IDK so I will ask. When Ped came did he hire his own staff??? If so,and the Howie clamps came down later,that may be a re-run of a move we already saw

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

When Ped came did he hire his own staff???

Yes and no.... He got Reich and I think Flip but he also was forced to have Schwartz an slot of the Chipper hold overs 

9 minutes ago, EaglesTD123 said:

I don't see how you can say that when all you have is hindsight to go on. We were all raving about Wentz in middle of his MVP season AND how well he helped to lead the T-E-A-M in the '18 PO"s almost beating New Orleans. 

That’s fair. But hindsight is exactly what we are talking about. He just survived being fired after this happened.

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Ertz, Kelce Wentz

My take here is they were discussing this org. Kelce probably the least affected, but we know Ertz could be on the block here too. Kelce seems safe until he chooses to leave,the other 2 not so much,but they want/ make the big bucks

11 minutes ago, EaglesTD123 said:

I don't see how you can say that when all you have is hindsight to go on. We were all raving about Wentz in middle of his MVP season AND how well he helped to lead the T-E-A-M in the '18 PO"s almost beating New Orleans. 

That was Foles in 2018 playoffs. Wentz was injured...again

We can say a ton bad about Kelly  but he did have quite the staff especially on O. He is the one who promoted Duce. Stout was his hire, Fipp was a Kelly hire(was pretty good at the start might have gotten stale) had Ryan Day he is pretty good. 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Yes and no.... He got Reich and I think Flip but he also was forced to have Schwartz an slot of the Chipper hold overs 

I think Schwartz was under contract? makes things difficult to breach a contract. I forgot his contract duration(Schwartz's)

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

 

 

 

 Defense we have issues. But offense....we weren’t that far from them. Not 4 wins vs a SB difference for sure.

WTF are you watching?????    Our offense was a dumpster fire of practice squad guys.   No help for either.   so like I said... if the GM gets a pass due to injuries.. then the coach and QB should get that same pass.  The difference... the GM is done once the moves are made... we see how the coach and QB have to work through it each week... so the GM can't really " Regress"  can he.  Nothing close to what KC or Tampa have to work with... not close.  Not what happened on the field, not individual paper either.  

BTW, Sanders inability to catch or block... or to have stamina and remain healthy is a negative factor over just him running the ball and you perceiving him to be this good.  That is a guy who " regressed" and has a lot of work to do to impact the game.  

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Yes and no.... He got Reich and I think Flip but he also was forced to have Schwartz an slot of the Chipper hold overs 

So this is basically the aligning of the stars to where ALL could be fired or let go at the same time

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That was Foles in 2018 playoffs. Wentz was injured...again

The kick was made we talk about how Foles only put up 16 points.  Which I guess is better than 30 points in 2 games?  

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

I think Schwartz was under contract? makes things difficult to breach a contract. I forgot his contract duration(Schwartz's)

Schwartz was hired before Doug was named HC... Was a very weird situation. Could maybe say Doug said I want Schwartz as my DC before he was officially named but seemed more like the FO hired Schwartz to pair with Doug 

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So this is basically the aligning of the stars to where ALL could be fired or let go at the same time

Yeah... no more head coach, OC, DC and QB from 2017.    All on Howie now!   More so than Nate Gerry and Avonte Maddox.  LOL

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Schwartz was hired before Doug was named HC... Was a very weird situation. Could maybe say Doug said I want Schwartz as my DC before he was officially named but seemed more like the FO hired Schwartz to pair with Doug 

Yeah, so in essence Ped knew coming in his DC was Schwartz and he took the job knowing that

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Yeah... no more head coach, OC, DC and QB from 2017.    All on Howie now!   More so than Nate Gerry and Avonte Maddox.  LOL

LOL,so now Howie can screw up drafts with ALL new people to blame. it's a never ending circle of DUMB

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

DeSean is out there waving a gun and gang signs.   Come see.

You’re the one that bought that crap. Obvious snow job i tried to explain to you the whole time. DJax grew up around the hard gang. No news there. Just spin. But now we are arguing about which spin to believe on the current situation. Both see it differently. I believe Pedey was fired because of the fractured relationship between him and Wentz. That was the story. Wasn’t Wentz has fracture with Eagles. It was fractured relationship with HC. They fired Pedey then hired the closest thing to Reich they could. Supposedly Wentz wanted to be traded to Indy. So they brought Indy here. Seems pretty obvious to me. But Wentz didn’t go for it. Because his reputation was tarnished here. That’s too big to overcome for him. The city hates me. Think I’m a pariah getting everyone fired. Now I just need to break from the whole situation to start a new.

9 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

We can say a ton bad about Kelly  but he did have quite the staff especially on O. He is the one who promoted Duce. Stout was his hire, Fipp was a Kelly hire(was pretty good at the start might have gotten stale) had Ryan Day he is pretty good. 

Shurmur Lazor......Billy Davis I wasn’t a fan of though

Hey Joe,looks like more decades of TEAM TMZ, just starting over on volume 7 of the series HAHAHAHA

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Shurmur Lazor 

He also had a nice S&C staff. Don't recall many injuries when he was here. The team sucked,but they all played

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

It's going to take numerous "eggs on face" before Lurie WAKES UP. If Wentz succeeds and Ped succeeds,maybe that will be enough eggs? I dont think Howie needs fired,but Lurie needs to get a GM and let him run this team,not Howie. Howie is ok with contracts(noone saw Wentz's fall off which we are blaming the cap thing on) If we were in the SB noone would be talking about the cap issues 

Howie needs to be fired, there's absolutely zero doubt about that at this point. What does he do well?

8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

WTF are you watching?????    Our offense was a dumpster fire of practice squad guys.   No help for either.   so like I said... if the GM gets a pass due to injuries.. then the coach and QB should get that same pass.  The difference... the GM is done once the moves are made... we see how the coach and QB have to work through it each week... so the GM can't really " Regress"  can he.  Nothing close to what KC or Tampa have to work with... not close.  Not what happened on the field, not individual paper either.  

BTW, Sanders inability to catch or block... or to have stamina and remain healthy is a negative factor over just him running the ball and you perceiving him to be this good.  That is a guy who " regressed" and has a lot of work to do to impact the game.  

On paper before the season started and injuries started. GM wise on offense. Nothing to watch yet. Dillard, Lane and Brooks were injured before the season began. DJax I wouldn’t expect him to play 16 games but even I that was against the move thought he’d give us more than he did.

5 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Howie needs to be fired, there's absolutely zero doubt about that at this point. What does he do well?

He's not terrible with contracts. Noone makes the perfect contract. I have NP with him as the contract guy, like I said my prob is Howie the GM guy and how best to CYA than be those 2 guys rolled into one? In other words Howie the contract guy covers for Howie the GM guy and vice versa. Thats why I have pounded(many moons) to split that up. NOW you have 2 guys and you can blame ONE if things go wrong. Howie is not going to blame himself no matter which hat he has on

10 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

 

BTW, Sanders inability to catch or block... or to have stamina and remain healthy is a negative factor over just him running the ball and you perceiving him to be this good.  That is a guy who " regressed" and has a lot of work to do to impact the game.  

Sanders is a dynamic weapon. Take it to the house from anywhere. I don’t see durability issues so much. He got injured. But not labeling him that.

59 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The bad move would be letting the franchise QB go and him having success.   And then we find out all the BS ... just like DeSean being in a gang was not really true or a little exxagerated.  i'm not talking about Howie butchering all the next moves.  just the arrogance in these major moves putting the blame elsewhere on Doug and Wentz.  Right now our team stinks.  A good draft isn't going to change things in any major way, no need to root for bad moves there.  Just that I think like Lurie watching Andy... and we know Howie had the major hand in that... simply by the bad roster he put around him... more success from Doug and Wentz should help facilitate Howie leaving.  But we don't have to root against good moves here, not any of the little ones coming.  Hurts is already made, can he be the first running QB to do anything substantial ... other than fantasy stats?  Who knows.  Howie already made that move.  

I just don't see it. If Lurie can justify firing Doug and trading Wentz whilst keeping Howie then he'll justify why those guys didn't work here. He won't put the blame on Howie, they will just explain it away as one of those things that happens in the NFL.

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

He's not terrible with contracts. Noone makes the perfect contract. I have NP with him as the contract guy, like I said my prob is Howie the GM guy and how best to CYA than be those 2 guys rolled into one?

Most GMs do a decent job with contacts. How many teams are in true cap trouble every year? How many teams are over the cap every year at the deadline? Is he bad with contracts? No. Is that reason to keep him? No. 

14 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That was Foles in 2018 playoffs. Wentz was injured...again

LOL that's right. Sorry!