45 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I think much depends on supplying a heavy rushing attack. In all the ways we can. RB, QB....Jet Sweep! Options abound for the passing game coming off those.

Again why I’d be looking at things Carolina did and Baltimore etc. they used a heavy ground game and it wasn’t just the RBs 

48 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Agree with the idea of looking into these things.   But I would say Hurts is more similar to Jackson... Cam is a physical beast, fast, but not necessarily quick.   His size though and much better arm than Hurts.

Yes Cam is a physical freak but when say Hurts is similar to Cam is more in the terms think Hurts is a more physical style runner from what I’ve seen over the more finesse style that is Jackson. 
Of course Cam is 6’5 260(240 now) so that is drastically different but style running is why I said similar to Cam 

Dark is probably the best comparison though think Dak is a far superior passer... But Dak is also a more physical runner when he actually runs 

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Who does Dillard beat out at RG....Brooks or Herbig?

Not even Driscoll

I’d still let it be Mailata vs Dillard for LT... Mailata should have the advantage. Even if Mailata wins he is known for back problems so would need a backup LT just in case. Lane is also known to miss games though Dillard should not be backup RT I’d go Driscoll first. 

If Dillard loses the battle then during the year we can look at him at other positions like G or something and maybe he can compete in 22 for a job there 

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

So with this talent at WR... I'm assuming no need to draft one.  We need to take it off the mocks.

What does this have to do with Kahlil? He tried, but there is no way he can compete at WR ANYWHERE(even here with out lackluster guys), so we put him back into his natural spot where he had a better shot at success

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

This is what BG has been trying to say the whole time.   Which you keep missing.    Since Hurts has similar traits to these other running QBs... we should look to bring in these other elements that Carolina, Baltimore had... in order to help Hurts.    You follow? 

LMAO I've been saying this the entire time also, you follow??? All running QB's have the same traits all the way back to Tarkenton. With few exceptions you are a running QB or a pocket passer.you follow?

3 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Again why I’d be looking at things Carolina did and Baltimore etc. they used a heavy ground game and it wasn’t just the RBs 

I’d love to go a bit more ground heavy relatively speaking - relative to what we were under Doug.  But that would likely mean we need to invest in the position because Sanders and Scott just aren’t going to cut it.  Scott should not be a #2.  I wouldn’t be opposed to an early day 3 pick on a RB.  Heck I’d even consider one late day 2 if the right guy was available and other players we’d potentially have our sights on for scooped up.  But preferably we use those day 1/2 picks on CB, LB, WR, and potentially either DL or IOL day 2.  

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not even Driscoll

How do you know if you never try it????? yeah just "assume", but it's fine that we "assume" a QB can be a WR right?Love the double standard. So If Mailata wins the OT job what are you doing with that high draft pick? Maybe he can be  QB or WR. 

So we have 6 TE's on the roster, looks to me like we will sort through them for the next guy up to pair with Goedert when Ertz leaves. I guess Ertz will play for us this year

25 minutes ago, time2rock said:

I’d love to go a bit more ground heavy relatively speaking - relative to what we were under Doug.  But that would likely mean we need to invest in the position because Sanders and Scott just aren’t going to cut it.  Scott should not be a #2.  I wouldn’t be opposed to an early day 3 pick on a RB.  Heck I’d even consider one late day 2 if the right guy was available and other players we’d potentially have our sights on for scooped up.  But preferably we use those day 1/2 picks on CB, LB, WR, and potentially either DL or IOL day 2.  

Love to have Patterson in this draft and maybe snag a FA as well. I would also look at Jefferson(jermar) at RB as a UDFA project

24 minutes ago, time2rock said:

I’d love to go a bit more ground heavy relatively speaking - relative to what we were under Doug.  But that would likely mean we need to invest in the position because Sanders and Scott just aren’t going to cut it.  Scott should not be a #2.  I wouldn’t be opposed to an early day 3 pick on a RB.  Heck I’d even consider one late day 2 if the right guy was available and other players we’d potentially have our sights on for scooped up.  But preferably we use those day 1/2 picks on CB, LB, WR, and potentially either DL or IOL day 2.  

I disagree think Scott should be a #2 he is fine as a #2 the issue is he isn’t a lead guy... When Sanders is healthy and Scott is the #2 it’s fine... We need that guy who can be the lead horse if Sanders goes down so Scott stays the number #2 

I mean when you look at Scott’s stats he is right on par with all other #2 RBs and that was on a team that rarely runs and had a meh OL 

So,I am hoping while he is here Flacco can school Hurts on efficient passing(if we can provide a pocket). I want to get Ehrlinger as a UDFA, that would give us 3 QB's with similar styles if Kahlil can turn out to be a 3 or PS player for now

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMAO I've been saying this the entire time also, you follow??? All running QB's have the same traits all the way back to Tarkenton. With few exceptions you are a running QB or a pocket passer.you follow?

But why were you bringing up McCaffrey when BG was trying to say " the elements that Carolina have Cam in his early years "?   McCaffrey was year 7 not the early Cam years of their power running game.    BG was suggesting that we should try to get those things... you kept acting like he was saying we already have them?  

OT-UCLA/Zags-excellent game!!!

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

But why were you bringing up McCaffrey when BG was trying to say " the elements that Carolina have Cam in his early years "?   McCaffrey was year 7 not the early Cam years of their power running game.    BG was suggesting that we should try to get those things... you kept acting like he was saying we already have them?  

If you want to model this team after Cam's early years, then we are doing a fine job because they normally had 1 RB and Greg Olsen. We have Sanders and Ertz. That trend continued when they drafted Caff, so sorry I even mentioned him. The point was IDK how you can compare him to Cam's early years or later years or any other running type QB, when we have no clue what we have after 4 games with a trash team. NC had Williams, then Stewart, then Caff. Why not compare him to any other running QB's early years? Haskins, Brissett? IDK it's just too early for me to make comparisons and I never said 93 said we already had them, we all know better than that, please.ALL I said was it didn't hurt that Cam got Caff(early,not early,late whatever) so make a big deal out of a simple observation.Whatever. IDK what the time frame is of "early years"

7 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If you want to model this team after Cam's early years, then we are doing a fine job because they normally had 1 RB and Greg Olsen. We have Sanders and Ertz. That trend continued when they drafted Caff, so sorry I even mentioned him. The point was IDK how you can compare him to Cam's early years or later years or any other running type QB, when we have no clue what we have after 4 games with a trash team. NC had Williams, then Stewart, then Caff. Why not compare him to any other running QB's early years? Haskins, Brissett? IDK it's just too early for me to make comparisons and I never said 93 said we already had them, we all know better than that, please.ALL I said was it didn't hurt that Cam got Caff(early,not early,late whatever) so make a big deal out of a simple observation.Whatever. IDK what the time frame is of "early years"

Again,  it's not about " only 4 games, not about " knowing what we have"

Simply,  you see the running style of Hurts.  Cam had early success,  Baltimore has had some success.     So we look at some elements that both of those teams had on offense.. and you try to bring them in here ...style wise.   

As for Carolina,  there was a power runner,  fullback type that I forget his name.   Baltimore has a power element to their running game.   Seattle had it with Lynch. 

This element we don't have.   With a running QB, an offense that will feature the Play action " mesh point "    getting the defense to focus on stopping that 4 yard power run up the middle is key for opening up the QB run. 

You could look at those teams, I believe you see the blocking type TEs.  Multiple,  not just Olsen and Goedert comparison.    

These things were the point of the posts, looking at some elements we can bring in to help a running QB early in his career.  Like these other running QBs had...early in their career.  Fran Tarkentin really doesn't come into play. 

40 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Again,  it's not about " only 4 games, not about " knowing what we have"

Simply,  you see the running style of Hurts.  Cam had early success,  Baltimore has had some success.     So we look at some elements that both of those teams had on offense.. and you try to bring them in here ...style wise.   

As for Carolina,  there was a power runner,  fullback type that I forget his name.   Baltimore has a power element to their running game.   Seattle had it with Lynch. 

This element we don't have.   With a running QB, an offense that will feature the Play action " mesh point "    getting the defense to focus on stopping that 4 yard power run up the middle is key for opening up the QB run. 

You could look at those teams, I believe you see the blocking type TEs.  Multiple,  not just Olsen and Goedert comparison.    

These things were the point of the posts, looking at some elements we can bring in to help a running QB early in his career.  Like these other running QBs had...early in their career.  Fran Tarkentin really doesn't come into play. 

IMO it IS about knowing what we have. How can you provide the needed elements if your QB style changes next year with a new shiny object behind center? I'm fine with bringing all that in IF, you are going to stick with that style QB, otherwise,you wasted a whole year and have to re-do it all again(Like what if you changed from 34 to 43 D's and back again every year). Wentz was not in the style of Hurts(yes we failed to build a team around him and that cost alot of people their jobs). SO now,new style(or we think) because after 4 games you don't know squat. Will Hurts settle in and be more of a pocket passer or are we going all in on the Jackson style? After 4 games,I dont think Hurts style is set in stone. We'll get some guys in here for Hurts and see where his play style settles in. Then after this season,we have a decision to make,the one Howie is setting us up for later. If Hurts balls out(which I don't see,but I mean if he exceeds expectations) we have 3 round 1's next year to help even more.if not, we can choose to replace him because we will have the draft cap to do it, and we need to settle on the QB style we want in Philly. I'm happy Hurts CAN run,if he has to,but I think Flacco was brought in to get him to move in the pocket/extend the play while he goes through he checks downs and not be a 1 read QB. If we can accomplish that, maybe we have Wilson 2.0 on our roster,but we don't know much yet

Happy Easter fellow Eagles fans.  

Is this for real?

 

(25) Georgia CB Eric Stokes Runs a 4.25 Forty 🔥🔥🔥 ᴴᴰ - YouTube

1 hour ago, Asg 15 said:

Is this for real?

 

(25) Georgia CB Eric Stokes Runs a 4.25 Forty 🔥🔥🔥 ᴴᴰ - YouTube

1 hour ago, Asg 15 said:

Is this for real?

 

(25) Georgia CB Eric Stokes Runs a 4.25 Forty 🔥🔥🔥 ᴴᴰ - YouTube

Can’t seem to trust these 40s every player running a sub 4.4 lol I’d take it with a grain of salt 

1 hour ago, Asg 15 said:

Is this for real?

 

(25) Georgia CB Eric Stokes Runs a 4.25 Forty 🔥🔥🔥 ᴴᴰ - YouTube

Yeah, I ran a 4.04. I clocked it myself too!!! I bet you can run a sub 4 if you time yourself 

17 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IMO it IS about knowing what we have. How can you provide the needed elements if your QB style changes next year with a new shiny object behind center? I'm fine with bringing all that in IF, you are going to stick with that style QB, otherwise,you wasted a whole year and have to re-do it all again(Like what if you changed from 34 to 43 D's and back again every year). Wentz was not in the style of Hurts(yes we failed to build a team around him and that cost alot of people their jobs). SO now,new style(or we think) because after 4 games you don't know squat. Will Hurts settle in and be more of a pocket passer or are we going all in on the Jackson style? After 4 games,I dont think Hurts style is set in stone. We'll get some guys in here for Hurts and see where his play style settles in. Then after this season,we have a decision to make,the one Howie is setting us up for later. If Hurts balls out(which I don't see,but I mean if he exceeds expectations) we have 3 round 1's next year to help even more.if not, we can choose to replace him because we will have the draft cap to do it, and we need to settle on the QB style we want in Philly. I'm happy Hurts CAN run,if he has to,but I think Flacco was brought in to get him to move in the pocket/extend the play while he goes through he checks downs and not be a 1 read QB. If we can accomplish that, maybe we have Wilson 2.0 on our roster,but we don't know much yet

So again.  You bring in these elements... which really work with any QB and offense...  unless you don't like a bigger power running RB and TEs that can block?   

You see how Hurts does and you go from there.   But the coach should call plays using Hurts ability to run the ball.  We kinda do know he can run,  doesn't really take top long to realize that.   

You put in Flacco... still helps having a power runner and blocking TEs.... you just call different plays.

It's really not the same as changing from 3-4 to 4-3 defense when you actually have a few different positions.  It's just trying to emphasize a few things that should help the young QB early on. 

12 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yeah, I ran a 4.04. I clocked it myself too!!! I bet you can run a sub 4 if you time yourself 

4 mins 4 secs - I can do that!

Hope everyone had an enjoyable day yesterday.

I WAS JUST READING ABOUT Jevon Holland safety. Is really good and projected 2nd round. If we grab Parsons or Horn in the first, I would not be upset if we took Holland in the 2nd. Would go a long way helpin out our pass defense....