Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

JJaw has one left doesn’t he??? Going into final year??? 

Never mind I’m dumb lol this is year 3 next year final year = 2 years 

Some thoughts on the rest of the division.

The Cowboys. Kind of an odd move not to trade with the Bears, which offered a ton more value. I honestly think part of the reason for not trading back was to hurt the Giants. Why not trade back to 20 and take Newsome after missing out on a top cb? Parsons is going to be a really good player, but he can't be a MLB, and neither can Smith, who is owed a ton of money. And their MLB, LVE, can't stay healthy. So the pick confuses me. A typical Cowboys move that everyone thinks is great in April, but which fails miserably in the fall.

The WFT. Jamin Davis is a solid pick, but why not a LT? I think Rivera is a coach who can build a solid defense, and just hopes things work out on offense. Why not Darrisaw here to solve the LT issue? WR made sense here as well.

The Giants. On the one had they were handed a fantastic deal by the Bears. On the other hand, Toney? A slot only guy who is somewhat raw with Bateman still on the board? Why not a pass rusher? Ultimately, though, the Giants are in the same boat as the Eagles. They either have a qb or they don't. And both teams may regret passing on Fields. 

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

JJaw has one left doesn’t he??? Going into final year??? 

No this is his this year so he's got this year and then another doesn't he? I thought it was a 4 year deal?

12 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

How could you forget that? He's going to be such a key player... Until he's possibly cut this year. 

Senior moment I guess lmao

13 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You can look at it that way, buy I think adding a vet in Golladay is more impact to judge your QB year 1.  He can climb the ladder to catch the ball. 

I think the Giants got lucky, we tanked, took Smith and due to our moves , the Bears offer fell right into their laps.  Selecting the WR at 20 is the questionable part of it, but you can see where the style fits nicely.   Like I was telling Stine, sometimes not getting what you want is better. I think that's the case for NY.    

They came out rosy thats for sure

12 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Some thoughts on the rest of the division.

The Cowboys. Kind of an odd move not to trade with the Bears, which offered a ton more value. I honestly think part of the reason for not trading back was to hurt the Giants. Why not trade back to 20 and take Newsome after missing out on a top cb? Parsons is going to be a really good player, but he can't be a MLB, and neither can Smith, who is owed a ton of money. And their MLB, LVE, can't stay healthy. So the pick confuses me. A typical Cowboys move that everyone thinks is great in April, but which fails miserably in the fall.

The WFT. Jamin Davis is a solid pick, but why not a LT? I think Rivera is a coach who can build a solid defense, and just hopes things work out on offense. Why not Darrisaw here to solve the LT issue? WR made sense here as well.

The Giants. On the one had they were handed a fantastic deal by the Bears. On the other hand, Toney? A slot only guy who is somewhat raw with Bateman still on the board? Why not a pass rusher? Ultimately, though, the Giants are in the same boat as the Eagles. They either have a qb or they don't. And both teams may regret passing on Fields. 

Daniel seems coherent. I suspect this year they gel alot better. I was SMH over Toney,figured they would go D or bolster their O line,but whatever

1 minute ago, jsb235 said:

Some thoughts on the rest of the division.

The Cowboys. Kind of an odd move not to trade with the Bears, which offered a ton more value. I honestly think part of the reason for not trading back was to hurt the Giants. Why not trade back to 20 and take Newsome after missing out on a top cb? Parsons is going to be a really good player, but he can't be a MLB, and neither can Smith, who is owed a ton of money. And their MLB, LVE, can't stay healthy. So the pick confuses me. A typical Cowboys move that everyone thinks is great in April, but which fails miserably in the fall.

The WFT. Jamin Davis is a solid pick, but why not a LT? I think Rivera is a coach who can build a solid defense, and just hopes things work out on offense. Why not Darrisaw here to solve the LT issue? WR made sense here as well.

The Giants. On the one had they were handed a fantastic deal by the Bears. On the other hand, Toney? A slot only guy who is somewhat raw with Bateman still on the board? Why not a pass rusher? Ultimately, though, the Giants are in the same boat as the Eagles. They either have a qb or they don't. And both teams may regret passing on Fields. 

Agree... it baffles me if the Cowboys passed up a offer from the Bears unless they really wanted Parsons.  Which is why even with all your 100% factual reporting of offers made to all the other teams, I still have some doubt it was on the table or that they just didn't want Parsons.   But also agree,  if they had to screw one team, smarter for them to screw NY than us.

Giants, better lucky than good. 

Wash, I think they are OK, if not better than ok at WR.  But LB was surprising. 

I do think the Giants are set at QB, and this is welcome to the NFL year similar ( but not necessarily anywhere near as big as Allen... REPEAT LOOKING AT THIS LAST PART BEFORE MISREADING MY POST.... A legit NFL season for Jones with the first decent healthy cast he has had,  not necessarily the monster year like Allen)   the less he has to throw to Engram the better for him.  

Big picture, none of these teams are really contenders yet.  Although I think the other 3 are still decent, there is no need to rush anything, everyone still has a lot of work to do in the next couple of days.  I wouldn’t be surprised to see some player trades either.  

 

25 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Some thoughts on the rest of the division.

The Cowboys. Kind of an odd move not to trade with the Bears, which offered a ton more value. I honestly think part of the reason for not trading back was to hurt the Giants. Why not trade back to 20 and take Newsome after missing out on a top cb? Parsons is going to be a really good player, but he can't be a MLB, and neither can Smith, who is owed a ton of money. And their MLB, LVE, can't stay healthy. So the pick confuses me. A typical Cowboys move that everyone thinks is great in April, but which fails miserably in the fall.

The WFT. Jamin Davis is a solid pick, but why not a LT? I think Rivera is a coach who can build a solid defense, and just hopes things work out on offense. Why not Darrisaw here to solve the LT issue? WR made sense here as well.

The Giants. On the one had they were handed a fantastic deal by the Bears. On the other hand, Toney? A slot only guy who is somewhat raw with Bateman still on the board? Why not a pass rusher? Ultimately, though, the Giants are in the same boat as the Eagles. They either have a qb or they don't. And both teams may regret passing on Fields. 

Dullaz thought they could snag a CB at 10. With both gone they had to take their next best guy. The decision was made by Dullaz EARLY in the week,that they didn't want to fall "too far". The 20 pick would have taken them out of where they wanted to be. When the top CB's were gone,the move back to 12 was a no brainer. They knew we weren't taking Parsons

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Daniel seems coherent. I suspect this year they gel alot better. I was SMH over Toney,figured they would go D or bolster their O line,but whatever

I think much like Vander Esch is probably gone from Dallas... Shepherd is out in NY.

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I think much like Vander Esch is probably gone from Dallas... Shepherd is out in NY.

TOney was used similar to Pitts in that he can play the "jack of all trades" role. How they use him in NY is yet to be seen. He could actually be like Pitts 3.0 if they wanted to use him like that. Nowhere hear Pitts talent wise,but he could still play that similar role and maybe why they took him over a "specific spot" WR. Only reason I can think of. He can play various spots, not tied to just one,so maybe that is their thinking. Just a guess. He can slot,or play the TE 2 type role

4 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

This Koramoah's intrigueing as well, line him up at S, Nickel, LB

Kind of feels like a tweener. Not sure how he’d be incorporated

1 hour ago, time2rock said:

3rd behind Dallas and NY

Giants just added Toney also

I want Samuel, I would move to get him if needed

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I want Samuel, I would move to get him if needed

Seems like he should be there at 37?   4 spots ahead of us and looks like there are players ranked ahead of him ... including the Alabama DT and C?   

34 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You can look at it that way, buy I think adding a vet in Golladay is more impact to judge your QB year 1.  He can climb the ladder to catch the ball. 

I think the Giants got lucky, we tanked, took Smith and due to our moves , the Bears offer fell right into their laps.  Selecting the WR at 20 is the questionable part of it, but you can see where the style fits nicely.   Like I was telling Stine, sometimes not getting what you want is better. I think that's the case for NY.    

Yeah, but you will pay heavily for a guy like that. I was trying to figure a way around that so we could free up loot for CB and LB acquisitions, since we do that anyway. What we dont spend on WR's can be used for all the other spots we cant develop LOL 🙄

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yeah, but you will pay heavily for a guy like that. I was trying to figure a way around that so we could fee up loot for CB and LB acquisitions, since we do that anyway. What we dont spend on WR's can be used for all the other spots we cant develop LOL 🙄

yeah... their philosophy for 3 decades except for when they paid the FAs to help win the SB

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Seems like he should be there at 37?   4 spots ahead of us and looks like there are players ranked ahead of him ... including the Alabama DT and C?   

IDK I cant say what the teams ahead of us will do

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

I want Samuel, I would move to get him if needed

Opinions seem to be somewhat divided on Samuel. Reuben Frank said he would take Campbell instead because he is more physical and fits better in a cover 2 scheme.

Neither guy has a great RAS, and part of me is thinking Melifonwu would be a better choice than either of them for our defense. But I love Samuel's tape - he is a scrappy competitor who never seems to be physically outmatched, so if they draft him it would be fine with me.

The only thing I hope is that we don't have to reach, or that the owner bursts into the room and starts touting a guy who showed him an Eagles tattoo during a zoom meeting.  

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

yeah... their philosophy for 3 decades except for when they paid the FAs to help win the SB

They got lucky and guessed right. I am trying to take away one position of luck and guesswork lol

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK I cant say what the teams ahead of us will do

Seems like we are in a good spot either way.... this is what I was talking about a while ago... we need a Ertz type pick here, and then some solid ones later.  I don't really think it matters the player or position at this point, just let it come to us and make a quality pick. 

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Seems like he should be there at 37?   4 spots ahead of us and looks like there are players ranked ahead of him ... including the Alabama DT and C?   

I am torn about getting an OC. I really dont want to replace kelce with a 2nd rate guy. It's another one of my unpopular picks. I just don't want to mess around with that spot.I want my next pro bowl OC ready to roll

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

They got lucky and guessed right. I am trying to take away one position of luck and guesswork lol

easier to guess on a veteran who already proved themselves in the NFL than project a college kid

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Seems like we are in a good spot either way.... this is what I was talking about a while ago... we need a Ertz type pick here, and then some solid ones later.  I don't really think it matters the player or position at this point, just let it come to us and make a quality pick. 

IF Samuel is there at 37 I take him, if not I would look for a trade back, or another position because frankly after Samuel,you may as well wait until the 70 pick IMO

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

easier to guess on a veteran who already proved themselves in the NFL than project a college kid

sure,thats why you pay cause you cant develop your own. How many FA WR's does GB or NO take?(barring a super star)

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Seems like we are in a good spot either way.... this is what I was talking about a while ago... we need a Ertz type pick here, and then some solid ones later.  I don't really think it matters the player or position at this point, just let it come to us and make a quality pick. 

If I can leverage Ertz,today is the day

Ertz could really put Buffalo in a position for a SB run(IMO). If we trade, I still look there even though we have been rejected already

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IF Samuel is there at 37 I take him, if not I would look for a trade back, or another position because frankly after Samuel,you may as well wait until the 70 pick IMO

sure,thats why you pay cause you cant develop your own. How many FA WR's does GB or NO take?(barring a super star)

they use their money to buy other positions.   Does it really matter?   You gotta do both to eventually win.