t think Fields is a terrible consolation prize 

Right. I think Wilson is the clear number two. So de facto ....you’d take Fields at six.