1 hour ago, PoconoDon said:

There's a lot of work and growth to do on offense, that's for sure.

I'm not convinced they all make it though. I have serious reservations about JJAW and I have some concerns about Dillard's strength and sustainable physicality. If he's been working on strength, Pryor should be OK at RG. Sometimes WR's take a couple years to hit their stride so, they're a mystery right now. I hope they learn quick and show enough in their rookie year to instill confidence going forward. Reagor should do that. The others? Have to wait and see I suppose.

I feel real good about Wentz, Sanders, both TE's, and D-Jax (if healthy). I want to see Seumalo improve a lot. Kelce and Lane are still great so if LG is good to go, helping Dillard if needed won't be a big deal.  

Seriously,I really don't care about Jjaw at all.We coddled the ever injured Hollins for years.Let's not do that BS again.Either he cuts it NOW,or he GETS cut.Can't expect stardom from him,but he needs to show us why we drafted him where we did. Show me a SOLID,productive stat line. It's a thin line between development and wasting time.We need to know the difference

33 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMAO,ok tell me where in the world there is no covid to expand to? You want to invest billions into London,China mexico City with 15 fans that show? Doubtful.I think the NFL is in "hang on " mode like many businesses.As for Goodell,he can KMA and I won;t be buying gear this year.After working decades to end segregation,they are pushing us into segregation-.pathetic.I will kneel for the new "anthem" and stand for the real one.if we are not ALL Americans,243 years of history means ZIP

If the NFL allows kneeling and plays a "Black National Anthem" I'm stuffing everything I ever bought Eagles wise and sending it back to the NovaCare Complex.

There is ONE national anthem and i'm not gonna stand for a bunch of spoiled brats running everything down that my family and I sacrificed to preserve.

 

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Seriously,I really don't care about Jjaw at all.We coddled the ever injured Hollins for years.Let's not do that BS again.Either he cuts it NOW,or he GETS cut.Can't expect stardom from him,but he needs to show us why we drafted him where we did. Show me a SOLID,productive stat line. It's a thin line between development and wasting time.We need to know the difference

Not sure where to draw that line on JJAW. PAC players come in late to TC. So they are at a disadvantage their rookie seasons. Then we tried to teach him multiple positions. The good part about that is maybe a lesson was learned there that will benefit our rookies this year. The main thing is we fired our WR coach. Looked like Groh took a more hands on approach at the end of the year with the receivers. That’s several excuses for JJAW....but they are legit excuses. So I’m not holding much against him to this point. But now we have more issues ahead. What kind of TC will he get to improve? Will there be any preseason games to improve? Really difficult position JJAW has been put in. I wouldn’t give up on him this season though. We have a good quality receiving coach now. But he has to get time to work on him.

With the way the numbers have been skyrocketing with this virus I just can’t see how they can play football. Doesn’t seem very realistic at this point.

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not sure where to draw that line on JJAW. PAC players come in late to TC. So they are at a disadvantage their rookie seasons. Then we tried to teach him multiple positions. The good part about that is maybe a lesson was learned there that will benefit our rookies this year. The main thing is we fired our WR coach. Looked like Groh took a more hands on approach at the end of the year with the receivers. That’s several excuses for JJAW....but they are legit excuses. So I’m not holding much against him to this point. But now we have more issues ahead. What kind of TC will he get to improve? Will there be any preseason games to improve? Really difficult position JJAW has been put in. I wouldn’t give up on him this season though. We have a good quality receiving coach now. But he has to get time to work on him.

His big "thing" was his block out ability. I did not see it.He had that coming in(and a big reason we drafted him).We gave Hollins excuses too,MS 2-excuses.You gotta know when you are wasting your time.I am not against him, nor giving up,but he needs to show me a reason to stay here.OK rookie year,and he wasn't ready to play the big dogs.I get that,so now show us why you are special or if you are just another run of the mill guy we drafted too high

More testing, of course the numbers are going to go up. Noone mentions the 99.2% survival rate.At this point Goodell has ruined football for me.I have no clue if I will even watch or not and I'm sorry I renewed my fantasy league.If I watch at ALL,I may watch the 4th quarter if I am really bored,or lets just have segregated leagues since we apparently accomplished nothing the last 243 years.Teams changing names too.To hell with that BS as well. NFL is a kowtowing group of overpaid prima donnas (just like the loser NBA) and I would love nothing better than if they had to go back to the old days of playing for $300.00 a game

17 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

If the NFL allows kneeling and plays a "Black National Anthem" I'm stuffing everything I ever bought Eagles wise and sending it back to the NovaCare Complex.

There is ONE national anthem and i'm not gonna stand for a bunch of spoiled brats running everything down that my family and I sacrificed to preserve.

 

Come on I bandied about a lot of stuff with the crew here . No fools posting here.I and several family members served in the Military. We veterans stand by our oath to the American people.  As a Black man I don't need a Black National Anthem. America will not continue to exist with a government that don't give a crap about its people . The wealthiest country purposely letting it's citizens die from this pandemic for profit 130.000 Americans dead. Think about this before Trump... the 1%'ers owned 21%of Americas wealth with all the giveaways of our Tax dollars the latest Trillions that our Republicans gave to big business and Corporations the 1% ers now own 41% of America wealth . Do we have any 1%ers posting here. Obama like Trump are both pieces of crap because Neither kept their oath to the American people. All our government Democratic or Republican are about is lining their pockets at our expense . Trillions of our tax dollars to the wealthy, The average Stimilus check to the poor and the unemployed was $1200 while the wealthy got 1.7 Million dollars. We gave hundreds of millions  to Companies Not Headquartered in America. Our government has sold us out to Foreign influence, Lobbyists and Corporations.

Trump is a POS like that POS Obama  neither of them work for the American people and Both of them are pushing for a Corporate state. Look up what A Corporate State is. Because as we lose our middle class, and you've just seen how our Small Business just got killed because the majority of the money went to Big Business and the wealthy. They continue to kill off poor whites , People of color, and the older generations 130,000 America Citizens murdered. Those are facts and you know those numbers are on the low end through manipulation. you think there is gonna be a place for any of us NON BILLIONAIRES other than as Servants. You think White privilegewill continue to protect you , 

I have posted on here with All of you for years. I know your politics.... We disagreed for years about the team. We still had passionate respectful discussions as a Black man , we were able to share in a common pleasure called the Philadelphia Eagles. Years of cheering together with our varying opinions and politics  for our team. Standing, Kneeling, for the flag is meaningless argument ...It's. Meant to keep us fighting each other and as we continue to be manipulated against each other .Big Business, Corporations , our elected officials Democrat and Republican continue to rob us blind. All here need to recognize is our Democracy is in grave danger . As our Elected officials continue to work with Corporations to create laws to take away our rights, to make your vote meaninglessness and silence our voices you think your White privilege will give you a voice in a Corporate State.  What does it tell you when enemies of All Americans, The Russians, The Chinese, the Koreans have an open invitation to disrupt our constitutional elections from our own president.....treasonous.

America... Americans use to stand for Integrity, A country United . A manufacturing and Industrial powerhouse. Greed has changed our leaders. They shipped All our jobs to places where Slave labor exists and they  profit.. We used to demand a certain level of accountability from our elected officials .  People of Color , and the poor are still living in hell facing coming evictions with no Insurance, no support, No Compassion, No Empathy  from our government.  As all can see, what do Americans do when we have had ENOUGH. I think our young people are sending a clear message.  Change Must Happen.

1 minute ago, Trini said:

Come on I bandied about a lot of stuff with the crew here . No fools posting here.I and several family members served in the Military. We veterans stand by our oath to the American people.  As a Black man I don't need a Black National Anthem. America will not continue to exist with a government that don't give a crap about its people . The wealthiest country purposely letting it's citizens die from this pandemic for profit 130.000 Americans dead. Think about this before Trump... the 1%'ers owned 21%of Americas wealth with all the giveaways of our Tax dollars the latest Trillions that our Republicans gave to big business and Corporations the 1% ers now own 41% of America wealth . Do we have any 1%ers posting here. Obama like Trump are both pieces of crap because Neither kept their oath to the American people. All our government Democratic or Republican are about is lining their pockets at our expense . Trillions of our tax dollars to the wealthy, The average Stimilus check to the poor and the unemployed was $1200 while the wealthy got 1.7 Million dollars. We gave hundreds of millions  to Companies Not Headquartered in America. Our government has sold us out to Foreign influence, Lobbyists and Corporations.

Trump is a POS like that POS Obama  neither of them work for the American people and Both of them are pushing for a Corporate state. Look up what A Corporate State is. Because as we lose our middle class, and you've just seen how our Small Business just got killed because the majority of the money went to Big Business and the wealthy. They continue to kill off poor whites , People of color, and the older generations 130,000 America Citizens murdered. Those are facts and you know those numbers are on the low end through manipulation. you think there is gonna be a place for any of us NON BILLIONAIRES other than as Servants. You think White privilegewill continue to protect you , 

I have posted on here with All of you for years. I know your politics.... We disagreed for years about the team. We still had passionate respectful discussions as a Black man , we were able to share in a common pleasure called the Philadelphia Eagles. Years of cheering together with our varying opinions and politics  for our team. Standing, Kneeling, for the flag is meaningless argument ...It's. Meant to keep us fighting each other and as we continue to be manipulated against each other .Big Business, Corporations , our elected officials Democrat and Republican continue to rob us blind. All here need to recognize is our Democracy is in grave danger . As our Elected officials continue to work with Corporations to create laws to take away our rights, to make your vote meaninglessness and silence our voices you think your White privilege will give you a voice in a Corporate State.  What does it tell you when enemies of All Americans, The Russians, The Chinese, the Koreans have an open invitation to disrupt our constitutional elections from our own president.....treasonous.

America... Americans use to stand for Integrity, A country United . A manufacturing and Industrial powerhouse. Greed has changed our leaders. They shipped All our jobs to places where Slave labor exists and they  profit.. We used to demand a certain level of accountability from our elected officials .  People of Color , and the poor are still living in hell facing coming evictions with no Insurance, no support, No Compassion, No Empathy  from our government.  As all can see, what do Americans do when we have had ENOUGH. I think our young people are sending a clear message.  Change Must Happen.

You're gonna get no argument from me about that. But the only way it's gonna is through a constitutional convention or violence.

I prefer the first choice

As far as the stimulus goes that's what you get when you write a bill, pass it and dole out the money before anyone even read the bill.

I watch football to get away from the pettiness of politics. If a bunch of millionaires chose to stick politics down our throat in that arena I will tune out the NFL and sadly the message they are trying to present.

I took an oath to protect and defend the constitution against ALL enemies. Foreign and domestic.  That means something to me. We are 1 country, white, black, asian and everyone in between. I'm sure we agree on most things maybe just not how to get there.

I wish we lived closer. I'd love to sit down with you and discuss these things over a beer or 2.

23 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

You're gonna get no argument from me about that. But the only way it's gonna is through a constitutional convention or violence.

I prefer the first choice

As far as the stimulus goes that's what you get when you write a bill, pass it and dole out the money before anyone even read the bill.

I watch football to get away from the pettiness of politics. If a bunch of millionaires chose to stick politics down our throat in that arena I will tune out the NFL and sadly the message they are trying to present.

I took an oath to protect and defend the constitution against ALL enemies. Foreign and domestic.  That means something to me. We are 1 country, white, black, asian and everyone in between. I'm sure we agree on most things maybe just not how to get there.

I wish we lived closer. I'd love to sit down with you and discuss these things over a beer or 2.

Brother It would be a pleasure to have a Beer or 6 with you lol. Small world this could happen. Honor service to the American people, My message to my fellow veterans here in Maryland , is we are in the business of protecting Americans  till We die. separated from the military in the mid 80's today in 2020 My oath is even stronger. I love America, I raised my Six kids here. and the threats are everywhere I believe in the American people. We will find a way.

On 7/3/2020 at 4:35 AM, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s not the greatest football. The outcome on the scoreboard doesn’t matter much. But development and judgement of talent is crucial. Gotta find these guys anywhere you can. The difference of a guy making the roster or going to another team depends on it. Clement had several quality moments in the preseason. Undrafted but stuck. Ended up with 100 receiving yards in the Super Bowl. So to me every evaluation of these depth guys is crucial. Like NC brought up...the Philly Special was our backup QB, undrafted RB and third string TE. Last season we didn’t keep enough pass catchers on the roster and it bit us big time. Terribly obvious mistake. Probably should of prevented us from the postseason.

Well... 2 things.

   1. When we cut the August all stars, everyone always gets angry.  Probably because many coaches look at the 30 practices more so than the few plays we see in a preseason game.  I don't think Clement made the team due to any pre season game.  

2.  Yes... pretty much we agree the issue was keeping all the extra developmental linemen last year... it caused issues in being short on receivers/ TEs...  cost us ATL game and who knows what else.     It's why I don't want to do the same with WRs now.  If you have DeSean,  Reager, JJAW, SF guy... Alshon on the PUP.  Now you want to add 3 more to the roster to " develop " ?  

I'm good if Ward earns a spot, and he could replace SF guy... either way there is room for one more that should be your starting returner.  The other guy could end up on practice squad or replace SF guy.   

What I would prefer to avoid...is what happened last year with the limited roster because we had to have 7 DEs and too many developmental OL.  

On 7/4/2020 at 8:41 PM, cunninghamtheman said:

Been a long time since last season. Carson has so many abilities. He does a great job of reading the defense. Excellent at throwing on the run. Just look at the different balls he throws. Some with that zip, like the one to Sanders in the back corner of the endzone that goes by three guys outstretched arms. Still don’t know how he Houdini zipped that pass in there. But then he also utilizes his height and can put a slight touch on throws to just arc and clear over a defender. So many very beautiful plays.

Time for his MVP season now!

Hard for QB to have MVP season without his weapons having either above average talent or high level chemistry.   

Go watch Joe Montana play vs Washington in the NFC title game in Jan 1984.  Mike Wilson was his best target.  The best game I've seen a QB play, didn't make the top 10 in the NFL networks list of top Joe M games. No Rice, no Clarke...etc.   

Unfortunately as Jaws once said in local radio... " the QB is the most dependent position in sports" your success relies on too many other people.  Wentz himself is the least of my concerns, what we put around him will be the issue.  Too many " developmental WRs just like too many developmental OL or DEs " is probably not a way to go.

   We had the second oldest team in the league last year. We are all capped out. Just really nowhere else to go but a youth movement. 
  2018 draft class: Mailata, Pryor, Maddox, Sweat and Goedert

  2019 draft class: Miller, JJAW, Sanders and Dillard

   We have to rely on all these guys to come through and become the foundation of our franchise. Just added a big draft class this year. But it’s hard to complete the youthful transformation if guys don’t make the team. Had some quality undrafted guys added as well. Where the team is at in three or four years depends on it. 

 

Always is a balance between youth and aging vets. Do we need the HoFJason Peters at the end of his career? Or should we turn the job over to the first round pick Dillard? It’s also a balance between this year and the longer term team needs.

Looks to me like this is our team, for the most part, for the next three seasons.

Our biggest upcoming loss would appear to be at WR. DJax and Jeffrey are on borrowed time. So we need to develop some WR. We stocked up the cupboard with this draft(probably include JJAW). We need Hightower, Watkins or Bailey to step up. That looks clearly like the plan. Not just the 2020 plan...but longer term. But I don’t think anybody would tell you any of those three are expected to be ready by week one. So what do you do?

21 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We coddled the ever injured Hollins for years.

No we didn’t lol he had a strong rookie year as the 4th WR, went on IR his 2nd year(doesn’t effect anything being on IR didn’t use a roster spot or anything). Released his 3rd year soooooo how did we coddled him for years lol.

 

Mahomes signed a 10 year deal to stay in KC

As an agent or a QB not sure I’d want my QB to sign a 10 year deal. Guess he has security and no doubt enough money for multiple life times but at the same time the way the QB market resets how long until he is underpaid again??? 2-3 years and he still stuck in his 10 year deal with little leverage 

6 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

As an agent or a QB not sure I’d want my QB to sign a 10 year deal. Guess he has security and no doubt enough money for multiple life times but at the same time the way the QB market resets how long until he is underpaid again??? 2-3 years and he still stuck in his 10 year deal with little leverage 

Being the best player in the league is enough leverage regardless. But we’ll see this deal reworked multiple times I’m sure. I haven’t seen what the figures even are. It has to be astronomical. How could it not be the biggest contract in the history of the game?

Twelve years of big money is easily assumed here(counting the two more years he’s already under contract). Likely very high guaranteed money. Of coarse you take it. Without knowing any details this is the most complicated contract in NFL history. I have zero problems making that assumption.

Really a perfect storm for a big contract. You have a player that’s the best in the game that just won his first Super Bowl. But he also got injured. It looked close to a very serious injury. 

Charlie Daniels died

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Being the best player in the league is enough leverage regardless. But we’ll see this deal reworked multiple times I’m sure. I haven’t seen what the figures even are. It has to be astronomical. How could it not be the biggest contract in the history of the game?

No it’s not enough leverage lol fact is nothing Mahomes can do if after 2-3 years he is massively underpaid again. Which is likely the way the QB market resets 

BG the NFL looks vulnerable for once. Feels like the first time the league money making isn’t going to increase. The American economy looks really bad right now. Not a very pretty picture going forward I’m afraid. Not sure how to get into all this without it getting too political? But there are tons of old baby boomers. They are feeding off the system more than feeding the system at this point and going forward. The National Debt seemed unwieldy and out of control before 9/11. It’s done nothing but grow leaps and bounds since then. Lost our countries triple A credit rating. All the government wants to do is spend more. Trying to keep this to a very simplistic short version of the fact that the NFL money making machine might not be guaranteed to keep generating more revenue each season like its always done.

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

No it’s not enough leverage lol fact is nothing Mahomes can do if after 2-3 years he is massively underpaid again. Which is likely the way the QB market resets 

He was still under contract for two more years

10 year for 450 million dollar whopper of a contract for Mahomes