15 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

I don't think they will spend any money on guard when Pryor seems to be okay and they have some prospects in Opeta, Herbig and Driscoll. The biggest difference between Pryor and Brooks is that Pryor can't get out and block in space like Brooks could, but as far as keeping Wentz safe there isn't a huge dropoff.

I was going along with you until the end. Brooks is arguably the best G in the game. Pryor has barely ever played. Seems like a huge dropoff to me for sure. And I like Pryor.

12 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I was going along with you until the end. Brooks is arguably the best G in the game. Pryor has barely ever played. Seems like a huge dropoff to me for sure. And I like Pryor.

Agreed. The only bright spot here is he's playing between two all pros. They might slap him around if he screws up too much.

2 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Agreed. The only bright spot here is he's playing between two all pros. They might slap him around if he screws up too much.

I think his performance getting thrown into the fire was highly encouraging, and he should only get better as he gains more experience. And they can always give him help with Kelce if he struggles too much. But if you compare his tape to say, Seumalo when he first started, they are night and day. Pryor is much more advanced.

11 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

I think his performance getting thrown into the fire was highly encouraging, and he should only get better as he gains more experience. And they can always give him help with Kelce if he struggles too much. But if you compare his tape to say, Seumalo when he first started, they are night and day. Pryor is much more advanced.

My only problem with Pryor  is him jumping the snap count. That could have been rookie nerves. 

25 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Agreed. The only bright spot here is he's playing between two all pros. They might slap him around if he screws up too much.

Does Dillard, Seumalo and Pryor give you the feeling of a dominating Oline? Even reliable? That’s 3 out of 5 of our starting Oline.

I’m optimistic about all three. But even saying that makes me feel a bit homerish.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Does Dillard, Seumalo and Pryor give you the feeling of a dominating Oline? Even reliable? That’s 3 out of 5 of our starting Oline.

Ya know we all knew it was gonna happen sooner or later. IMO the reports about the Eagles FO being disappointed with Dillard were BS. If they weren't they would have made a move at that position. Seu really came on toward the end of the year. Pryor remains a work in progress.

I don't think it's homerish. There's a lot of upside here. And we have the right O line coach to bring it out.

Or just maybe i'm homerish too. 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m optimistic about all three. But even saying that makes me feel a bit homerish.

If you look at other starting guards in the division, Connor Williams is a liability in Dallas, Will Hernandez is entering bust territory in NY and I have no idea who Washington is going to start opposite of Scherff, who himself has been injured the last two years.

Seumalo is the fourth best guard in the division, behind Martin, Zeitler and Scherff (who are among the highest paid in the NFL), and Pryor is probably fifth right now. We don't know how much better Pryor can get with reps, but based on what he showed last year, I would rather have him than any of the starters at the other teams in the division.

As far as Dillard, he is going to be fine. His problem last year was that he was getting overpowered, and that's the easiest problem to solve. And according to Brooks, he is already working on it.

The line will be fine. It was fine the last two years despite having a lot of injuries. And I trust that the team is developing guys who can step in and play this year. 

12 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

If we can get an elite player At Adams age I say go for it but just me... As for Thuney don’t see it sure would address Brooks this year but what happens next year when Brooks is healthy not only are you giving up picks for him you have to invest money to keep him... Image Thuney going to command somewhere in the top G money range as well to extend 

I'm in on Adams ... Just don't like him being a Cow$itch lover... Would strongly reinforce our DB and help nullify the perceived Offensive advantage the Gals have with their addition of Lamb. Adams is an above average talent and Leader it would soften the loss of Jenkins.  Everyone worried about Cap next ...just hope we can have a Safe season and our players and their families survive Coronavirus. Don't get it twisted I want football.... NOT at the price of human life. I can wait a year for a vaccine... GO EAGLES.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Does Dillard, Seumalo and Pryor give you the feeling of a dominating Oline? Even reliable? That’s 3 out of 5 of our starting Oline.

Those some BIG Athletic kids that have been in the System for a few seasons. One thing last year proved...we need to find out what we have in these young players. Father Time catches up with all. Kelce, Lane guys are getting up there. I think these guys will do he job.

16 minutes ago, Trini said:

Those some BIG Athletic kids that have been in the System for a few seasons. One thing last year proved...we need to find out what we have in these young players. Father Time catches up with all. Kelce, Lane guys are getting up there. I think these guys will do he job.

Finding out what you have at other positions doesn’t get your Franchise QB killed.

42 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Finding out what you have at other positions doesn’t get your Franchise QB killed.

Marty M is here from the Ravens....the orchestrator of the Ravens O... We drafted a Option QB during a Pandemic. Somehow I just suspect a Non Traditional Offense from Doug this season ... We know, without Protection...IT AIN'T happening. I love those BIG , ATHLETIC kids we got. Gotta protect the QB.

12 minutes ago, Trini said:

Marty M is here from the Ravens....the orchestrator of the Ravens O... We drafted a Option QB during a Pandemic. Somehow I just suspect a Non Traditional Offense from Doug this season ... We know, without Protection...IT AIN'T happening. I love those BIG , ATHLETIC kids we got. Gotta protect the QB.

But didn’t the Ravens O really take off last year after they let MM go? 

17 hours ago, jsb235 said:

I don't think they will spend any money on guard when Pryor seems to be okay and they have some prospects in Opeta, Herbig and Driscoll. The biggest difference between Pryor and Brooks is that Pryor can't get out and block in space like Brooks could, but as far as keeping Wentz safe there isn't a huge dropoff.

Yeah,looking ahead to next year,we will have cap issues,so I think we are done spending.A player for player is always possible if no money is involved

On 6/25/2020 at 4:48 PM, cunninghamtheman said:

     Holyfield has issues. I’m not much of a fan of his. 
     Warren has made everybody look bad tackling. That was my point. I believe Bradley, our fifth round pick, is ahead of Taylor, our third round pick....right now. Taylor is a smart kid who loves football and is the better overall prospect, based on potential. I think Flajole believes he  can coach him up with big upside, fairly quickly. But he isn’t ready yet. Bradley seems limited. Doesn’t have huge upside but could potentially contribute his rookie season. Pretty weird an unusual situation. But I have the fifth rounder as the better option year one, over the third rounder. Not sure how it all plays out though. How much do they allow our third rounder to make mistakes and grow....ON THE FIELD...his rookie season?
  

I had Corbin as my UDFA RB choice. After watching Warren,I still prefer Corbin,but I am ok with Warren. The difference for me(and why I prefer Corbin) was the teams they both faced. Corbin ran against the top D's.No guarantee that equates to the NFL transition,so we will see what Warren brings in

17 hours ago, jsb235 said:

I think his performance getting thrown into the fire was highly encouraging, and he should only get better as he gains more experience. And they can always give him help with Kelce if he struggles too much. But if you compare his tape to say, Seumalo when he first started, they are night and day. Pryor is much more advanced.

We will need solid G's for next year.We all know Kelce's days are numbered,we just don't know when he hangs it up and you need solid G's around a rook C until they get used to the guys around them. That to me(and to 93's point) tells me if we need to invest(aka spend money) at G,we need to get it done.We can't have any blips when we start a rook C(I assume we will start a rook or someone here now but has no live game snaps).new C would benefit from both G's being capable of covering him for a time

15 hours ago, jsb235 said:

If you look at other starting guards in the division, Connor Williams is a liability in Dallas, Will Hernandez is entering bust territory in NY and I have no idea who Washington is going to start opposite of Scherff, who himself has been injured the last two years.

Seumalo is the fourth best guard in the division, behind Martin, Zeitler and Scherff (who are among the highest paid in the NFL), and Pryor is probably fifth right now. We don't know how much better Pryor can get with reps, but based on what he showed last year, I would rather have him than any of the starters at the other teams in the division.

As far as Dillard, he is going to be fine. His problem last year was that he was getting overpowered, and that's the easiest problem to solve. And according to Brooks, he is already working on it.

The line will be fine. It was fine the last two years despite having a lot of injuries. And I trust that the team is developing guys who can step in and play this year. 

Dillard goes out we are in trouble.I will miss JP's reliability until Dillard can prove himself.Like Sproles(who I reco'd we pick up as a coach) I would love to see JP in our line coaching system,if noone takes a chance on him,bring him in as a BU,although I imagine even as a bu he would want serious loot.Meantime,I would be working on Wentz's rollout to the right abilities lol.Gotta save the franchise QB.I think this may be a reason we got a QB in 2,if Dillard cant protect the left side,we have a QB who can mince them up by rolling out.We seem to COA pretty well.Although I was shocked at the 2 pick,I now see things and reasons we did it

12 hours ago, Trini said:

Marty M is here from the Ravens....the orchestrator of the Ravens O... We drafted a Option QB during a Pandemic. Somehow I just suspect a Non Traditional Offense from Doug this season ... We know, without Protection...IT AIN'T happening. I love those BIG , ATHLETIC kids we got. Gotta protect the QB.

Hmmm,but was he not responsible for jackson coming on so strong so fast? They had zero issues losing Flacco(even as a bu).Seems to me the confidence was there and someone was responsible for that

NC, we already brought Sproles on board the staff

57 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hmmm,but was he not responsible for jackson coming on so strong so fast? They had zero issues losing Flacco(even as a bu).Seems to me the confidence was there and someone was responsible for that

They were already over Flacco

I know Lane is 30 years old now and before that would be considered old and near the end of his career but OL nowadays easily till 35-36 at a high level.... 

 

28 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I know Lane is 30 years old now and before that would be considered old and near the end of his career but OL nowadays easily till 35-36 at a high level.... 

 

The team is committed to him for a while, so he's not going anywhere.

5 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

The team is committed to him for a while, so he's not going anywhere.

Of course but again my point was that not expecting much drop off from him if any.... Not that long ago we would be saying Lane was toward the end of his career at 30....Just crazy to think how players careers have extended watching QBs playing into there 40s watching a guy like AP still going and not playing at a bad level either, OL guys like JP at 38 etc.

I don't see us spending any big money.   No cap space for next year... and the virus is an unknown here.   Why spend if we don't have a season this year?  Why spend if the cap goes down next year?   Why spend when you made a lot of moves in the secondary and already have kept a bunch of extra OL?    We've been saving pennies all offseason ... don't see that changing now.  Perhaps and in season trade if it looks like a good deal is there that might help us get over the top.   Don't see it now.  

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

NC, we already brought Sproles on board the staff

Thats what I SAID,would like to see JP added when he is done like we did with Sproles.I was saying to hire Sproles long before we actually did