Ward signed his ER tender

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SO JSB these guys are ranked very close. Probably personal opinion but out of Browning, Surratt and Moses who do you like the most? All 3 are very close to where we will pick

I would probably include Cox, Werner, McGrone and Davis in that group as well, but I like Browning the best. He was used badly his first three years as a Mike, but did a lot better when moved outside, which is what we need. He also had a really good senior bowl. But I would be fine with any of the seven guys listed. One of them should be available in the third, and all represent a potential upgrade over what we have.

 

4 hours ago, jsb235 said:

I would probably include Cox, Werner, McGrone and Davis in that group as well, but I like Browning the best. He was used badly his first three years as a Mike, but did a lot better when moved outside, which is what we need. He also had a really good senior bowl. But I would be fine with any of the seven guys listed. One of them should be available in the third, and all represent a potential upgrade over what we have.

 

Yeah I want a LB there, but I can't decide which one . I have been moving them in and out of my mock, so I will just put one in a leave him, but like you I think that's the primes spot to get a value LB

10 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK we drafted Jones????

Exactly! When the medical team tell Howie not to draft someone he listens. When he does draft someone with an injury history that player then continues those struggles.

10 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I just hope we move for the right guys

You and me both! I don't have high hopes though.

19 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I would be astonished if Pitts made it past Dullaz or the Gnats

Giants signed Rudolph. They need O-Line desperately. Dallas is desperate for a CB/S so they won't go after a TE with so many defensive needs....

Well, I hope the Eagles draft a CB at 12 if they cannot get either Pitts or Chase. Either Surtain or Horn would fit in nicely. Parsons would be fine too, but I doubt he will be there. What I do not want is Smith. Waddle or Slater at 12. Of course, because I say this, it will most likely be one of these 3

17 minutes ago, stine said:

What I do not want is Smith. Waddle or Slater at 12. Of course, because I say this, it will most likely be one of these 3

I mean I agree with the first two guys pass... I’d be fine with Slater but don’t think he will be there. 
At 12 I’m with either Horn or Parsons... Don’t want him but the Michigan DE likely on the list as well wouldn’t shock me if we took Paye at 12

15 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Dude was injured two times in college. Three of his five years here. I’d say the odds are against us getting a first round pick.

Except play 100% his rookie year played 100% in 2019 and was at believe 70% in 2020 and he got pulled...Think the odds would suggest it’s in our favor he plays at least 75% 

Hell pretty sure Wentz avg. for his career is right around that 75% mark. 

2 hours ago, stine said:

Giants signed Rudolph. They need O-Line desperately. Dallas is desperate for a CB/S so they won't go after a TE with so many defensive needs....

Normally i could agree,but Dullaz wont pass up Pitts. They can get their CB in round 2. They aren't stupid. Even if they did, As far as the Gnats, Dont think it matters who they signed, he's a young rook stud who can impact a team for a decade. just like if Lawrence fell to 12(to use an extreme example) you would pass on him because we need a CB???? Miami(who took our spot) is in a position to get him as well as the Lions. Looks like we're going to force Ertz to play 

1 hour ago, stine said:

Well, I hope the Eagles draft a CB at 12 if they cannot get either Pitts or Chase. Either Surtain or Horn would fit in nicely. Parsons would be fine too, but I doubt he will be there. What I do not want is Smith. Waddle or Slater at 12. Of course, because I say this, it will most likely be one of these 3

Not much difference between the Bama  WR"s and Chase. Why would you take Chase, but not Waddlle or Smith? Personally I will take Terrance Marshall in round 2(Chase's teammate)

Miami sitting pretty with 2 firsts, 2 seconds and a third.Think Pitts goes to south beach and they get O line with the 18 pick, round 2 still has a plethora of excellent WR's for Tua or they can add more O line and some D. For us I foresee a year of experimenting and sorting through our roster for the best guys and weeding out more dead wood. I will go with JSB's pick(because I could not decide between all the LB's around 70) of Browning at LB in 3,and I also want Josh Myers in 3 as Kelce's replacement at C,so we won't have to worry about that position for 10 years 

46 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Not much difference between the Bama  WR"s and Chase. Why would you take Chase, but not Waddlle or Smith? Personally I will take Terrance Marshall in round 2(Chase's teammate)

  Unless I am getting the best talent at WR, I would much rather get a DB at 12. Grab LB or Edge round 2 then grab WR and whatever you did not take in round 2 in round 3. Don't care after that. Just grab best talent no matter what position. Both Horn and Surtain are slotted around that spot in round 1 so not a reach. Takes care of a problem we have had for over 6 years.

 

6 minutes ago, stine said:

Unless I am getting the best talent at WR,

Rather just get the best talent at 12 regardless of position to me that will be Parsons... so I agree with you 

20 minutes ago, stine said:

  Unless I am getting the best talent at WR, I would much rather get a DB at 12. Grab LB or Edge round 2 then grab WR and whatever you did not take in round 2 in round 3. Don't care after that. Just grab best talent no matter what position. Both Horn and Surtain are slotted around that spot in round 1 so not a reach. Takes care of a problem we have had for over 6 years.

 

Yeah my first 4 are Horn, Marshall( WR),Browning(LB) and Myers at C. Then I have Sills(DL). I'm hoping we are ok on egde rushers for this year cause we're not fixing all this with 1 draft

31 minutes ago, stine said:

Unless I am getting the best talent at WR,

Smith won the Heisman,so curious at to why you would take Chase at 12 but noone else. I will take Marshall in round 2, who lost a TON of looks to Chase in '19, but STILL managed over 700 yards in a short season in 2020 as the only real WR threat with Chase out (752 if I recall) so good value there IMO

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/2021-nfl-draft-scouting-report--wr-terrace-marshall 7 games with over 100 yards a game, but Chase opted out. Still with a full schedule he was on pace for over 1k yards. Also versatile like JJ was

28 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

will take Marshall in round 2

I’d prefer Bateman but just my preference not sure he will make it till round 2 though. 

Would seriously love it if we took Horn then moved up in round 2 for Toney. But, without moving I would take Marshall at 37

12 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I’d prefer Bateman but just my preference not sure he will make it till round 2 though. 

Either one is good. I just want some size if we draft a WR this year. Tired of drafting players under 190 lbs and 6 feet.... They just don't seem to hold up for us....

1 minute ago, stine said:

Either one is good. I just want some size if we draft a WR this year. Tired of drafting players under 190 lbs and 6 feet.... They just don't seem to hold up for us....

Thats the knock on both bama WR's and maybe why you would not take hem(I assume). I like the YAC and versatility of Toney, but we'd need to move up in 2, which I suppose is possible, but it seems Howie is intent on stocking as many picks as possible. With Toney we have staff here that know what he can do and how he an be used. I like Marshall if we stay put

Pick 70 is a terrific place to find a LB, there will be many to choose from there. JSB counted 7. I have 4 I like out of those, but that seems to be the value place to get one. Browning Moses, Surratt,Cox, one of them should be around. Horn at 12 would be a nice guy to pair with Slay and take that side away. Like Farley also at 12,but like Horn just a tad better

For awhile I was putting off getting a WR early, but with the moves to get more round 1's next year for a top QB, I think it would be wise to get a WR in 2, let him learn and offer our new QB some semblance of a weapon to use. Reagor needs to pick it up here in year 2 as well. Ward could turn out to be a nice WR, or at least a solid BU, and Fulgham could be nice once again but I would like to get a decent tandem set for our "apparent" play to get a QB in 2022(which could also be Wilson lol)

14 minutes ago, stine said:

Either one is good. I just want some size if we draft a WR this year. Tired of drafting players under 190 lbs and 6 feet.... They just don't seem to hold up for us....

Toney is only 190 also,similar to the bama WR's. If you want a BIG one then marshall is your guy lol

Also, we really need to get a tandem RB in here. I like Patterson for that. I have him at the 188 pick, but he could move up,so IDK

LOL, we are talking about who we should draft knowing Howie will get none of them..... depressed.....