1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

 

No

Two firsts, a third, Wentz and Ertz for Watson?

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I mean our OL seems pretty set 

LT- Mailata/DillRd 

LG-Semaulo

C-Kelce 

RG-Brooks 

RT-Lane 

backups.
BLT-Mailata/Dillard- whoever loses the battle 

BG- Herbig should be the top guy either side 

BRT-Driscoll 

BC-Jergia 

like what we got on the OL 

Barring injuries and Kelce not retiring this is one of the top 3 OLs in the NFL

16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Two firsts, a third, Wentz and Ertz for Watson?

No

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not even if that Oline guy was ten spots higher on your Big Board?

If we need a LB more,I take the LB. rank lists are just opinions just like ours

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I believe Grimes goes  top 100

IDK lots of WR's in this draft, so take the top guys and "how many more WR's does a team need?" Noones going to draft 5 WR's. They will be after Toney first

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m just saying...we admitted to be a rebuilding team. Should we just BPA this draft down the line?

I'm looking for starters not BU's or "projects" in those early rounds. If you want the O line guy and you are starting him(no questions asked) then fine

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Two firsts, a third, Wentz and Ertz for Watson?

Ham let me ask you why Watson wants out of Houston?

1 hour ago, jsb235 said:

Tyler Steege on Twitter: "“The #Eagles WRs are getting together with Jalen Hurts next week... seems like they have it in their head that they’re going to train with the starting quarterback.” - @ConorMylesNFL with a nugget on the latest @EaglesBrawl episode. 🌾👀🌾" / Twitter

Seems like they know something that we don't.

LOL If Wentz gets traded who else would they train with?

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts really has a great connection with this receiving corps. Ward really talked about their connection.  Reagor seemed to instantly back Hurts. Watkins really broke out at the end there with him. I think the RBs also. Sanders and Scott know it takes pressure off them by adding an extra dynamic. Need to lock in the duel threat of the RBs also. Need Sanders to pick it up in the passing game. Need Scott to pick it up in the rushing game.

I hope we can find better WR's than Ward. I like him and Fulgham, nice BU WR's so talking about "connections" before we know who's on our roster doesn't mean alot IMO. I'm looking at add a RB into this mix even if it's a UDFA. I like Boyd. May not even need a draft pick. If I want a higher round RB I look at Gainwell and I still like 93's idea of snagging Mack in FA

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If we need a LB more,I take the LB. rank lists are just opinions just like ours

I’m exactly talking about ours....our Big Board

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK lots of WR's in this draft, so take the top guys and "how many more WR's does a team need?" Noones going to draft 5 WR's. They will be after Toney first

After Toney....in the first....

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I hope we can find better WR's than Ward. I like him and Fulgham, nice BU WR's so talking about "connections" before we know who's on our roster doesn't mean alot IMO. I'm looking at add a RB into this mix even if it's a UDFA. I like Boyd. May not even need a draft pick. If I want a higher round RB I look at Gainwell and I still like 93's idea of snagging Mack in FA

Ward is a quality reliable receiver. Watkins got unleashed to end the season with Hurts. Reagor immediately took Hurts back. Fulgham we don’t know what his limits are. He bust on to the scene. Teams got the book on him....maybe a bit. Can he adjust and overcome his biggest weakness? Looked potentially like that Diamond in the rough. Definitely that X

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m exactly talking about ours....our Big Board

Once again, I am looking for starters not BU's with my top 3 picks. If your O line guy starts day 1 take him 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ward is a quality reliable receiver. Watkins got unleashed to end the season with Hurts. Reagor immediately took Hurts back. Fulgham we don’t know what his limits are. He bust on to the scene. Teams got the book on him....maybe a bit. Can he adjust and overcome his biggest weakness? Looked potentially like that Diamond in the rough. Definitely that X

Ward-Yeah he is a great BU-already proven that. Are teams lining up to give us draft picks for him? Fulgham-ditto nice BU guy to have. We need a #1 WR(and arguably a number 2). Maybe Regor becomes our #1, just don't see that/too early to know. #2 is up for grabs, #1 may be also. Of course Reagor will take Hurts back because playing with Ped/Wentz got him only minimal targets. No stats if you aren't targeted. So Jury still out for me on Reagor. Watkins- IDK on/off the PS. I would lean your way if he was given a roster spot,but don't see that either. You're grasping at straws if you think we have a duo of Diggs and Cooper quality. I guess I just refuse to strive for mediocre

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m exactly talking about ours....our Big Board

After Toney....in the first....

Great WR class,however alot of teams have their WR's in place. I think you will be surprised how many good WR's fall in this draft, once the top guys are gone because like I said noone is going to draft 5 WR's and that's why on my personal mock,I chose to wait on WR in lieu of your suggestion of Pitts. Doesn't have to be Grimes,still I am in no hurry to reach on a WR. I we want a top; WR at 6, I would be fine with that choice ,but I have no clue with the Wentz drama, what we will do. For me it depends on the deal we get for Wentz and if we're just going to hand the keys blindly over to a guy with 4 games under his belt with no competition, or if we really want to find the right QB. perhaps they already feel Hurts is the guy,but by now you know how I feel about the "no competition" BS. Maybe drafting Hurts was the problem with Wentz all along,because we handed him the keys too and this looks like a repeat.

https://clemsontigers.com/sports/football/roster/amari-rodgers/  I can't ignore this guy either and as usual(it happens every year), NOBODY will be there when we pick 🙄

 

7 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts really has a great connection with this receiving corps. Ward really talked about their connection.  Reagor seemed to instantly back Hurts. Watkins really broke out at the end there with him. I think the RBs also. Sanders and Scott know it takes pressure off them by adding an extra dynamic. Need to lock in the duel threat of the RBs also. Need Sanders to pick it up in the passing game. Need Scott to pick it up in the rushing game.

Need a lot dude.  A lot.   Gotta be able to score in 2nd half of games and get your WRs involved.    Whatever it " seemed" it wasn't good, neither in points or in individual stats for the WRs.  They have a lot of work to do... to get to adequate level.  

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ward is a quality reliable receiver. Watkins got unleashed to end the season with Hurts. Reagor immediately took Hurts back. Fulgham we don’t know what his limits are. He bust on to the scene. Teams got the book on him....maybe a bit. Can he adjust and overcome his biggest weakness? Looked potentially like that Diamond in the rough. Definitely that X

Watkins was unleashed...  a screen pass where AZ had 3 guys take the wrong gap accounted for his only score in 4 games.   Otherwise his totals are 6 catches 74 yards and no scores in 4 games....    our bar is really set low for " unleashed "   

Even counting the screen...7 catches for 106 yards and 1 TD in 4 games is low bar.    

Reagor had 11 catches 140 yards in 4 games.  

Fulgham 5 catches for 72 yards

Ward  9 catches, 68 yards

4 games , those 3 had a combined 25 catches 280 yards.   3 guys combined for 6.25 catches and 70 yards per game.      Unleashed????

 Hightower had ZERO 

DeSean 1 catch.  

Alshon 4 catches 100 yards

JJAW 2 catches 40 yards

Combined WRs in 4 games... Reagor, Ward, Fulgham, Watkins, Hightower, JJAW, DeSean, Alshon... 8 WRs...

8 guys = 39 catches for 601 yards. In 4 games.    3 of the plays... 81 yard to DeSean, and a screen each to Ward and Reagor ... combined for 152 of the yards and 2 of the 5 TDs

This is 4 whole games of total WR play from 8 guys combined.  Long long way to go.  They better stay quarantined for 4 or 5 months and get that work in. 

 

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

 may be also. Of course Reagor will take Hurts back because playing with Ped/Wentz got him only minimal targets. 

In the last 4 games... Reagor had 11 catches 140 yards no TDs

In the worst 4 game stretch from Wentz.. Dallas, NYG, Cleveland and Seattle...   Reagor had 14 catches 126 yards and a TD.    More catches, more TDs...and if they didn't leave him alone on the one screen, he would have had more yards.   This is during a pathetic stretch by Wentz, compared to his totals under his buddy Mr Intangibles.  

On 2/9/2021 at 7:04 PM, time2rock said:

All good points, no doubt.  There is so much dysfunction with this team right now ... it’s hard to pinpoint any one thing as being the main culprit for Wentz’s animosity (it could very well be collective of everything).  

Here is a thought that nobody wants to say out loud,  but I think is obvious. 

You have Reagor, Watkins, Hightower,  Ward and Fulgham.  5 guys 25 and under, with their cultural background. 

You put them in a locker room,  do they gravitate toward the 28 year old married dude from North Dakota that looks like Wentz.... or a 22 year old dude like Hurts?

Another question.  How many QBs come into the league fitting Hurts " social profile" , drafted early...are there to be " backups"   ???

You see where I'm getting at, pretty much an obvious thing if you bring in 3 rookie WRs and add them to an already young group,  wouldn't it be common sense Hurts fits in better socially with those guys?   Things that the GM needed to realize prior to making the selection... on top of the completely different style of offense needed for both.   It's not that another QB was brought in via high draft pick.  It's the exact profile of the QB and the fit if the correct roster ( which in addition to the #1 reason for lack of success of not being very good)  was not putting Wentz in a good spot.  Bad roster = less chance to succeed.  Lack of success = back up being more popular.   Then you add in the common sense social/ cultural backgrounds.   Obvious bad situation.  Especially when dude fitting Wentz profile was "paid" after being drafted #2... and guy like Hurts was passed on by every team in the league and missed out on $$.   Not hard to see where the path was leading.  Set the one guy up for failure... and boom, can of worms opened.     Put a good roster around the guy, then never start down this path where any idiot could see natural gravitation towards the 2nd guy. 

It's a situation Howie created and has to go all in now.  If Hurts does not end up having more success than Wentz, Lurie should give Howie the boot.  Doug and Wentz were tied together,  Howie and Hurts are more so.   If we draft a QB early, Howie is admitting he was wrong.  But the spin and the excitement of the draft always gets the simpleminded Eagles fan off of looking at the big picture mistakes made by the GM... they are masters of PR. 

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Watkins was unleashed...  a screen pass where AZ had 3 guys take the wrong gap accounted for his only score in 4 games.   Otherwise his totals are 6 catches 74 yards and no scores in 4 games....    our bar is really set low for " unleashed "   

Even counting the screen...7 catches for 106 yards and 1 TD in 4 games is low bar.    

Reagor had 11 catches 140 yards in 4 games.  

Fulgham 5 catches for 72 yards

Ward  9 catches, 68 yards

4 games , those 3 had a combined 25 catches 280 yards.   3 guys combined for 6.25 catches and 70 yards per game.      Unleashed????

 Hightower had ZERO 

DeSean 1 catch.  

Alshon 4 catches 100 yards

JJAW 2 catches 40 yards

Combined WRs in 4 games... Reagor, Ward, Fulgham, Watkins, Hightower, JJAW, DeSean, Alshon... 8 WRs...

8 guys = 39 catches for 601 yards. In 4 games.    3 of the plays... 81 yard to DeSean, and a screen each to Ward and Reagor ... combined for 152 of the yards and 2 of the 5 TDs

This is 4 whole games of total WR play from 8 guys combined.  Long long way to go.  They better stay quarantined for 4 or 5 months and get that work in. 

 

You can’t really count Tankgame. So really those stats are from three games. One of which was against arguably the best defense in the league. But let’s see what happens when we get some blocking going up front. Over 330 yards with a bad Oline in two of the three games.

GBNC- Did you hold that PURA Stock you bought a while back? Reason I am asking is it tripled in the past week. I own 150,000 shares and was in the red for the longest time. Now in the black and hoping the trend continues up....

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

 

I don't get excited over ACC receivers. Too many weak teams that wind up being stat stuffers for the better players.

I should clarify that i don't get excited based on their stats. 

If there is a large group of WR's in this draft class. seems to me that drafting one in the first round is not the thing to do. We would be much better served taking either Parsons or a CB, no?

Maybe wait until Day 2 or 3 for a WR? Plus, the way we keep swinging and missing on WR's I would much rather we grab a stud for the defense. So many holes there IMO....

  If Chicago gives us their 1st round pick, you can take Parsons and a CB round 1. WR round 2. I would think that really changes the look of this team....

I’m expecting ODell Beckham to get traded soon

31 minutes ago, stine said:

If there is a large group of WR's in this draft class. seems to me that drafting one in the first round is not the thing to do. We would be much better served taking either Parsons or a CB, no?

Maybe wait until Day 2 or 3 for a WR? Plus, the way we keep swinging and missing on WR's I would much rather we grab a stud for the defense. So many holes there IMO....

  If Chicago gives us their 1st round pick, you can take Parsons and a CB round 1. WR round 2. I would think that really changes the look of this team....

The Missouri LB looks incredible! He could be there at our second pick. LSU LB could be there in the third round. So that stuff can be worked both ways. Not much for TE. So your logic would work for taking Pitts at six.

But I wouldn’t pass on a Julio Jones because there are some decent selections possibly at the position in the third round.