2 hours ago, stine said:

  We would gain a 3rd in compensation so would not pay to get anything less.

What would it be a 2023...I’ll say late fourth?

35 minutes ago, stine said:

plus an additional 10 mil against the cap...?

But it can be spread out I believe over two seasons. Less than ideal but....it would make the hit this season less.

15 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Wentz ego should be put in check....at least a little...considering nobody will even trade for him. Stafford had a third of the league involved. He isn’t some HOF guy. He’s also at the end of his career.

Ham.  I think you miss the point.  Wentz would leave this dumpster fire.. his trade value is irrelevant...it's what his next team is giving up... better for him the less it is.  You are too focused on ego..  I think he just wants to play with NFL level players again.  I'm sure in his mind ,he thinks that is the difference.   Let's see it play out..  as we will with Mr. Intangible 

45 minutes ago, stine said:

Watt, Watt & Watt.... A law firm...

That’s a lot of Watt-age!

40 minutes ago, stine said:

Reading up on the Wentz trade. Colts mentioned they would need additional players to get closer to the Eagles demands. Heck, Toss in Ertz to grab a 1, a 2 and a 3!

 

  Done deal.

 

They need a LT

15 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Lmao 😂 Sure called performing that simple winning quells a ton. 
On top of that numerous player supported Wentz most of the leaders of the team. If Wentz lost anyone maybe some of the younger guys that don’t really matter 

The younger guys are all the WRs.  Those are guys that would prefer a QB of Hurts background than a dude like Wentz.  Not hard to see.   This I'd where you and I differ.  These leaders, I don't see here much longer. That group is going away. The young guys are what matters now.  It's rebuild and basement dwelling for a while.  Not a mix for Wentz and these guys.  They will need the intangibles of Hurts during these tough losing times.  

15 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You think the guy with the supersized ego doesn’t think the compensation matters? Ughh....ok

Absolutely.  .It matters to Howie.

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yeah... if we had...uhhhh playmakers

We have good young investment in skill players. Lead by Sanders! Scott has shown some shifty ness and versatility. Goedert I would say is a reliable weapon. Maybe not the YAC king. Ward I’d say the same. Reliable part of a rotation but not the YAC guy. JJAW hasn’t shown much there but the new coach might find ways for him. Hightower not as sure about him on YAC.  Fulgham can make some plays and break some tackles. Watkins looks like a playmaker. Just get the ball in his hands...he’s got YAC written all over him. Reagor I expect a big season from. YAC-a-thon. 
   Then I expect a playmaker drafted added into this.

16 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Mailata, Goedert, Sanders, Dick Rod, DJax were out for Tankgame. Plenty of defensive stars didn’t suit up either. Quez had a rib injury in the week 16 game. Reagor suffered a concussion.

Did the guys I mentioned get stats in the tank game?  Again, this was about them being " unleashed " they got stats, I counted them.  If we count just 3 games, then we have to take away the stats from the 4th game. That's how it works. 

46 minutes ago, stine said:

plus an additional 10 mil against the cap...?

I also think Wentz could change that part of his contract to move it back to facilitate a trade. If he wants out.

14 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Lol.  No shot from Colts perspective.  Ertz has good shot at being released.  Similar to JJ Watt

  Ertz does not relieve the Eagles 17,500,500 cap space if released. He has value as a trade option and I highly doubt the Eagles let him walk. Plus Whomever gets Wentz knows the value Ertz would add. Not to have to bid on him as a FA is a plus. I say a very good shot from Colts perspective.

8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The younger guys are all the WRs

Yet those younger WRs are only 3 Hightower, Reagor and Watkins. 
 

I don’t think Fulgham or Ward  are part of that young group neither is Geodart or Sanders. 

15 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Lmao the same way I seen TB as a SB contender it isn’t hard to see buddy.  I’d be happy if we were bad enough that in a couple years we can draft a QB high and Howie gets fired I just don’t see that as the outcome if we go with hurts.

I see us being that 8-8 to 10-6 teams basically Dallas with Jason Garrett 

Tampa stepped up with vets at the end of the year, a couple of coaching tweaks.  Our team stinks.  It's hard for you to see it, because in your lifetime...the uniform was enough to win some games. Very few bad seasons and recovery was quick because each regime left something for the next one. Right now our team is bad, with all its best players being over 30.  Nobody is on a 2nd contract... It can stay disaster for a while without leaders in prime ages.  The other thing, the teams in the division all have the same promise,  better talent, slightly more experienced, key guys coming back and obvious specific holes to target.  It's a lot of uphill work to get to mediocre.  Which we know the owner does not like.  It's a step or 2 below " bronze medal of making playoffs and winning one game.

3 minutes ago, stine said:

  Ertz does not relieve the Eagles 17,500,500 cap space if released. He has value as a trade option and I highly doubt the Eagles let him walk. Plus Whomever gets Wentz knows the value Ertz would add. Not to have to bid on him as a FA is a plus. I say a very good shot from Colts perspective.

If we are getting a 4th comp pick by keeping him. The goal would be getting a 2021 fourth in trade.

2 hours ago, jsb235 said:

Houston traded the 3 pick to the Dolphins ages ago.

LOL yeah looked at an old sheet lmao(senior moment)

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Yet those younger WRs are only 3 Hightower, Reagor and Watkins. 
 

I don’t think Fulgham or Ward  are part of that young group neither is Geodart or Sanders. 

They are young too.  Sanders tweeted 4 minutes after Shefter tweeted a Wentz trade was close... " we going to the Superbowl soon"  the young guys are all about Hurts.  No doubt here.

2 hours ago, time2rock said:

They have to move Ertz.  He is in the final year of his deal and surely wouldn't be here past the upcoming season, so may as well move him and get something in return for him now rather than walking at the end of the season and getting nothing.  Plus moving him frees up $4.7M in much needed cap space.  

I know,but for me that decides who my #1 draft target is and that deal has not happened yet

6 minutes ago, stine said:

  Ertz does not relieve the Eagles 17,500,500 cap space if released. He has value as a trade option and I highly doubt the Eagles let him walk. Plus Whomever gets Wentz knows the value Ertz would add. Not to have to bid on him as a FA is a plus. I say a very good shot from Colts perspective.

There is no extra cap relief if traded or released via Ertz.  No shot the Colts pay that price.   Ertz may land us a 5th round pick though.  But good shot he is released because the Eagles need to unload the contract by the start of the league year. No time to negotiate 

1 hour ago, stine said:

Watt, Watt & Watt.... A law firm...

I use Dewey, Cheatham and Howe those were my divorce lawyers and thats what they did lol(still worth every damn penny)

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What if we kept Wentz for the draft...and took a QB at six. Only six QBs to think about in this draft. Gotta assume two go before six....at least. See how this is all lining up the QB market?  We just upped the market for Wentz.

IDK buddy. If I'm sitting at 10-12 Im looking at pay out a HUGE sum for Wentz,or grabbing the 4th QB off the board CHEAP. After Wentz crapping his own bed,Im going with the rook

24 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s a lot of Watt-age!

They need a LT

Dillard

10 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

They are young too.  Sanders tweeted 4 minutes after Shefter tweeted a Wentz trade was close... " we going to the Superbowl soon"  the young guys are all about Hurts.  No doubt here.

And Miles also came out in support of Wentz when he got benched. Not missing the point what you want this man to tweet welp we going to suck the next decade Eagles fans lol

I don’t think the locker room is all that divided not like the media is trying to portray it to be. 
 
Think sure maybe the younger WRs guys like Reagor, Hightower etc. favor the guy there age from the same class who they hang out with but at the end of the day if do t think they will care if Wentz stayed the starter and produced. 

I am looking at things 2 ways. Hurts could kill it. If he does Howie stays,if he sucks donkey balls, Howie may go away Pick your poison. The last option is Hurts sucks and Lurie keeps howie(again). This may not be a howie issue as mush as a "no balls" Lurie issue. I still say he has nude pics of Lurie from a FL massage parlor

23 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

It can stay disaster for a while without leaders in prime ages.  The other thing, the teams in the division all have the same promise,  better talent, slightly more experienced, key guys coming back and obvious specific holes to target.  It's a lot of uphill work to get to mediocre.  Which we know the owner does not like.  It's a step or 2 below " bronze medal of making playoffs and winning one game.

Could be again it’s were we differ.

Teams in our division none have a QB possibly Cowboys depending on Dak.

OL meh honestly think Eagles are in the best spot and that’s even if we lose Kelce/Brooks/Lane in the next two years. 

WRs we are behind but Washington/NY both still have seriously lack here as well

TE- Geodart easily the best in the East 

D-NY has no serious building blocks to speak of, Dallas in a similar hole. Washington really the only team built here and they have serious holes at LB and secondary.

So yea the bronze standard of winning east i don’t see as that unlikely like you seem to think but again I’d much rather have us end up bad and blow up to do a serious rebuild over mediocrity Hurts 

46 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I use Dewey, Cheatham and Howe those were my divorce lawyers and thats what they did lol(still worth every damn penny)

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