Maybe the Pats get Watson. We all know Kraft had to rearrange his happy ending schedules. They could probably fly high enough on kraft’s G 8 jet to be out of any legal jurisdictions.

34 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Doesn’t look like he is going to jail seems more likely that a settlement will be reached. Not saying it’s the right thing but definitely looking like the outcome from everything I’ve seen and heard.

I honestly it's all BS like it quite often is.

These young guys suddenly come into more money than they ever dreamed about and start thinking with the small head.

There's always someone out there who's gonna try to take it.

The question with Watson is what does he cost if he is cleared... Texans aren’t getting anything close to what they could have gotten before all this. I find it tough for them to even be able to get multiple firsts. 

My guess right now is Watson will be traded for a conditional first and a mid round pick. Very similar to what we traded Wentz for. 

But enough on Watson real question is do we think we make a trade before the season starts right now feels like a trade could happen...

Brooks for picks??? Or a Cb maybe??? 
 

Though I think Philly will be fine going with Zech starting opposite Slay just by going by Indy D and what they had didn’t heavily invest at CB.

Our D is going to be some type of blend between Minnesota and Indy. 

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

My guess right now is Watson will be traded for a conditional first and a mid round pick. Very similar to what we traded Wentz for. 

Nah, he’s only getting traded if he gets through his legal issues. It tarnished his character as the leader. I’d say a first and two seconds could do it. I think we beat everybody out with two firsts and a third. You know how we do.

Two firsts and a third is much cheaper than the stakes were looking before all his issues surfaced.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Nah, he’s only getting traded if he gets through his legal issues. It tarnished his character as the leader. I’d say a first and two seconds could do it. I think we beat everybody out with two firsts and a third. You know how we do.

Think you overvalued him don’t think he is getting that even when cleared not anymore. 
 

Even if cleared could still face suspension plus this whole ordeal drastically lowered his value. Think a first is steep and would be lucky for Houston even if cleared. Think best case for them is a conditional pick that could turn into a 1st and maybe a 2nd 

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I think we beat everybody out with two firsts and a third. You know how we do.

Except Howie is one of the better traders in the NFL he isn’t going to overpay for Watson if we targeted him. 

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But he is also the best possible solution. Wilson isn’t coming to Philly. ARod is too old.

He’ll only be allowed automated massages for a year. You know the stiff penalties 

SO why is he a better option than keeping Wentz?  We would just drive him off also. Please tell me we aren't this stupid

Until we get a solid team in say '23,24, even '22 may entice a few, I don't want to spend on a QB. How would Aaron Rodgers have done here last year?. Nope,I will save my loot and take a QB in round 1 next year if I have to. We have the guns to do that. Howell from NC(if he looks got this upcoming year) is a much better option.First you have him 5 years(with option), he costs a pittance and if we cant put a decent team with upside potential around a guy ,why the hell would we shell out 35 million bucks a year (or pick your figure) for additional failure. We would just end up in another Wentz situation which is exactly why this scenario is possible with Howie at the helm

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SO why is he a better option than keeping Wentz?  We would just drive him off also. Please tell me we aren't this stupid

Watson isn’t remotely Wentz. Watson is a top five QB.

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Watson isn’t remotely Wentz. Watson is a top five QB.

Top 5? I mean absolutely top 10, I think top 5 is up for debate. I think it's a good debate though. 

34 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Watson isn’t remotely Wentz. Watson is a top five QB.

Because he had receivers?????? And we gave Wentz what tools exactly?

28 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Top 5? I mean absolutely top 10, I think top 5 is up for debate. I think it's a good debate though. 

What makes you believe he(Watson) would be a top 5 QB in Philly if we had him the last 4 years??????

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

What makes you believe he(Watson) would be a top 5 QB in Philly if we had him the last 4 years??????

He's not had a lot to work with in Houston either to be fair. 

 

Deshaun Watson5414,5391,1861,74867.88.3269.21045.9362.11741,050104.5  Here's Watson first 4 years stats

NAMEGPYDSCMPATTPCTAVGYDS/GTDTD%INTINT%SCKSCKYRATE

Carson Wentz5614,1911,3112,05563.86.9253.4974.7351.712980792.7 Here are Wentz's

Now compare the WR's both had at their disposal. Seems to me they would be about the same

https://www.houstontexans.com/team/players-roster/  trash lol

Yes, having Hopkins and Fuller thru most years was a definite anchor(please)

12 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

He's not had a lot to work with in Houston either to be fair. 

LOL yeah Hopkins and Fuller were trash for many years

19 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I believe it worth considering. Siri can’t be poached. Get him a leg up. Let him really establish himself. Gannon we aren’t likely to keep. Four years is my max thinking with these coaches anyway. Really looking at this as our development staff. Which I do think was considered on purpose.

Gannon has not proven himself to even be an average defensive coordinator....  let alone get " poached"  to be a head coach.   Again.  Lets see if thsi guy is average first.  Our team sucks.... like I think people need to understand this .... OUR TEAM SUCKS!!!!!!    There is nothing on this roster or this coaching staff that has proven to be any hot commodity.   Gannon might have been in demand for some interviews to be a DC.   That's great... .very long way away from being anything yet in this league.  Especially a head coach.     Again, let's not get ahead of ourselves.... dude hasn't proven D#$k yet!  

19 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Not really Gannon and Schwartz are completely different I’m not concerned about guys getting poached though and I don’t think this rebuild/retool takes as long as you 

Absolutely... Cox and Graham are playing forever.... we only have to rebuild to  compliment them... they never need to be replaced as well.   

21 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Absolutely... Cox and Graham are playing forever.... we only have to rebuild to  compliment them... they never need to be replaced as well.   

Joe whatever you want buddy we been around and around this circle. 
you say massive rebuild I say playoff caliber by 22 real contention my 23 

35 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Gannon has not proven himself to even be an average defensive coordinator....  let alone get " poached"  to be a head coach.   Again.  Lets see if thsi guy is average first.  Our team sucks.... like I think people need to understand this .... OUR TEAM SUCKS!!!!!!    There is nothing on this roster or this coaching staff that has proven to be any hot commodity.   Gannon might have been in demand for some interviews to be a DC.   That's great... .very long way away from being anything yet in this league.  Especially a head coach.     Again, let's not get ahead of ourselves.... dude hasn't proven D#$k yet!  

Not that anyone cares but we are ranked 25th on the power rankings(NFLN) last year we were 6th before the subsequent fiasco began 

IDK I need to see this team operate in 2021 before knowing anything going forward. The first thing I wanna know is do we have a QB or not?