4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

No gas here in NC. My daughter filled up her tank this AM. All they had was premium and they are out of that now too

I hope you don't run out of beer

2 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Considering the US has, for years, equated a biological attack to a chemical attack to a nuclear attack they'd better have proof because we have no useable chemical weapons and as far as i know no biological weapons.

That only leaves one option.

Russia and China now working together. Buy your Chinese/English dictionaries while you can

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

No gas here in NC. My daughter filled up her tank this AM. All they had was premium and they are out of that now too

I'll lay odds this whole thing was started by some employee opening a link from an E-Mail 

2 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

I hope you don't run out of beer

Luckily I went to the store 4 days ago and I stocked up/ If ya need one C'mon down I got plenty(and 300 bottles of wine)

Umm Asg - one of the things Obama did was create an office to prevent and react to those things - trumpy got rid of it, Biden brought it back. Imagine what could happen if we could quickly react or prevent these things. Takes more than handing out paper towels or shooting clorox.

1 minute ago, mjkline1958 said:

Umm Asg - one of the things Obama did was create an office to prevent and react to those things - trumpy got rid of it, Biden brought it back. Imagine what could happen if we could quickly react or prevent these things. Takes more than handing out paper towels or shooting clorox.

What i'm trying to explain to you is the USA considers a bio attack to be a nuclear attack and would respons in that fashion.

No office in the government can change that. Only the president can.

10 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Umm Asg - one of the things Obama did was create an office to prevent and react to those things - trumpy got rid of it, Biden brought it back. Imagine what could happen if we could quickly react or prevent these things. Takes more than handing out paper towels or shooting clorox.

More CNN BS lmfao. No attacks while he was in,YOU voted for this BS,hope you're happy. You need to thank Trump for your Vax as well

11 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Russia and China now working together. Buy your Chinese/English dictionaries while you can

Mandarin

13 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

I'll lay odds this whole thing was started by some employee opening a link from an E-Mail 

Seems like they are really pissed about how vulnerable and easy this attack was to pull off.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Seems like they are really pissed about how vulnerable and easy this attack was to pull off.

Thats how these things often begin.

Someone opens a harmless looking E-Mail then clicks on a link with an embedded virus.

Employee training is always the best cybersecurity

Sometimes I think we're too nice, we don't retaliate. But who's to say we're not doing the same thing to them? We did it to Iraq before the "bushy war that's lasted decades. Daddy Bush I respected, ex CIA Director he knew there wasn't an exit strategy. Now the middle east will be solidified in that we won't see things thru. All they ever have to do is oultast us and they win - and they.ve been doing it for 1000's of yrs! Same w/ China - they have a very long plan, and they aren't stopping. We're 200 yrs old and we want it now. We're far to impatient and get drawn in to different conflicts that it weakens us in not taking care of our own country an our own people. Corporations made a LOT of money during the shutdown, They know how to make money in bear or bull markets - do dyou? Did you? Funny, corporate ceo earnings rose over 21% last yr. Put that on top of the trump tax break they made out pretty well.. Did you? 

12 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Umm Asg - one of the things Obama did was create an office to prevent and react to those things - trumpy got rid of it, Biden brought it back. Imagine what could happen if we could quickly react or prevent these things. Takes more than handing out paper towels or shooting clorox.

Russians been cyber attacking us for years. They are the best in that business. I can’t see how you could make this a partisan issue. Thing is....we’ve been cyberattacking many as well. So that part becomes a little tricky. We can’t just roll over and try and prosecute one Russian Hacker ten years from now.

1 minute ago, Asg 15 said:

Thats how these things often begin.

Someone opens a harmless looking E-Mail then clicks on a link with an embedded virus.

Employee training is always the best cybersecurity

This is true. But these hackers are arguably the best. I’d say they have been digging into our infrastructure for years. They already have tools placed inside. Hopefully this isn’t just one move of many on an organized massive plan to take us down.

4 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Sometimes I think we're too nice, we don't retaliate. But who's to say we're not doing the same thing to them? We did it to Iraq before the "bushy war that's lasted decades. Daddy Bush I respected, ex CIA Director he knew there wasn't an exit strategy. Now the middle east will be solidified in that we won't see things thru. All they ever have to do is oultast us and they win - and they.ve been doing it for 1000's of yrs! Same w/ China - they have a very long plan, and they aren't stopping. We're 200 yrs old and we want it now. We're far to impatient and get drawn in to different conflicts that it weakens us in not taking care of our own country an our own people. Corporations made a LOT of money during the shutdown, They know how to make money in bear or bull markets - do dyou? Did you? Funny, corporate ceo earnings rose over 21% last yr. Put that on top of the trump tax break they made out pretty well.. Did you? 

Actually i got a tax break.

It's pretty hard to give a tax break to poor people, especially those who don't pay taxes.

3 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Sometimes I think we're too nice, we don't retaliate. But who's to say we're not doing the same thing to them? We did it to Iraq before the "bushy war that's lasted decades. Daddy Bush I respected, ex CIA Director he knew there wasn't an exit strategy. Now the middle east will be solidified in that we won't see things thru. All they ever have to do is oultast us and they win - and they.ve been doing it for 1000's of yrs! Same w/ China - they have a very long plan, and they aren't stopping. We're 200 yrs old and we want it now. We're far to impatient and get drawn in to different conflicts that it weakens us in not taking care of our own country an our own people. Corporations made a LOT of money during the shutdown, They know how to make money in bear or bull markets - do dyou? Did you? Funny, corporate ceo earnings rose over 21% last yr. Put that on top of the trump tax break they made out pretty well.. Did you? 

Oh yeah we have. Hit Iran’s nuclear ambitions several times. We’ve been all up in the high level encryption programs many countries were using to secretly communicate also. 

Yep, but give then some money and they spend it - that's what  reallly  drives the economy. BTW - did I mention my 1st 2 yrs in econ - hated it,

9 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

"bushy war

Killary and the rest of the dems ALL voted for it, it was unanimous, so stop the BS finger pointing when you lack facts

No, we trojaned a bunch of puters we sold them so when we attacked their anti-aircraaft batteries went offline.

Nobody buy that stuff from us anymore

11 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Sometimes I think we're too nice, we don't retaliate. But who's to say we're not doing the same thing to them? We did it to Iraq before the "bushy war that's lasted decades. Daddy Bush I respected, ex CIA Director he knew there wasn't an exit strategy. Now the middle east will be solidified in that we won't see things thru. All they ever have to do is oultast us and they win - and they.ve been doing it for 1000's of yrs! Same w/ China - they have a very long plan, and they aren't stopping. We're 200 yrs old and we want it now. We're far to impatient and get drawn in to different conflicts that it weakens us in not taking care of our own country an our own people. Corporations made a LOT of money during the shutdown, They know how to make money in bear or bull markets - do dyou? Did you? Funny, corporate ceo earnings rose over 21% last yr. Put that on top of the trump tax break they made out pretty well.. Did you? 

Trump had the economy humming, most employed in US history. Now pipelines abandoned, jobs lost,Iran calling the shots, Illegals flooding our border, border wall astopped, US infrastructure all under attack, Israel under attack, Taiwan being threatened, more people staying home because they make more on the govt boob(this is socialism when the govt takes care of you cradle to grave).It's really quite say how brainwashed you are and how badly you hate American values, just what your so called "colleges" are teaching our kids. if the US is so bad why are you here? Or better yet why are others trying to get IN????

Ummmmmmmmmmmm, If I recollect correctly little bush went into that on his own, Didn;t get allies beforehand, had no exit strategy, basically. a  clusterF. That and dontcha love how many times trickle down economics hasn't worked? Yet they sell  it every time. Know what's hard to sell? Actually helping the little guy. Ask your local bar owner if they had a 21% profit last yr on top of a 1/3 tax break.

13 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Yep, but give then some money and they spend it - that's what  reallly  drives the economy. BTW - did I mention my 1st 2 yrs in econ - hated it,

LMFAO HAHAHA you flunked that course I take it. Small biz's closing at record rates,those are your main body employers,but this administration is clueless OR they are trying to destroy this economy on purpose. 266k jobs added was the WORST Showing in 30 years. I'm leaning towards the latter. Eric Salwell slept with a chinese spy yet he is STILL in our govt. Hunter Biden ,like daddy is as corrupt as they come. Big biz did GREAT because they want to keep the lockdowns going because they benefit by online orders(see Amazon)

9 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Yep, but give then some money and they spend it - that's what  reallly  drives the economy. BTW - did I mention my 1st 2 yrs in econ - hated it,

Please just don't say you have an economics degree from Boston U

Ummmmmmmm Obama set those numbers up, trump did as much for the economy as he did in his other businesses. Only prob is you can't make money on bankrupting the US

4 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Ummmmmmmm Obama set those numbers up, trump did as much for the economy as he did in his other businesses. Only prob is you can't make money on bankrupting the US

Obama got us more into national debt then all other presidents COMBINED. He more than doubled it. Biden is now on a trajectory to break that record and if he gets there the US is DONE. Be proud cause this is what you voted for(well actually Dominion did) 

4 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Ummmmmmmm Obama set those numbers up, trump did as much for the economy as he did in his other businesses. Only prob is you can't make money on bankrupting the US

Please tell that to the current administration.