3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Really expected a better game,still was nice to watch 2 COHERENT teams play

Really? The Chiefs offense didn't remind you of the Eagles this year.   I thought Matt Pryor was playing for them.   Even the best today seem to struggle when no time to throw at all.  This game today offensively for the Chiefs, was the Eagles 2020 season. 

Similarity we can also take...from the Andy/ Doug style...  they don't like to help their OL much with extra blocking.  I think it was a key element from Tampa when they made that adjustment during the season having Gronk and others block more to help the OL, which pretty much gives that stud crew of WRs time to do their thing.  Can't run an offense having your QB run for his life... even if it's Mahomes.  

Yet Doug and Wentz take the hit for this.  Lol

Chiefs usually get some pretty predictable looks out of the defense. Makes it fairly easy for Mahomes to read. Always have that high S on Hill’s side. We remember from our days of having DJax. You know back when he actually played. That’s what that speed weapon does for you. Simplifies everything. Opens up plenty of area for the TE and Rb. Really helps the screen game also.

On ‎2‎/‎5‎/‎2021 at 3:22 PM, cunninghamtheman said:

49ers, Bears, Detroit, Washington, Philadelphia, Dallas, Ny Giants.... that’s 7 and I’m still just in the NFC

  Giants and 49ers are satisfied with their current QB's.

On ‎2‎/‎5‎/‎2021 at 3:22 PM, cunninghamtheman said:

49ers, Bears, Detroit, Washington, Philadelphia, Dallas, Ny Giants.... that’s 7 and I’m still just in the NFC

AFC you have Jacksonville drafting one a #1 so they are not interested. That leaves you Colts, NE, Jets and Denver. Possible raiders. Ne would never pursue Watson as they would not give away that much. Jets may draft a QB or draft help for Darnold to see if that helps him. Either Bears or Colts will trade for Wentz, so that leaves 8 or so...

7 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Really expected a better game,still was nice to watch 2 COHERENT teams play

  I am so glad I did not bet on this game. Perfect example of how Refs can determine the outcome of any game. Yes, most probably were fouls but so many other Offensive holding penalties against TB not called. That PI at the end of the half was total BS. Not only was that incidental contact, but the ball was like 10 yards over his head. How does that get called? There were PI calls ignored against TB. Would TB have won regardless? I have no idea. This game rides a great deal on emotion and momentum. I just would prefer the Refs stay out of the game when they can. Misconduct penalties only against KC when both were started by TB....most times those are ignored

   I lost interest at halftime. I already knew the outcome by then....

16 minutes ago, stine said:

  Giants and 49ers are satisfied with their current QB's.

Jones and Garrapolo don’t make anybody not desire Watson. Totally different ballparks.

Garrapolo has been injured most of the time. They can’t be satisfied with that. A top team that could be contending with a QB. Winning SBs with Watson. It would get scary!

Jones threw 11 TDs vs 10interceptions this season. 
 Watson threw 33 TDs and 7 interceptions this season.

   

Well another not so superbowl has come and gone.

Time to start (continue) the off season speculation.

Wentz DVOA was fifth worst in history

OFF TOPIC

Our minister got the Moderna vaccine Saturday and is in the hospital with an allergic reaction.

Please inform yourself about these vaccines before blindly following what you hear on the TV

The performance of the Bucs linebackers may have helped Parsons a lot. They dominated the game, and I imagine the Dolphins may grab him at 3 if they don't trade back. If they don't, it will be interesting to see what the Eagles do if he is there.

Stephen Holder on Twitter: "Here’s what I know: *The Colts are definitely in on Carson Wentz *Yes, the compensation the Eagles initially asked for is two first-rd picks-plus *Colts would never pay that *Colts are confident they can "fix” him *And, now, we wait." / Twitter

I think the proper price from the Colts is a first and a third. But how about a first, second and a third for Wentz+Dillard?

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Jones and Garrapolo don’t make anybody not desire Watson. Totally different ballparks.

  I SAID "Need", not desire. 49ers feel they don't Need a QB. Neither does the Giants. Would they desire Watson, sure. What we think is not necessarily what they do.....

39 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Stephen Holder on Twitter: "Here’s what I know: *The Colts are definitely in on Carson Wentz *Yes, the compensation the Eagles initially asked for is two first-rd picks-plus *Colts would never pay that *Colts are confident they can "fix” him *And, now, we wait." / Twitter

I think the proper price from the Colts is a first and a third. But how about a first, second and a third for Wentz+Dillard?

  Wonder what it ends up being. We hear all kinds of rumors, but I don't know for sure what has been discussed. If they end up getting 2 first round picks, they at least will have capital should they need to draft another QB next year (or this year if they feel they need to). I really do not know about this QB class. Are any really worth it? Maybe it would be better to get help at a bunch of other positions this year and see if Hurts is the answer or not. Once they know for sure react accordingly...

    

14 minutes ago, stine said:

 Maybe it would be better to get help at a bunch of other positions this year and see if Hurts is the answer or not. Once they know for sure react accordingly...

This is exactly what I would do. Hurts has gotten better every year, and if they trade Wentz, there is no harm in starting him next season to see what he can do. If he struggles, just draft a qb in 2022. 

5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Really? The Chiefs offense didn't remind you of the Eagles this year.   I thought Matt Pryor was playing for them.   Even the best today seem to struggle when no time to throw at all.  This game today offensively for the Chiefs, was the Eagles 2020 season. 

Similarity we can also take...from the Andy/ Doug style...  they don't like to help their OL much with extra blocking.  I think it was a key element from Tampa when they made that adjustment during the season having Gronk and others block more to help the OL, which pretty much gives that stud crew of WRs time to do their thing.  Can't run an offense having your QB run for his life... even if it's Mahomes.  

Yet Doug and Wentz take the hit for this.  Lol

That awful TB defense was in Mahomes face ALL night. And Brady did what I said he would be,brought CONSISTENCY to their offense as opposed to hot/cold Winston. Making the intelligent moves that WE can't like picking up Fournette, Brady and AB completed the team they needed

5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Really? The Chiefs offense didn't remind you of the Eagles this year.   I thought Matt Pryor was playing for them.   Even the best today seem to struggle when no time to throw at all.  This game today offensively for the Chiefs, was the Eagles 2020 season. 

Similarity we can also take...from the Andy/ Doug style...  they don't like to help their OL much with extra blocking.  I think it was a key element from Tampa when they made that adjustment during the season having Gronk and others block more to help the OL, which pretty much gives that stud crew of WRs time to do their thing.  Can't run an offense having your QB run for his life... even if it's Mahomes.  

Yet Doug and Wentz take the hit for this.  Lol

Except that "stud crew" of WR's played 2nd fiddle to 2 NICE TE's and that why I want Pitts/Geodert if Ertz is going away

1 hour ago, Asg 15 said:

OFF TOPIC

Our minister got the Moderna vaccine Saturday and is in the hospital with an allergic reaction.

Please inform yourself about these vaccines before blindly following what you hear on the TV

I'd rather get it and take Hydro. My daughter(and her hubby) just got through this without Anything(roughly 2 weeks) and I'm not letting the same people who can't protect me from bagged lettuce, inject my body. Nope

21 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

This is exactly what I would do. Hurts has gotten better every year, and if they trade Wentz, there is no harm in starting him next season to see what he can do. If he struggles, just draft a qb in 2022. 

That's another entire season wasted. That why I want a rook QB in here(or 2 as I have it),let them compete. At least you increase the odds of finding a QB. I don't see if we get a decent offer for Wentz how we AVOID taking a QB. You guys want all your eggs in one UNPROVEN basket Thats a recipe for another disaster year. I'm taking Wilson(if there) if not Pitts,then Trask, then shoring up the defense with Moehrig at S then Cox at LB,then adding Weaver to help our pass rush,then I may look at a guy like Grimes at WR(deep class no reason to reach for one).2 CB's with my last 2 picks,both should help us,then taking Mack at RB in FA. Then I will get Brady White(Memphis) as a UDFA QB. Now I have 3 rook QB's,let them compete for the job AND I have NO BIG QB contract for 3-4 years. I can buy alot of FA players with 34. million extra bucks a year for 3-4 years. If Hurts is the best of the 3,by all means start him,but I'm not just handing him the reins without a competition

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

That's another entire season wasted. That why I want a rook QB in here(or 2 as I have it),let them compete. At least you increase the odds of finding a QB. I don't see if we get a decent offer for Wentz how we AVOID taking a QB. You guys want all your eggs in one UNPROVEN basket Thats a recipe for another disaster year.

The downside is that if Hurts is good, you just wasted a first round pick on a qb who is never going to play, and that weakens you at another spot.

Imagine we get to the NFC championship game and can't stop the other team because the safety, corner or LB we should have drafted in the first round is carrying a clipboard on the sideline.

1 hour ago, stine said:

  I SAID "Need", not desire. 49ers feel they don't Need a QB. Neither does the Giants. Would they desire Watson, sure. What we think is not necessarily what they do.....

I believe the 49ers think ALL they are missing is a QB. They are ready to make a run.

2 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

The downside is that if Hurts is good, you just wasted a first round pick on a qb who is never going to play, and that weakens you at another spot.

Imagine we get to the NFC championship game and can't stop the other team because the safety, corner or LB we should have drafted in the first round is carrying a clipboard on the sideline.

Then you trade them

25 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

That awful TB defense was in Mahomes face ALL night. And Brady did what I said he would be,brought CONSISTENCY to their offense as opposed to hot/cold Winston. Making the intelligent moves that WE can't like picking up Fournette, Brady and AB completed the team they needed

Those guys wanted to go to TB.

18 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

The downside is that if Hurts is good, you just wasted a first round pick on a qb who is never going to play, and that weakens you at another spot.

Imagine we get to the NFC championship game and can't stop the other team because the safety, corner or LB we should have drafted in the first round is carrying a clipboard on the sideline.

And BTW we still would need a BU for him anyway right?

16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Those guys wanted to go to TB.

Wonder why lol. After the SB guys wanted to come here too,but we made sure to kill that idea. Now noone wants to come here