https://uclabruins.com/sports/football/roster/nate-meadors/8250 To their credit,at least they are signing YOUNG guys!!! Spent a year on the Vikes,then wasted time in Jax. Just says DB so IDK how we will use him

47 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Grandson got a 3 star rating form sports 24/7? I think that's the name anyway

15 minutes later the Baylor O line coach called him.

He's already committed to Tulane

Where would he rather go? If he didn't sign it's only a committment,which can be changed

13 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Where would he rather go? If he didn't sign it's only a committment,which can be changed

He knows a comittment isn't the same as signing. He's got some decisions to make

12 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Yeah I disagree.   I think you had more fun watching in 2004, when expectations were high.     This Bull$@#t idea of expectations are low so its fun??    Couldn't be farther from the truth.   The high expectations and the pressure each game holds when they are there, is exactly what makes sports fun. 

   The journey of 2017 was the best part, not just the end.  And it wasn't even close.  

Even when we suck I live and die with the results each Sunday. Probably effects my whole week.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Even when we suck I live and die with the results each Sunday. Probably effects my whole week.

I'm only affected game day and they day after we play Dullaz cause my Dullaz buddy ribs me all day long(or in RARE cases me to him lol)

An article from the first day of rookie camp.

Nick Sirianni says DeVonta Smith may be better than expected | RSN (nbcsports.com)

An interesting note was that the team spent more time stretching than in previous years, which might help with injuries.

There's obviously not going to be much new info this time of year, but there are a few things that popped up. One is that Kelce seemed to indicate in an interview that he isn't close to retirement. This makes sense as his contract is structured in a way that he will get roughly $5 million a year for the next two years, and then a voidable $10 million in the third year. Graham has a similar deal, in that he will get $8 million, $9 million and $9 million over the next three years, and then a void year cap hit of $10 million.

In effect, Kelce's deal is two years, $20 million, which is barely top 10 for a center. And Graham's is three years for $36 million, which isn't even top 20 for DEs.

These are great deals for solid vets. I would expect Cox and Slay to sign similar deals if they play well this year. We could save $31 million in cap space next season if we cut those two players post June 1, but I think both guys can still be productive. So look for each to sign similar deals to lower their cap hits for next year. This should give us enough money to sign guys like Mailata and Goedert, and bring back guys like Wilson, McLeod, Maddox and Harris if they play well. We also face decisions on Barnett and Sweat, but I would almost let them walk for the comp pick rather than putting a lot of money into them, especially if we are transitioning on defense. Plus, if Hurts plays well and the young DEs like Jackson and Johnson show promise, we can draft dline help next year early.

 

 

  

1 hour ago, jsb235 said:

An article from the first day of rookie camp.

Nick Sirianni says DeVonta Smith may be better than expected | RSN (nbcsports.com)

An interesting note was that the team spent more time stretching than in previous years, which might help with injuries.

There's obviously not going to be much new info this time of year, but there are a few things that popped up. One is that Kelce seemed to indicate in an interview that he isn't close to retirement. This makes sense as his contract is structured in a way that he will get roughly $5 million a year for the next two years, and then a voidable $10 million in the third year. Graham has a similar deal, in that he will get $8 million, $9 million and $9 million over the next three years, and then a void year cap hit of $10 million.

In effect, Kelce's deal is two years, $20 million, which is barely top 10 for a center. And Graham's is three years for $36 million, which isn't even top 20 for DEs.

These are great deals for solid vets. I would expect Cox and Slay to sign similar deals if they play well this year. We could save $31 million in cap space next season if we cut those two players post June 1, but I think both guys can still be productive. So look for each to sign similar deals to lower their cap hits for next year. This should give us enough money to sign guys like Mailata and Goedert, and bring back guys like Wilson, McLeod, Maddox and Harris if they play well. We also face decisions on Barnett and Sweat, but I would almost let them walk for the comp pick rather than putting a lot of money into them, especially if we are transitioning on defense. Plus, if Hurts plays well and the young DEs like Jackson and Johnson show promise, we can draft dline help next year early.

 

 

  

I think about how much I need to do more stretching. Never really been a part of my way of life. But that is one of the main things I’ve taken from Tom Brady. He really believes in the pliability making his career possible.

  Kelce I just don’t see making the decision to play this year as a only this year decision. He’s been doing the year to year thing. But it was a perfect time to hang up the cleats if he was really even considering it. New coaches(not his position coach). Not going to be a fun season. Rebuilding team. I really believe he made the decision to play for two...maybe three years. Now it could all change if his body fails him. But mentally he got over whatever hurdles. Graham is the definition of a guy they will keep too long. Seemed like he ran out of steam this past season. But he’s a legend....made it happen. Good character guy that’s great for the young guys. Business wise we should have let him go. We have the chance to have him as only an Eagles his whole career. Be nice. Don’t know...because trading him to a needy team before the deadline is a better business decision.

  Mailata is a tough situation. The truth is we’d be better off having him as a backup this season. If he starts and improves he’s going to be in demand as a FA. Going to drive his price way up. The smart business thing is to hold him back this year. Not a popular opinion...I know. But if it saves us 6 mil a year on keeping him...yeah. We brought in a LB and S. I think they will work out here. So I expect them to need to extend them during this season if they don’t fail.

 Losing Sweat and Barnett would be tough. I believe Barnett is better than he has shown. Injuries have hurt him. But he hasn’t stepped up like he’s capable. Still young. So if he steps us this season it’s tricky. He plays himself right into a big contract. Same with Sweat. Both make great trade bait potentially. Love guys in contract seasons. Expect both to have career seasons. Partly gotta balance trading them with the compensatory pick situation. Are we looking to get comp picks out of our losses next season? That means you can’t sign FA. So if your plan is to buy FA then you rather trade than worry about comp. 

 I’m not sure about the rooks you mentioned. Milton I see being the early run down DE potentially. Moving inside to DT on passing downs. Not sure how ready he is either. He needs NFL level bulking. So just looking for him to get his feet wet this season. Tupoutu(however you spell) seems like a niche short yardage NT type DT. A potential complimentary player to Milton.

   Thing is I want to keep most of these draft picks. This team needs to carry plenty of dead weight this year. Nobody ever likes it. But we can’t afford to lose these developmental guys. Big picture plan here. Gotta give as many young inexperienced guys a chance to grow and develop over the next couple seasons. It comes at the expense of this season. But that’s what I’d do. Not going with the best 53 this year. Need guys that they think can get there in 2022, 23....

Got to be careful getting rid of all the older guys though. Need them to guide the youth. It’s going to be a tough season. The locker room could easily get real volatile. Not sure how ready Siri is to handle that. It’s tough for any coach. But a first time HC that’s losing will really be tested. Not sure how this team will feel about losing. We know Hurts can’t stand it. Smith and Dickerson aren’t used to it. Really going to test Hurts. I think we’ve already seen that he will go all out to try and win. But with this team that means crazy level of hero ball. That won’t be good for him. That is exactly what could bury him. Down two scores do you take low risk chances? To win you absolutely do. But everyone will crucify him for throwing an interception. Unfortunately this is what I see probably happening. We get down multiple scores and Hurts will try and will the team to victory. That could be his doom though.

McLeod came out saying he’s focused on being ready to play week one. I haven’t been thinking he’d remotely be ready already by then. But it was great to hear. I was thinking he might even start on PUP. I know I’m putting too much into this...but I believe him....at least that it gave me confidence he’ll not miss too much time. He’s an older player so....it’s not like we have to worry about his ten year future for us. He’s a player we can risk a bit more to go for it. If he’s rushed back too soon it would suck but not be anything crucial.

3 hours ago, jsb235 said:

An article from the first day of rookie camp.

Nick Sirianni says DeVonta Smith may be better than expected | RSN (nbcsports.com)

An interesting note was that the team spent more time stretching than in previous years, which might help with injuries.

There's obviously not going to be much new info this time of year, but there are a few things that popped up. One is that Kelce seemed to indicate in an interview that he isn't close to retirement. This makes sense as his contract is structured in a way that he will get roughly $5 million a year for the next two years, and then a voidable $10 million in the third year. Graham has a similar deal, in that he will get $8 million, $9 million and $9 million over the next three years, and then a void year cap hit of $10 million.

In effect, Kelce's deal is two years, $20 million, which is barely top 10 for a center. And Graham's is three years for $36 million, which isn't even top 20 for DEs.

These are great deals for solid vets. I would expect Cox and Slay to sign similar deals if they play well this year. We could save $31 million in cap space next season if we cut those two players post June 1, but I think both guys can still be productive. So look for each to sign similar deals to lower their cap hits for next year. This should give us enough money to sign guys like Mailata and Goedert, and bring back guys like Wilson, McLeod, Maddox and Harris if they play well. We also face decisions on Barnett and Sweat, but I would almost let them walk for the comp pick rather than putting a lot of money into them, especially if we are transitioning on defense. Plus, if Hurts plays well and the young DEs like Jackson and Johnson show promise, we can draft dline help next year early.

 

 

  

Then why did we draft Dickerson? You think he's gonna sit 2 years?

18 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Then why did we draft Dickerson? You think he's gonna sit 2 years?

I think he’ll play G. Probably trade Brooks.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I think he’ll play G. Probably trade Brooks.

With his injury record? There's no way they can take that risk. 

3 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

With his injury record? There's no way they can take that risk. 

We need to put eggs in the draft capital. And need to open up cap space. The rookie isn’t the only option at G. I mean they took him with the second pick. Injury record is what it is. You wouldn’t draft him if you weren’t ever going to turn to him because of the injury past. That was a high second rounder at that. The guy gets a job. I agree about the injury history...but they drafted him at 37. That says they are going to turn to him without thinking he can’t hold up.

8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I think he’ll play G. Probably trade Brooks.

If they traded him post June 1 they'd incur another $6M of dead money on this year's cap ... I don't see how they can do that considering we are up against the cap now ($4.8M of cap space now according to OTC) and still need to sign our draft class.  My guess is, if they consider moving him it won't be until next offseason.

23 minutes ago, time2rock said:

If they traded him post June 1 they'd incur another $6M of dead money on this year's cap ... I don't see how they can do that considering we are up against the cap now ($4.8M of cap space now according to OTC) and still need to sign our draft class.  My guess is, if they consider moving him it won't be until next offseason.

What happens to the cap if we trade Brooks post June?   Do we get more or less cap space?    

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

What happens to the cap if we trade Brooks post June?   Do we get more or less cap space?    

I did mention those values were a result from trading him post June 1.  If they traded him BEFORE June 1 it would result in $22M in dead money to this year's cap which would be impossible (but that obviously doesn't make sense since we are only 2 weeks from June 1).  That also means that using a post June 1 designation on him would then push the rest of that dead money ($16M) to next year's cap which has already taken a substantial hit with all the moves Howie made to become cap compliant by the start of this league year.  I believe Brooks is here for 2021 (minimally).  

9 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Then why did we draft Dickerson? You think he's gonna sit 2 years?

Personally I think it was a pretty big mistake to draft him. Certainly he has a lot of upside, but his injury history plus the fact that we really don't have a need on the interior of the line for at least two more years makes it another in a long line of head scratching decisions by this team.

As far as trading Brooks, his contract has some strange provisions that I think make it difficult. From what I can tell, he will likely be here at least two more seasons due to his restructure. And at that point, if Kelce retires and he's healthy there wouldn't be a reason to let him go as Dickerson could step in for Kelce.

Overall, not great work by the Eagles. I think there were a ton of better options in round 2. Richie Grant, Asante Samuel Jr., JOK, Moehrig, Barmore, Levi, Basham and Bolton all made more sense to me. But we will see. If Dickerson steps in at LG and makes the pro bowl, and Seumalo sits for a year because everyone else on the line stays healthy, that isn't the worst outcome in the world. 

57 minutes ago, time2rock said:

If they traded him post June 1 they'd incur another $6M of dead money on this year's cap ... I don't see how they can do that considering we are up against the cap now ($4.8M of cap space now according to OTC) and still need to sign our draft class.  My guess is, if they consider moving him it won't be until next offseason.

But isn’t the plan to to trade Ertz? So they in fact open up a bunch of cap space. Rolling cap...all the future money owed Brooks....

14 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Personally I think it was a pretty big mistake to draft him. Certainly he has a lot of upside, but his injury history plus the fact that we really don't have a need on the interior of the line for at least two more years makes it another in a long line of head scratching decisions by this team.

As far as trading Brooks, his contract has some strange provisions that I think make it difficult. From what I can tell, he will likely be here at least two more seasons due to his restructure. And at that point, if Kelce retires and he's healthy there wouldn't be a reason to let him go as Dickerson could step in for Kelce.

Overall, not great work by the Eagles. I think there were a ton of better options in round 2. Richie Grant, Asante Samuel Jr., JOK, Moehrig, Barmore, Levi, Basham and Bolton all made more sense to me. But we will see. If Dickerson steps in at LG and makes the pro bowl, and Seumalo sits for a year because everyone else on the line stays healthy, that isn't the worst outcome in the world. 

Agree on all.  Regarding Kelce, there was a piece by Hayes recently in the Philly Inquirer that reports Kelce claims retirement is "a ways off".

https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/philadelphia-eagles-jason-kelce-retire-20210513.html

I don't have access to read the full article (otherwise I would have posted it in 411).  

Not sure if we trade brooks or not but Eagles definitely were looking at it prior to the league year so wouldn’t rule it out 

1 minute ago, time2rock said:

Agree on all.  Regarding Kelce, there was a piece by Hayes recently in the Philly Inquirer that reports Kelce claims retirement is "a ways off".

https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/philadelphia-eagles-jason-kelce-retire-20210513.html

I don't have access to read the full article (otherwise I would have posted it in 411).  

Like I’ve been saying. Kelce is unique. No doubts there. He was going year today year. But the guy loves this stuff. He’s a leader. No way he decided to come back this year thinking it’s his last. Just painful to go through. So you know he pretty well committed to at least two or three more seasons. If his body tells him no more...then things change. But mentally I believe that’s how he came to the decision.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But isn’t the plan to to trade Ertz? So they in fact open up a bunch of cap space. Rolling cap...all the future money owed Brooks....

You'd think but Howie also seems intent on meeting a certain return price.  A trade may not happen until closer to the trade deadline.  

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Not sure if we trade brooks or not but Eagles definitely were looking at it prior to the league year so wouldn’t rule it out 

Almost seems like we are viewing Rosie’s mind on the draft move. He thinks Brooks could be his most tradeable asset. Gotta clear out some money and looking to actually get something in return. That means you got to move a big player. Setting up for a new run at things. The list is probably: Barnett, Sweat, Graham, Cox, Johnson or Brooks. Good players....but that’s what it takes to actually get something back. 

4 minutes ago, time2rock said:

You'd think but Howie also seems intent on meeting a certain return price.  A trade may not happen until closer to the trade deadline.  

Well of coarse. He will fetch a decent comp pick if we just let him walk after the season. Why you giving him away for less? Honestly there is a little bit of negotiation tactic that can happen also. Goedert is up for a new deal. If his agent gets unrealistic....you could float the idea of just keeping Ertz. Or at least threatening that as an option.

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But isn’t the plan to to trade Ertz? So they in fact open up a bunch of cap space. Rolling cap...all the future money owed Brooks....

We've been hearing that since the end of last season

Is it just another unfounded rumor?