Giants taking Toney is a clear sign that they were going to take Smith.

Toney is nowhere as good as Smith. Not even close. Smith can play all over the field, and Toney is only a slot. Smith carried his offense, and Toney had Pitts and Grimes.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Bears would have traded with Dallas probably with the giants taking Smith. They were rumored to love Smith pretty much the whole time.

Ham... so then you think Dallas took our trade over the Bears???   No shot!

1 minute ago, jsb235 said:

Giants taking Toney is a clear sign that they were going to take Smith.

Toney is nowhere as good as Smith. Not even close. Smith can play all over the field, and Toney is only a slot. Smith carried his offense, and Toney had Pitts and Grimes.

Guess Waddle was chopped liver

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Guess Waddle was chopped liver

Don’t want to talk about the 4 games to start the year when Waddle was avg. What 120 yards a game. Smith doesn’t have that Heisman season if Waddles doesn’t go down 

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Guess Waddle was chopped liver

He was hurt all year. maybe you missed that in your wr studies?

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I don’t like the trade up but reasoning is there Giants were likely drafting Smith 

Its the only reason to do it.  after Dallas trades with the Bears.... otherwise either Smith or the Bears trade would have been there for us.   To me, I just can't see either Dallas or the Giants passing up a Bears trade for either our trade or Smith

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Sure... Dallas passed on the Bears trade for ours makes more sense...LOL

Because they only wanted to move to twelve...not all the way back. Same way we probably wanted Hurts guy Smith at six. We moved back, added draft capital and got our guy.

1 minute ago, jsb235 said:

He was hurt all year. maybe you missed that in your wr studies?

So why did he go before Smith?

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Don’t want to talk about the 4 games to start the year when Waddle was a guy. What 120 yards a game. Smith doesn’t have that Heisman season if Waddles doesn’t go down 

Smith carried the team when Waddle went out. Does waddle carry the team if smith was the one who got hurt? We will never know. But we do know Smith can carry an offense on his own and can play outside.

3 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Giants taking Toney is a clear sign that they were going to take Smith.

Toney is nowhere as good as Smith. Not even close. Smith can play all over the field, and Toney is only a slot. Smith carried his offense, and Toney had Pitts and Grimes.

Not really,, the trade value with the Bears plus Toney is much better than just Smith

Just now, joemas6 said:

Its the only reason to do it.  after Dallas trades with the Bears.... otherwise either Smith or the Bears trade would have been there for us.   To me, I just can't see either Dallas or the Giants passing up a Bears trade for either our trade or Smith

Yet to trade a team has to be willing to Ny clearly wanted a WR I don’t think they pass on a guy that they loved supposedly enough so we felt we had to jump them.

I get it joe you wanted us to trade back but your whole argument Smith was going to be there at 12 was wrong 

1 minute ago, jsb235 said:

Smith carried the team when Waddle went out. Does waddle carry the team if smith was the one who got hurt? We will never know. But we do know Smith can carry an offense on his own and can play outside.

Had a nice RB there also

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Because they only wanted to move to twelve...not all the way back. Same way we probably wanted Hurts guy Smith at six. We moved back, added draft capital and got our guy.

Yeah... why take all the Bears offer...LOL

Just now, jsb235 said:

Smith carried the team when Waddle went out. Does waddle carry the team if smith was the one who got hurt? We will never know. But we do know Smith can carry an offense on his own and can play outside.

Was waddle the better WR on the field when they shared it we know that answer lmao 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

 To me, I just can't see either Dallas or the Giants passing up a Bears trade for either our trade or Smith

I think it's clear that you don't understand what was happening. But your lack of understanding doesn't change the likely reality of the situation.

Welp, no matter,it's in the books

 If I also love how Bama isn’t one of the Most loaded college teams... Just tons of talent a first round OL guys, QB two WRs a stud RB and that’s just this draft 

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Yet to trade a team has to be willing to Ny clearly wanted a WR I don’t think they pass on a guy that they loved supposedly enough so we felt we had to jump them.

I get it joe you wanted us to trade back but your whole argument Smith was going to be there at 12 was wrong 

No... I'm just looking at it common sense.... what looks better ,,, to me its easy the Bears offer was the best value over any player there.. Smith or Parsons.   It's not even close.   

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Was waddle the better WR on the field when they shared it we know that answer lmao 

From what perspective? By being covered by the other team's number one CB from the outside rather than by a slot corner? You really want to go down this rabbit hole?

Who was our next guy 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Not really,, the trade value with the Bears plus Toney is much better than just Smith

The jump from Smith to Toney is larger than the Snake River

Let's hope we can give Hurts the time to hit him

So,now Stine will be pissed because we took a "lightweight" lol

Just now, joemas6 said:

No... I'm just looking at it common sense.... what looks better ,,, to me its easy the Bears offer was the best value over any player there.. Smith or Parsons.   It's not even close.   

Common sense says if the Eagles had a way better sense of what was going to play out with those picks then you. NY doesn’t trade if Smith there. 
 

Did Philly get calls for 12 i image they did clearly didn’t take it. I find it hard that Chicago didn’t ask the price for teams at 12-13-14 and jump right to 11 

2 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

From what perspective? By being covered by the other team's number one CB from the outside rather than by a slot corner? You really want to go down this rabbit hole?

By being double covered regularly by beating guys consistently by putting up better numbers consistently 

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Who was our next guy 

The jump from Smith to Toney is larger than the Snake River

So was the bears offer

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Who was our next guy 

The jump from Smith to Toney is larger than the Snake River

I like Marshall better than Toney