Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Maybe Buff would go 3rd for Ertz??? That would help us(and them)

I was thinking more 2nd and Ertz for there 1st rounder. Get that extra first 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You need to look at everything. We moved back, traded Wentz and added a third,fourth and two firsts next year(many here think). Giving up a third to get Smith. We added plenty of draft ammo and still hit DeVonte Smith. I wouldn’t even look at it like we gave up anything.

Ham I research WR's every year. It's what I DO. And I am always biased about taking one. But this is a deep draft. Getting Smith was NOT a necessity. We could have filled another hole, so maybe YOU need to look at the overall picture. I love Smith as a WR,but we could have filled that hole later

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I was thinking more 2nd and Ertz for there 1st rounder. Get that extra first 

TOo high,they wont do that

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Here is my question if the bears were willing to trade to 11 why not 10 or 12???? Did the bears not calling Philly about 12??? 

Think the circumstances changed as soon as Philly moved up so I agree with the trade up no but not sure Smith makes it to 12 either 

I mean... Dallas wasn't taking Smith .... but the Giants who have other needs and just added big to their receiving core... they would have taken him?   I don't see it,  Well played by our division. 

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We added draft ammo and still got DeVonte Smith

wow... look who drinks the kewl  ade...  loving howie now????

BTW Ham I was defending Smith all along lol. Still,I put my WR bias aside because there were other holes to fill and this is a DEEP draft at WR

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Ham I research WR's every year. It's what I DO. And I am always biased about taking one. But this is a deep draft. Getting Smith was NOT a necessity. We could have filled another hole, so maybe YOU need to look at the overall picture. I love Smith as a WR,but we could have filled that hole later

TOo high,they wont do that

  Not that steep really especially if you think Ertz can get a 3rd from them... Bills would only be dropping 7 spots and getting Ertz 

Was there a better player for us to pick at six? I think many of us would consider Smith very heavily at six. Other option would have been OT. Moved back from six and still got our guy is the way I see it.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

mean... Dallas wasn't taking Smith .... but the Giants who have other needs and just added big to their receiving core... they would have taken him?   I don't see it,  Well played by our division. 

Lmao just like you didn’t see us taking a WR we were both wrong. Think there was a high chance Ny took Smith 

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

  Not that steep really especially if you think Ertz can get a 3rd from them... Bills would only be dropping 7 spots and getting Ertz 

IDK,there are still 2 nice TE's left on the board. They could take 1 and give up nothing. They are not Pitts,but they are capable TE's

1 hour ago, Asg 15 said:

What did they give up

A 3rd rounder

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK,there are still 2 nice TE's left on the board. They could take 1 and give up nothing. They are not Pitts,but they are capable TE's

They could but not losing a pick and only dropping 7 spots and gaining a TE seems like great a value to me. 
 

30 to 37 would be the cost they don’t actually lose a pick just drop 7 spots. 

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK,there are still 2 nice TE's left on the board. They could take 1 and give up nothing. They are not Pitts,but they are capable TE's

A late TE I like is Yeboah. Tons of potential 

Be similar to how we got Jernigan by just swapping spots 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

They could but not losing a pick and only dropping 7 spots and gaining a TE seems like great a value to me. 
 

30 to 37 would be the cost they don’t actually lose a pick just drop 7 spots. 

IDk we could offer it. I mean they were looking at Tebow lol

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Was there a better player for us to pick at six? I think many of us would consider Smith very heavily at six. Other option would have been OT. Moved back from six and still got our guy is the way I see it.

I see it as we gave Dallas pick 84 for no reason

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

I see it as we gave Dallas pick 84 for no reason

My view also

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Be similar to how we got Jernigan by just swapping spots 

But different because Buffalo gives up 5th year control of the player

Just now, joemas6 said:

But different because Buffalo gives up 5th year control of the player

Is that extra year that valuable I’m not that sure. 7 spots  TE they have had interest in previously. 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

I see it as we gave Dallas pick 84 for no reason

Or worse...let the Giants take Smith and we trade with the Bears.  

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Is that extra year that valuable I’m not that sure. 7 spots  TE they have had interest in previously. 

IDK either... but figure Ertz is going to be released... or they could make the trade way later in the draft... we trade Ertz and a 5th or 6th for their 4th or 5th

Love smith as a WR, but Howie whiffed. Round 2,3 still had very nice WR's we could use without giving up a pick to our arch enemy. I'm sure they are laughing their arses off in Dullaz. My Dullaz bud won't let me live this down now and I have no ammo to use against him lol. He was like "WTF???? Thanks for your 84 dude!!!"

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I see it as we gave Dallas pick 84 for no reason

Freezing cold take.

Lmao Giants took Toney a WR do we still think they weren’t taking Smith at 11?????? 

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Or worse...let the Giants take Smith and we trade with the Bears.  

Bears would have traded with Dallas probably with the giants taking Smith. They were rumored to love Smith pretty much the whole time.

Just now, jsb235 said:

Freezing cold take.

Sure... Dallas passed on the Bears trade for ours makes more sense...LOL

I don’t like the trade up but reasoning is there Giants were likely drafting Smith