Jason Peters I’m fine with as coming back at some point want Dillard to take the job from him...Perfect screnario would be A. Dillard besting JP out in camp or B. Taking the reins some long mid-season and JP takes a back seat as a backup 

9 minutes ago, 1wrangler said:

Romanticizing these old players isn't getting it done.  

Not sure why you hell bent on making it such an age thing though we have had a serious injury problem last few years.

Barnett has missed 13 games over the last 3 years

Ronald Darby missed 20 games 

Jalen Mills missed 16 games 

Carson Wentz missed 8 games last 3 years and besides some brief snaps last year all the playoff games

Avonte Maddox 7 missed games in 2 years 

Brandon Brooks lost in two key playoff games and if not for the timing of the injuries would have missed serious time

 

8 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Didn’t 14 of Jackson’s 19 missed games happen last year???? So take that away missed 5 games...

don’t romanticize them realize they likely to miss a few games matters if they can help when healthy...

Jackson's career stats in 7 playoff games. 21 receptions and 2 TD's

24 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Not sure why you hell bent on making it such an age thing though we have had a serious injury problem last few years.

Barnett has missed 13 games over the last 3 years

Ronald Darby missed 20 games 

Jalen Mills missed 16 games 

Carson Wentz missed 8 games last 3 years and besides some brief snaps last year all the playoff games

Avonte Maddox 7 missed games in 2 years 

Brandon Brooks lost in two key playoff games and if not for the timing of the injuries would have missed serious time

 

I'm not hell bent on any player playing or leaving our team. If I am hell bent on anything, it is winning another Super Bowl with the best talent I can put on the field and not constantly repeating the past mistakes. Ronald Darby is gone so he is irrelevant. Brandon Brooks played all 16 regular season games the last three years. Avonte Maddox is not a long term answer for the club. He will be replaced as soon as some talent steps up to the plate. Yes Wentz has had injuries and yes the Eagles drafted a QB in the second round as an insurance policy to those issues. If you think it was for any other reason then I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale you might be interested in. Jalen Mills was moved to another position to avoid paying him. Notice the one year contract instead of three years? Does that look long term to you? Plus the Eagles signed S Will Parks in free agency and drafted S K'Von Wallace so this is the last stop for Mills with the Eagles if he doesn't produce and he has gotten more opportunities to excel for the Eagles than a lot of other players. Barnett's health will be assessed after his rookie contract is done at the end of this year. I like the man but you can only help your team if you are on the field. The Eagles will have to determine whether Barnett's health concerns are an aberration or whether they feel they will be a constant going forward. That's their job. 

53 minutes ago, 1wrangler said:

Jackson's career stats in 7 playoff games. 21 receptions and 2 TD's

And???? Brandon Cooks in 6 games has 29’catches 0 tds less yards per catch 

2 minutes ago, 1wrangler said:

I'm not hell bent on any player playing or leaving our team. If I am hell bent on anything, it is winning another Super Bowl with the best talent I can put on the field and not constantly repeating the past mistakes. Ronald Darby is gone so he is irrelevant. Brandon Brooks played all 16 regular season games the last three years. Avonte Maddox is not a long term answer for the club. He will be replaced as soon as some talent steps up to the plate. Yes Wentz has had injuries and yes the Eagles drafted a QB in the second round as an insurance policy to those issues. If you think it was for any other reason then I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale you might be interested in. Jalen Mills was moved to another position to avoid paying him. Notice the one year contract instead of three years? Does that look long term to you? Plus the Eagles signed S Will Parks in free agency and drafted S K'Von Wallace so this is the last stop for Mills with the Eagles if he doesn't produce and he has gotten more opportunities to excel for the Eagles than a lot of other players. Barnett's health will be assessed after his rookie contract is done at the end of this year. I like the man but you can only help your team if you are on the field. The Eagles will have to determine whether Barnett's health concerns are an aberration or whether they feel they will be a constant going forward. That's their job. 

Lmao great brooks plays 16 regular season games but misses the important playoff games... And again you just keep missing the point you are so focused on the age but the isn’t the issue the problem is the injuries all together young and old...

Also don’t see Maddox going anywhere dude is a massive talent 

Same can be said for Hicks when he was here great player we could not keep him healthy yet stayed healthy in AZ 

12 minutes ago, 1wrangler said:

Does that look long term to you?

Lmao 😂 you talk Mills and Maddox as short term option so it’s fine yet bring up the old guys like they are our long term solutions...If that is the case then we have Reagor and a all bunch of other guys for Djax who we can easily walk away from next season so he is basically the same as mills 

7 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Lmao 😂 you talk Mills and Maddox as short term option so it’s fine yet bring up the old guys like they are our long term solutions...If that is the case then we have Reagor and a all bunch of other guys for Djax who we can easily walk away from next season so he is basically the same as mills 

LOL Have a nice day 93!

36 minutes ago, 1wrangler said:

LOL Have a nice day 93!

I just don’t understand you logic it makes zero sense...You talk about the issue like it is us going after some older players yet that is as far from the truth as possible... If you want to talk injuries I can understand but don’t limit it to a narrow view this team has a serious medical staff problem I have voiced this concern plenty.

You talk about the handful of older guys we carry on the team yet neglect the youth that isn’t living up to the bill ie Barnett often injured and hasn’t produced at a high level honestly thought he best season was his rookie year as a rotation player. If we going to talk issue talk about al of it not just single in on the handful of vets 

2 hours ago, 1wrangler said:

Jackson's career stats in 7 playoff games. 21 receptions and 2 TD's

True.... would like to see what he could do with Wentz at QB and Doug calling the plays though.   

3 hours ago, stine said:

  The NFL is going to have to have some sort of exemptions for next year. How are teams going to chop off that much cap Space? Not only the Eagles will have this issue. I am sure half the league will.....

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/

FYI.... just a quick look at the league and team's cap #s ... projected fro 2021.    If the cap gets lowered for some reason ... say $20 mil.   Not looking great for the Eagles.   But I don't see it.  The 2021 projections should be high for the cap... looking at 2021 revenue.  

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/eagles-gm-howie-roseman-admits-team-needs-to-infuse-youth-after-having-second-oldest-roster-in-nfl/

1 hour ago, 1wrangler said:

I'm not hell bent on any player playing or leaving our team. If I am hell bent on anything, it is winning another Super Bowl with the best talent I can put on the field and not constantly repeating the past mistakes. Ronald Darby is gone so he is irrelevant. Brandon Brooks played all 16 regular season games the last three years. Avonte Maddox is not a long term answer for the club. He will be replaced as soon as some talent steps up to the plate. Yes Wentz has had injuries and yes the Eagles drafted a QB in the second round as an insurance policy to those issues. If you think it was for any other reason then I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale you might be interested in. Jalen Mills was moved to another position to avoid paying him. Notice the one year contract instead of three years? Does that look long term to you? Plus the Eagles signed S Will Parks in free agency and drafted S K'Von Wallace so this is the last stop for Mills with the Eagles if he doesn't produce and he has gotten more opportunities to excel for the Eagles than a lot of other players. Barnett's health will be assessed after his rookie contract is done at the end of this year. I like the man but you can only help your team if you are on the field. The Eagles will have to determine whether Barnett's health concerns are an aberration or whether they feel they will be a constant going forward. That's their job. 

Some good points here..... I could counter though.... Maddox is young, just don't know yet.   Mills, I think is still getting decent $$$... he had 31 other teams that could have paid him more than $4 mil to be a CB?    Although I do think he will play more at CB than a lot of other people seem to.      Wentz ... and Hurts... for sure there was a money saving move in getting a cheap QB for 4 years.   Really for the next 2 years it was huge.... with the rollover cap you need to look at the savings each year and add that up.  Its why they couldn't offer Clement a low level tender and had to redo a contract with Douglas.... they need to pinch every penny.    It's not your area of expertise as you always say... yet it is a factor.  

And Barnett has more than " health" concerns... dude was the 14th pick.... needs to step up!   Being how highly everyone seemed to look at pick 53 this year... that " needs to be a starter"  etc.... well ... 39 picks sooner should be one of your elite guys.   Gotta show it.  

11 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

      Wentz ... and Hurts... for sure there was a money saving move in getting a cheap QB for 4 years.   Really for the next 2 years it was huge.... with the rollover cap you need to look at the savings each year and add that up.  Its why they couldn't offer Clement a low level tender and had to redo a contract with Douglas.... they need to pinch every penny.    It's not your area of expertise as you always say... yet it is a factor.  

Brian Baldinger 

"If I just throw out Russell Wilson as my comparison, I’m not being foolish. Russell Wilson is a top-five quarterback in the league and has been for almost eight years now. He’s an unparalleled competitor. [Hurts] is bigger and stronger than Russell Wilson and he’s as fast. He can’t throw it like Russell can right now, but Russell didn’t throw it like that when he first came to Seattle in 2012. He’s gotten better over the years. Hurts has the same ability to escape, to extend, to look down the field, to find open receivers… I think this guy is going to end up being a starting quarterback in the NFL.”

In March, Brian Baldinger predicted that the Eagles would draft Jalen Hurts with the 53rd pick.

1 minute ago, 1wrangler said:

In March, Brian Baldinger predicted that the Eagles would draft Jalen Hurts with the 53rd pick.

Awesome.... and he comes cheap and saves the Eagles a lot of cap space in the next few years...... I think when the Eagles extend Wentz with a big restructure next year.... perhaps the lightbulb will finally go off.   It's hard right now because people just don't think salary cap matters and they mock draft to death and get so into it.    The Eagles base their foundation of team building on the salary cap.   They draft the expensive positions so that they can get them cheap and redo a contract before players hit the open market.  They also like backup players at those spots and having the depth locked up for cheap.    They fiddle around with LB, RB and S because they are cheaper positions... it's why we never see them drafted in round 1.  

Every year a mock draft for this great LB or S...or RB... we don't get that player??????   Why is that?   It's how they use economics in their philosophy.   But this doubt for Wentz now... it's justified... the guy who couldn't keep his job in college is getting some hype now.... when Wentz gets $$$ to open up cap space next year, then it will become obvious.  But for now... let the hype for Hurts and the doubt for Wentz be  a thing.  Nobody wants to hear we spent a 2nd round pick ... in a draft that was the only legit thing in sports due to this pandemic .... because it saves us $$$.   That takes all the fun away.  It has to be because this guy is great and they lack confidence in Wentz.   Come next Feb/March... the age of enlightenment will hit.  

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

And Barnett has more than " health" concerns... dude was the 14th pick.... needs to step up!   Being how highly everyone seemed to look at pick 53 this year... that " needs to be a starter"  etc.... well ... 39 picks sooner should be one of your elite guys.   Gotta show it.  

Brandon Graham drafted with the 13th pick in the first round. Stats for first three years in the league

Played in 32 games in his first three seasons out of a possible 48

Solo tackles 46 , Assists 9, Tackles for Loss 8, Forced Fumbles 2, QB Hits 19, sacks 8.5

Derrick Barnett drafted with the 14th pick in the first round. Stats for first three years in the league

Played in 35 games in his first three seasons out of a possible 48

Solo tackles 54, Assists 13, Tackles for a Loss, 23, Forced Fumbles 3, 2 fumbles recovered, QB hits 49, sacks 14, 1 TD

30 minutes ago, 1wrangler said:

Brandon Graham drafted with the 13th pick in the first round. Stats for first three years in the league

Played in 32 games in his first three seasons out of a possible 48

Solo tackles 46 , Assists 9, Tackles for Loss 8, Forced Fumbles 2, QB Hits 19, sacks 8.5

Derrick Barnett drafted with the 14th pick in the first round. Stats for first three years in the league

Played in 35 games in his first three seasons out of a possible 48

Solo tackles 54, Assists 13, Tackles for a Loss, 23, Forced Fumbles 3, 2 fumbles recovered, QB hits 49, sacks 14, 1 TD

Are we really using Graham as the measuring stick???? Not mention he had an injury some were not even sure he would come back from and was labeled a bust for most of his career 

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Are we really using Graham as the measuring stick???? Not mention he had an injury some were not even sure he would come back from and was labeled a bust for most of his career 

Yeah I'm using Graham as a measuring stick. He is 32 years old and still on the ball club so that means he was allowed enough time to produce and he did. What is it with you guys? I produce facts you don't like and you want come up with a million excuses. If that isn't the definition of a homer, what is?  

I mean Trent Coles first 3 years missed only 1 game had 25.5 sacks 6 FFs 130 solo tackles...I would think he should be the min. Of what we want 

1 minute ago, 1wrangler said:

Yeah I'm using Graham as a measuring stick. He is 32 years old and still on the ball club so that means he was allowed enough time to produce and he did. What is it with you guys? I produce facts you don't like and you want come up with a million excuses. If that isn't the definition of a homer, what is?  

No you use things to make a player sound better...I have a different measuring stick I don’t want another Graham I want better so if Barnett is another graham that is disappointing to me 

2 minutes ago, 1wrangler said:

Yeah I'm using Graham as a measuring stick. He is 32 years old and still on the ball club so that means he was allowed enough time to produce and he did. What is it with you guys? I produce facts you don't like and you want come up with a million excuses. If that isn't the definition of a homer, what is?  

Lmao homer would mean I blindly follow my guys which im not at all if anything your more of a homer...I am not giving Barnett excuses he ain’t good enough to me I’ve made it clear can he get better sure but until then...

6 minutes ago, 1wrangler said:

Yeah I'm using Graham as a measuring stick. He is 32 years old and still on the ball club so that means he was allowed enough time to produce and he did. What is it with you guys? I produce facts you don't like and you want come up with a million excuses. If that isn't the definition of a homer, what is?  

I AGREE 100% WITH WRANG HERE.     Both Graham and Barnett did not live up to the hype in the first 3 years.   As I stated... time for Barnett to step up.  Absolutely great point by Wrang showing mediocrity in comparison to Barnett.... it's the whole idea.  Bringing in other player's failures is perfect example.  Graham stepped up... so now we need Barnett to do the same.   The Eagles have faith that he can.... so let's see.   Time to end the projections and the potential has been my point.   He is obviously a decent player .... do we want better from a high draft pick that plays a premium position ...who happens to be the only prime age player that has really had any playing time .... the answer is YES.   He is a huge piece of the puzzle  If he remains mediocre or adequate or decent... that will cause some issues.   He needs to step up!  Just like Graham did.    

Can he do it...  I think so ... I don't know for sure, which scares me... it needs to be definite!