2 minutes ago, time2rock said:

DraftTek's latest mock (revision #24, posted earlier today):

1 (12) - Surtain

2 (37) - Marshall

3 (70) - Stokes

(I'd be absolutely thrilled with those first 3 picks)

3 (84) - McGrone

(not a bad 4th pick but they do have Elijah Moore going 2 picks later to the Jets and Baron Browning going 2 picks after that to the Rams - I'd much prefer either of those)

4 (123) - Rumph

5 (150) - Trey Hill

6 (189) - Damar Hamlin

6 (224) - Brady White

6 (225) - O'Bryan Goodson

7 (234) -  Calvin Ashley

7 (240) - Jordon Scott

 

For the first pick to happen, the Eagles would have to move up to 9. It is possible, but one of their 3rd rounders would disappear....

20 minutes ago, stine said:

For the first pick to happen, the Eagles would have to move up to 9. It is possible, but one of their 3rd rounders would disappear....

Their latest mock included a couple simulated trades ... one involving NE moving up to 10 to get Mac Jones pushing Dallas behind us (who then take Horn at 15).  

33 minutes ago, stine said:

BG, I agree totally. I just was making a point Wentz played like crap last year and Joe is saying it had nothing to do with his play, that that was because of everyone else. Yes, the O-Line played poorly. Yes the coach could have helped him. Yes the RB's and TE's could have done a better job. But Wentz played terrible also. His footwork was out of sync. He stared down WR's. He never anticipated, but held on to the ball waiting for them to get open. He held onto the ball too long. To exonerate him for any wrong doing is just ignorant in my opinion. He would have had better stats had the O-Line played better, but nothing approaching the previous year's numbers. Would a PS have made a difference? Most likely, but we cannot use that as an excuse as all other teams had the same situation.

   Listen, I hope Wentz plays lights out this year. Then we will get a first round pick that my be sorely needed.

Who ever said ... it had nothing to do with his play.  Find that in any if my posts?    Please let me know where I said that.   I will send you $100 gift card to store of your choice if you show me where.

The point I will make for the 100ty time.  You can't compare anything to what Wentz or Doug had to deal with from an offensive coach or QB standpoint.  So don't give me Rodgers with his all pros or Brady with his in 2014.   It's not the same as the total dumpster fire that Wentz had around him ....which to me is absolutely the main factor in his poor results.  That's not taking away any blame for him on the plays that were his fault.  

39 minutes ago, time2rock said:

DraftTek's latest mock (revision #24, posted earlier today):

1 (12) - Surtain

2 (37) - Marshall

3 (70) - Stokes

(I'd be absolutely thrilled with those first 3 picks)

3 (84) - McGrone

(not a bad 4th pick but they do have Elijah Moore going 2 picks later to the Jets and Baron Browning going 2 picks after that to the Rams - I'd much prefer either of those)

4 (123) - Rumph

5 (150) - Trey Hill

6 (189) - Damar Hamlin

6 (224) - Brady White

6 (225) - O'Bryan Goodson

7 (234) -  Calvin Ashley

7 (240) - Jordon Scott

 

Yup, the first three are solid. Third round seems early for McGrone since he is coming off an injury, but I don't mind the pick. I think they are way off on Elijah Moore if they have him going late in the third. Rumph is an OLB in a 3-4 and too small to play DE for us. Brady White seems like a pretty meh pick compared to the other possibilities at qb. The other picks seem fine.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So here is the million dollar question. Which position has the biggest issues? Needs an immediate upgrade? Thats our 12 pick. I'm going to say CB, then pick the next 3. After round 3 (maybe 4) all I want are upside youth injections everywhere(even if those are the same position picks as 1-4)

I don’t think desperation for a position of need should be the driving force behind our pick at twelve. Just gotta get the best guy we can.

4 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Yup, the first three are solid. Third round seems early for McGrone since he is coming off an injury, but I don't mind the pick. I think they are way off on Elijah Moore if they have him going late in the third. Rumph is an OLB in a 3-4 and too small to play DE for us. Brady White seems like a pretty meh pick compared to the other possibilities at qb. The other picks seem fine.

They are probably off on Browning going that late too, but should either be there at 84 that would be my pick.  Like I said not a bad pick but just have a stronger preference for those other two.  Also not really crazy about the day 3 picks but IMO it is most important to hit on as many of our day 1/2 picks as possible.  Surtain, Marshall, Stokes, Browning would be a tremendous draft regardless of how the rest works out.  

35 minutes ago, time2rock said:

Their latest mock included a couple simulated trades ... one involving NE moving up to 10 to get Mac Jones pushing Dallas behind us (who then take Horn at 15).  

  Not so sure Dallas trades behind us if they are eyeing Surtain. I could be wrong as that happens often, but I would see us moving ahead of them if that is the guy they want. Of course they may want Farley and move up for him. I feel it would be a huge mistake, but some feel he is the best CB regardless of the back issues.....

  

1 hour ago, stine said:

  I read somewhere that the Eagles rarely draft players they bring in for a workout. This was a few years ago so it may have changed, but the article said it was all smoke screens? Anyone else remember that, or is it my memory that is finally shot......

IDK it's all virtual now,so who the hell knows???

1 hour ago, time2rock said:

DraftTek's latest mock (revision #24, posted earlier today):

1 (12) - Surtain

2 (37) - Marshall

3 (70) - Stokes

(I'd be absolutely thrilled with those first 3 picks)

3 (84) - McGrone

(not a bad 4th pick but they do have Elijah Moore going 2 picks later to the Jets and Baron Browning going 2 picks after that to the Rams - I'd much prefer either of those)

4 (123) - Rumph

5 (150) - Trey Hill

6 (189) - Damar Hamlin

6 (224) - Brady White

6 (225) - O'Bryan Goodson

7 (234) -  Calvin Ashley

7 (240) - Jordon Scott

 

Not terrible, Y'all know I like Marshall in 2. I dont see Surtain getting past Dullaz,the board fans have their hearts set on him we better get in here are Kelces replacement and a decent BU/ soon to be starter for Lane at ROT and we still don't know how this new staff feels bout the Mailata/ Dillard fiasco

Who is McGrone? Ok checked He seems like more of a project that I would like

16 minutes ago, stine said:

  Not so sure Dallas trades behind us if they are eyeing Surtain. I could be wrong as that happens often, but I would see us moving ahead of them if that is the guy they want. Of course they may want Farley and move up for him. I feel it would be a huge mistake, but some feel he is the best CB regardless of the back issues.....

  

I hope they do want him and go get him.  Then hopefully that allows at least one of Horn or Surtain to fall into our laps.  

57 minutes ago, time2rock said:

Their latest mock included a couple simulated trades ... one involving NE moving up to 10 to get Mac Jones pushing Dallas behind us (who then take Horn at 15).  

That would be sweet lol

When talking about Rodgers or Brady....one of the main things is how those guys develop players. They make the guys around them better. Don’t think you can really say that about Wentz. In fact seemed like everyone stepped up when the backup came in....several different occasions.

33 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t think desperation for a position of need should be the driving force behind our pick at twelve. Just gotta get the best guy we can.

Nope,like I said we have 11 picks, "desperation"(aka reaching) comes when you have 4 picks

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

When talking about Rodgers or Brady....one of the main things is how those guys develop players. They make the guys around them better. Don’t think you can really say that about Wentz. In fact seemed like everyone stepped up when the backup came in....several different occasions.

Maybe they were more excited,but they all still played at the same level. Don't confuse the 2. it's not like we won out with Hurts

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Not terrible, Y'all know I like Marshall in 2. I dont see Surtain getting past Dullaz,the board fans have their hearts set on him we better get in here are Kelces replacement and a decent BU/ soon to be starter for Lane at ROT and we still don't know how this new staff feels bout the Mailata/ Dillard fiasco

They have Hill (OC from Georgia) as a potential Kelce replacement.  And as mentioned earlier, this mock included some simulated trades (one involving NE trading with Dallas to get a QB which then moved Dallas down to 15).  I just want to hit on as many picks as possible, in particular the round 1-3 selections.  And obviously cannot fix this flustercluck of a roster in a single offseason ... get as many pieces as possible this year, play out 2021 to get a better evaluation of Mailata and Dillard (and Hurts, etc.), and try to fill as many remaining holes as possible next offseason.  We'll have a nice package of early picks and should also have some cap space to play with unlike this year.  

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

That would be sweet lol

Indeed.  Or if they take Farley.  

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Maybe they were more excited,but they all still played at the same level. Don't confuse the 2. it's not like we won out with Hurts

What about the SB? The NFC Championship game? What about our run to make the playoffs after Wentz went down. Much more than four games of Hurts coming in as the backup.

With the Drafek mock,I see no RB picks. I think we better get one!!!! Where is Kelces replacement?(not another 6th round camp body,I mean the guy that will take over for the next 10 years)

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What about the SB? The NFC Championship game? What about our run to make the playoffs after Wentz went down. Much more than four games of Hurts coming in as the backup.

Oh we're back on the Foles train again???? Who cares what happened then? This is about Hurts not Foles. AND BTW WHO got us into position to make the SB run???? OH Wentz,sorry to bust your bubble

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Oh we're back on the Foles train again???? Who cares what happened then? This is about Hurts not Foles

I was talking about Wentz

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I was talking about Wentz

You said the players responded when he went out,or at least thats what I got out of it

7 minutes ago, time2rock said:

Indeed.  Or if they take Farley.  

I had Horn/Marshall,but hey if we can get Surtain lets go there

TTR if that move happened with Dullaz,the I suspect the Gnats would snag Surtain. I know they want linemen,but he would be a gift on a platter for them

So IDK, apparently noone besides me, cares about finding Kelces replacement. It's this lack of planning ahead that keeps us from excelling. That's not a position to experiment with,so I am still for taking Meinerz. By all accounts he could use a years development(which is perfect), but the tools are there and if we're going to rebuild, I suggest we get the best C we can find in round 3/4. I know I stand alone(no surprise there lol)

9 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

TTR if that move happened with Dullaz,the I suspect the Gnats would snag Surtain. I know they want linemen,but he would be a gift on a platter for them

Perhaps.  They did just sign Jackson in FA.  I could see them going Parsons, Waddle/Smith, or one of the OL too.