1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/players/2021/kadarius-toney    Similar player to Pitts. I would not be upset if we moved a little in 2 to take him(projected late 1 early 2)

Seen some clips of Moore from Purdue explosive guy on the shorter end though... They are comparing him to Tyreke Hill.

Havent watch it yet heard he had a game against Ohio St. which is impressive if true Ohio St. is no slouch team 

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/players/2021/trevon-grimes        Should be a late guy who can help us. with his different skill set. he was impressive in the senior bowl(I know it's one game but we dont have alot to go on here)

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Seen some clips of Moore from Purdue explosive guy on the shorter end though... They are comparing him to Tyreke Hill.

Havent watch it yet heard he had a game against Ohio St. which is impressive if true Ohio St. is no slouch team 

Yeah Rondale could be our 2 pick,although I would rather move for Toney if possible

I like Oweh, not sure how the birds feel about Barnett. if they think he will make more impact, then I can see us going WR in 2(but I like Oweh he is a BEAST)

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yeah Rondale could be our 2 pick,although I would rather move for Toney if possible

I’d hope Moore falls with his injury history really hasn’t played much last two years 

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

I like Oweh, not sure how the birds feel about Barnett. if they think he will make more impact, then I can see us going WR in 2(but I like Oweh he is a BEAST)

Our DL is old think if we find a DL we like that can part of the future we will love to add them. 
 

Even if we keep Barnett and Sweat those are the only two guys under 25 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I’d hope Moore falls with his injury history really hasn’t played much last two years 

yeah tough for him,no real late stuff to look at and IDK if I want an ijury history player right away. Seems we lose those guys before they take off 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Our DL is old think if we find a DL we like that can part of the future we will love to add them. 
 

Even if we keep Barnett and Sweat those are the only two guys under 25 

Tough for me because there are so many mock scenarios. Not as cut and dried as I am used to. We can go about any direction

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Tough for me because there are so many mock scenarios. Not as cut and dried as I am used to. We can go about any direction

I’m sticking with Parsons even if I’m going to be disappointed by it lol just to great a value if there at 12. 
 

Id strongly consider coming back into round 1 for one of the top CB of one slipped into the late first. Though think we can get a really good CB round 2 as well. 

5 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Our DL is old think if we find a DL we like that can part of the future we will love to add them. 
 

Even if we keep Barnett and Sweat those are the only two guys under 25 

On my mock I added Sills in 4,so IDK what to do with pick 37.that pick has always been my mock black sheep pick lol. The rest isn't too bad. Pick 2 is my achilles right now because that effects the rest of things for me. I'm hoping we take Surratt at LB because we need a LB someday lol

Parson's needs to grow up. IDK if he is worth that effort with an all new staff trying to assemble a team. I like the LB pair from OSU and Surratt. More stable IMO. I don't need another head case/brat/prima donna and while he says he wont let his past define him,it may already have and it already did for me-pass. Don't want another manziel

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Parson's needs to grow up. IDK if he is worth that effort with an all new staff trying to assemble a team. I like the LB pair from OSU and Surratt. More stable IMO. I don't need another head case/brat/prima donna and while he says he wont let his past define him,it may already have and it already did for me-pass. Don't want another manziel

I mean his character concerns are from a 2018 incident he was 17-18... Don’t get me wrong doesn’t excuses him from things but since then pretty sure he has had a child he graduated from Penn St. in 3 years. He has support from a pretty decent former NFL player in Lavar Arrington. 
 

You do your homework but I’m not that concerned about it. 

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I mean his character concerns are from a 2018 incident he was 17-18... Don’t get me wrong doesn’t excuses him from things but since then pretty sure he has had a child he graduated from Penn St. in 3 years. He has support from a pretty decent former NFL player in Lavar Arrington. 
 

You do your homework but I’m not that concerned about it. 

Welp, you should be before handing him the #1 draft pick you are stuck with for 4 years. It's just another problem I want to avoid because we have enough problems as it is. IMO he  is too unstable to be handed millions of dollars

OK try this mock(assuming we think Barnett will deliver). 1-12-Horn-CB  2-37- Terrance Marshall-WR- LSU(this guy got alot of stats even being opposite Chase)  3-70 Dylan Moses-LB Bama( I like the OSU LB and Surratt here as well)   3-84 Josh Myers-C-OSU    4-123-Daruis Sills- DL-WV    5-143-James Wiggins-S-Cincy   6-188- Jaret Patterson-RB-Buffalo  6-223- Kenny Yeboa-TE-Miss   6-224 Jimmy Morrissey-OG-Pitt  7-233- Mustafa Johnson-DL-Colorado    7-238-Josh Ball-OT- Marshall   UDFA-Brady White-QB- Memphis  Zac Thomas-QB-App st (let them battle for the future 2/3 spot). Loser goes to the PS while Flacco is here)

OK, I just saw a draft where Philadelphia got Pitts at pick 12...? If that happens I will take back everything I said earlier today. Of course I highly doubt it will......

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yeah we tried that with Djax and Alshon,all while failing to get a TOP rookie. I hope Reagor proves himself this year. I wasn't impressed last year

It's not the same as Diggs.  That is the thing, they don't want to go after a top young guy and be done with it.  An extra 1st round pick, I think they trade it for a player, I doubt they make multiple selections in round 1 next year.  They try to get the next Jason Peters ...that type of trade IMO.   It's not the Alshon or DeSean level...it's sure fire top guy at his position. 

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

It's not the same as Diggs.  That is the thing, they don't want to go after a top young guy and be done with it.  An extra 1st round pick, I think they trade it for a player, I doubt they make multiple selections in round 1 next year.  They try to get the next Jason Peters ...that type of trade IMO.   It's not the Alshon or DeSean level...it's sure fire top guy at his position. 

Yeah but see if we already HAD JJ. we would be going after our "Diggs" guy(if we had the money lol) Catch 22 when you have noone already in place

11 minutes ago, stine said:

OK, I just saw a draft where Philadelphia got Pitts at pick 12...? If that happens I will take back everything I said earlier today. Of course I highly doubt it will......

I would be astonished if Pitts made it past Dullaz or the Gnats

8 minutes ago, stine said:

OK, I just saw a draft where Philadelphia got Pitts at pick 12...? If that happens I will take back everything I said earlier today. Of course I highly doubt it will......

Right, like I said,  it doesn't seem to be so cut and dry about this top 6 thing.  On the radio Saturday,  they even had a scenario where Chase falls.  Who knows... I remember a while back when it was a must for us to draft the TE Pettigrew or Knowshawn Moreno.  The skill position player is easy to fall in love with.  But linemen and QBs always work their way up the draft boards.

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yeah but see if we already HAD JJ. we would be going after our "Diggs" guy(if we had the money lol) Catch 22 when you have noone already in place

We had the money, gave it to Hargrave... the 3/4 NT who was going to be coming out in passing situations for Malik Jackson.   Diggs is your #1 option in every situation.   Prime age to pair with a prime age QB.  Was a no-brainer move. 

31 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Welp, you should be before handing him the #1 draft pick you are stuck with for 4 years. It's just another problem I want to avoid because we have enough problems as it is. IMO he  is too unstable to be handed millions of dollars

If you dig deep enough most players you probably find something stupid they did in there early years... why you do your homework on players but since 2018 nothing coming out on Parsons. I’m just not the type to right off a player based off something he did at 17-18 years old.... I’ve done some pretty dumb crap at the age also 

8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

We had the money, gave it to Hargrave... the 3/4 NT who was going to be coming out in passing situations for Malik Jackson.   Diggs is your #1 option in every situation.   Prime age to pair with a prime age QB.  Was a no-brainer move. 

True but we were counting on Djax and/or Alshon. Reagor was supposedly the "icing" on that cake,but obviously that fell apart(McArthurs park lol)

6 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

If you dig deep enough most players you probably find something stupid they did in there early years... why you do your homework on players but since 2018 nothing coming out on Parsons. I’m just not the type to right off a player based off something he did at 17-18 years old.... I’ve done some pretty dumb crap at the age also 

Me too,maybe I would have done even more dumb things if someone handed me a million dollar check

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yeah but see if we already HAD JJ. we would be going after our "Diggs" guy(if we had the money lol) Catch 22 when you have noone already in place

Btw.. if it's me... much easier to build once you have that #1 weapon in place. Much harder to find that guy ( see Alshon and Desean)  get that guy, makes it easier to find complimentary pieces.  Especially if I have a 27 year old QB.  Lock that pairing together, not draft prospects or old past their prime vets.  Something good now, that can sustain for a few years. 

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Btw.. if it's me... much easier to build once you have that #1 weapon in place. Much harder to find that guy ( see Alshon and Desean)  get that guy, makes it easier to find complimentary pieces.  Especially if I have a 27 year old QB.  Lock that pairing together, not draft prospects or old past their prime vets.  Something good now, that can sustain for a few years. 

Well we THOUGHT we had those guys in place,now they are gone and we have to start all over. SO,I wouldnt want Diggs here now,it would be a waste of money

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

True but we were counting on Djax and/or Alshon. Reagor was supposedly the "icing" on that cake,but obviously that fell apart

 

And again...those 2 are not the player Diggs is now...nor project to be here past last year.

It's why I don't let signing a player like Harris effect any long term plans at safety.   Neither does Flacco at QB...etc. 

Because... what exactly were you counting on from DeSean or Alshon... " to hold down the fort "   wtf is that.  Holding down the fort with mediocrity doesn't do anything.  Either have a vet in place that can be there long term,or have a rookie with potential.  You get Diggs last year, insert him as #1 WR for the next 5 years... then you play the young guys or... have the older guys hold down the fort as #2 types.   

For me, this is the year to let the kids play, see who emerges(if anyone). Grab onto that and build off it. I'm hoping this happens at a number of positions