RememberTheKoy Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 20 minutes ago, MeccaDon123 said: Sure if you measure it by games. Pretty sure this is based on "snaps taken". The issue becomes, if he misses a series of games and they get someone in there that is successful, Wentz could be healthy enough to play, but still ride the bench. And Indy could very well make that happen in order to keep their 1st. This is their worst nightmare come true and based on Wentz's history, they will be doing all they can to prepare for Wentz to be on the bench this season. Pretty sure this is not the start either fanbase wanted. If he is healthy he is going to play. They aren't going to intentionally throw games when they view themselves as a contending team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesIreland Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 It’s some skill that this topic has gotten seven pages. Carson saying that a question about him being vaccinated or not is a personal question. Now do I think he should answer it ? Yes, but I don’t take him answering it that way as conclusive proof one way or the other. Now Dak saying that question breaks HIPPA has me certainly wondering whether he is or not, because that’s not how that works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said: If he is healthy he is going to play. They aren't going to intentionally throw games when they view themselves as a contending team. He should get the surgery, but he likely won’t, will try to play though it, and ultimately be shut down for the season. Book it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, EaglesIreland said: It’s some skill that this topic has gotten seven pages. Carson saying that a question about him being vaccinated or not is a personal question. Now do I think he should answer it ? Yes, but I don’t take him answering it that way as conclusive proof one way or the other. Now Dak saying that question breaks HIPPA has me certainly wondering whether he is or not, because that’s not how that works. Honestly I doubt Dak is vaccinated too, but no one cares about Dak. Heck Wentz would be an afterthought too if it weren’t for the fact his play and health directly have an effect on the Eagles right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesIreland Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: Honestly I doubt Dak is vaccinated too, but no one cares about Dak. Heck Wentz would be an afterthought too if it weren’t for the fact his play and health directly have an effect on the Eagles right now. Well it was just that he said HIPPA which seems to be a bizarre way to answer it. Well yes how he plays has a direct influence on where we draft. I know we don’t know what the exact issue is with wentz from today but you can see why there were conditions placed on his trade which worried me. Maybe the colts were right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, EaglesIreland said: Well it was just that he said HIPPA which seems to be a bizarre way to answer it. Well yes how he plays has a direct influence on where we draft. I know we don’t know what the exact issue is with wentz from today but you can see why there were conditions placed on his trade which worried me. Maybe the colts were right. Colts were absolutely right to make that pick conditional. Wentz hasn’t finished a full season since his rookie year. Yeah I know people want to give him a pass for the playoff game, but the bottom line is he finished the year injured again and last year he got benched. Eagles fans were foolish to assume this would be a guaranteed first round pick. I created this post because the fact the Colts are one of the least vaccinated squads coupled with everything we know about Wentz could Godell’s new ruling hurt the chances of the first. Turns out Carson being so fragile is a bigger issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesIreland Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I realise this is kind of off topic but I’m watching the nfl films bad weather games in nfl history and it just reinforces my belief that pro football is an outdoor game. They showed the lions game in the snow a few years ago. My abiding memory of that game is shady with a face mask full of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bwestbrook36 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said: This dude is already missing time and they haven’t started playing games yet. He’s finished a season once so far and is coming off the worse season of his career. Realistically the second round pick seems more plausible than that first. How he ended seasons here has nothing to do with Indy. He finished 2 full seasons here him getting knocked out in the playoffs has nothing to do with what we need from him to keep that pick. Last year he didn't leave because of injury and I doubt Reich benches him his first year there so that's 3 seasons. Even the season he tore his knee he played enough snaps to get us that pick. Even last year missing 4 games he still had 71% of the teams snaps. He has missed 8 games in 5 seasons because of injuries, so his odds were actually very good to get us that 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said: How he ended seasons here has nothing to do with Indy. He finished 2 full seasons here him getting knocked out in the playoffs has nothing to do with what we need from him to keep that pick. Last year he didn't leave because of injury and I doubt Reich benches him his first year there so that's 3 seasons. Even the season he tore his knee he played enough snaps to get us that pick. Even last year missing 4 games he still had 71% of the teams snaps. He has missed 8 games in 5 seasons because of injuries, so his odds were actually very good to get us that 1st The playoffs are part of the season bud. When the clock ended on the 2019 season was Carson on the field with his teammates or was he in the locker room? 2020 his abysmal play got him benched. Let’s stop acting like these are extenuating circumstances and acknowledge the truth. Heck even in Carson’s best season he didn’t even finish it. Now he’s hurt in practice. Sorry bud, but the player is who he is regardless of the color of his uniform. On top of that people seem so fixated on what this dude did in 2017, but really seem to be ignoring the diminishing player he’s become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesIreland Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said: How he ended seasons here has nothing to do with Indy. He finished 2 full seasons here him getting knocked out in the playoffs has nothing to do with what we need from him to keep that pick. Last year he didn't leave because of injury and I doubt Reich benches him his first year there so that's 3 seasons. Even the season he tore his knee he played enough snaps to get us that pick. Even last year missing 4 games he still had 71% of the teams snaps. He has missed 8 games in 5 seasons because of injuries, so his odds were actually very good to get us that 1st I was arguing with a cowboys fan last year who was trying to say Dak deserved the big contract before wentz because Dak was an iron man compared to wentz and I went looking at his seasons with the eagles and like you’ve said it’s eight games in five season but the narrative became that he was made of glass. But I think it’s fair to say that last season was not a good season of work for him. btw, arguing with a cowboys fan should come with a health warning. This cowboys fan tried to say that the eagles still live in the cowboys shadow all these years later. I responded that it was rich to say that from a team that hadn’t won a super bowl since the Clinton administration and had a stadium with a hole in the roof that made the silver Dome post roof collapse look new. That didn’t go down well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwestbrook36 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, EazyEaglez said: The playoffs are part of the season bud. When the clock ended on the 2019 season was Carson on the field with his teammates or was he in the locker room? 2020 his abysmal play got him benched. Let’s stop acting like these are extenuating circumstances and acknowledge the truth. Heck even in Carson’s best season he didn’t even finish it. Now he’s hurt in practice. Sorry bud, but the player is who he is regardless of the color of his uniform. Yes but we don't need his playoffs snaps is the point I'm making who cares if he gets lit up in the playoff. Again who cares that he misses those games in his best season cause he would of had enough snaps then too. I don't give an eff what he finished or whatever you guys want to say about him. The fact is in 5 seasons he had enough snap counts in 4 of them to get us that pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, Bwestbrook36 said: Yes but we don't need his playoffs snaps is the point I'm making who cares if he gets lit up in the playoff. Again who cares that he misses those games in his best season cause he would of had enough snaps then too. I don't give an eff what he finished or whatever you guys want to say about him. The fact is in 5 seasons he had enough snap counts in 4 of them to get us that pick. But unlike other years Covid is still a factor and this guy still is a diminishing player with injury issues. This should not be looked as some lock to get this 1st round pick. Heck he can’t even finish training camp without getting injured, but you’re defending his injury history. You know truthfully Wentz should have been pulled much sooner than he was in Philly last year. Unlike the Eagles, the Colts have no real obligations to keep playing Wentz if he’s hurting them and preventing them from winning. In fact if they get 2020 Wentz it’s in their best interest not to play him anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwestbrook36 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, EazyEaglez said: But unlike other years Covid is still a factor and this guy still is a diminishing player with injury issues. This should not be looked as some lock to get this 1st round pick. Heck he can’t even finish training camp without getting injured, but you’re defending his injury history. You know truthfully Wentz should have been pulled much sooner than he was in Philly last year. Unlike the Eagles, the Colts have no real obligations to keep playing Wentz if he’s hurting them and preventing them from winning. In fact if they get 2020 Wentz it’s in their best interest not to play him anyways. Im not defending his injury history all I did was look up his snap percentage for each season and he is over 70% 4 out of 5 seasons. He needs 75% in the REGULAR season to get us the pick. So 4 out of 5 seasons of over 70% is good odds. I'm strictly looking at the numbers I'm not interested in anything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said: Im not defending his injury history all I did was look up his snap percentage for each season and he is over 70% 4 out of 5 seasons. He needs 75% in the REGULAR season to get us the pick. So 4 out of 5 seasons of over 70% is good odds. I'm strictly looking at the numbers I'm not interested in anything else I get your point, but the Colts don’t have to give Wentz 70% of his snaps if he’s playing like 2020 Wentz. What would be their purpose for doing so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said: Yes but we don't need his playoffs snaps is the point I'm making who cares if he gets lit up in the playoff. Again who cares that he misses those games in his best season cause he would of had enough snaps then too. I don't give an eff what he finished or whatever you guys want to say about him. The fact is in 5 seasons he had enough snap counts in 4 of them to get us that pick. No idea if this is accurate but saw this posted. And last year he was healthy he would have got more than 75% snaps without being benched. With regard to getting enough snaps for the pick, his injuries here were toward the end of the season. His current injury happening in training camp we'll see. He had some injuries that kept him out of camp and preseason before as well and then would play the regular season. But his injury history certainly is a concern, which is of course why there was a condition in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwestbrook36 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: I get your point, but the Colts don’t have to give Wentz 70% of his snaps if he’s playing like 2020 Wentz. What would be their purpose for doing so? I highly doubt he plays that bad for Reich. He actually listens to him lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/carson-wentz-to-visit-foot-specialist-after-missing-practice-surgery-possible-per-reports/ Quote Carson Wentz is desperately seeking a fresh start following his trade from the Philadelphia Eagles to the Indianapolis Colts, but it's off to a bit of a bumpy start in training camp. After participating in just two practices, Wentz was held out of the team's third practice on Friday with a foot injury, the team announced. According to a report from NFL Network, Wentz will visit foot specialist Dr. Robert Anderson in the near future. It's only at that point that a timetable for his return will be formulated. NFL Media's Mike Garafolo noted that "for now, the team is taking solace in Week 1 still being six weeks away," which does not exactly sound encouraging. His colleague, Ian Rapoport, noted that surgery is a possibility for Wentz. Even if it's a minor ailment for Wentz, which is to-be-determined, it fuels the dark cloud of injury that has attached itself to what began as a promising NFL career. The team is evaluating "what the next move is and how bad it is" at the moment, according to offensive coordinator Marcus Brady, via Jim Ayello of The Indianapolis Star. Brady says Wentz felt a "twinge" in his foot after rolling out on a practice rep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bwestbrook36 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, NOTW said: No idea if this is accurate but saw this posted. And last year he was healthy he would have got more than 75% snaps without being benched. With regard to getting enough snaps for the pick, his injuries here were toward the end of the season. His current injury happening in training camp we'll see. He had some injuries that kept him out of camp and preseason before as well and then would play the regular season. But his injury history certainly is a concern, which is of course why there was a condition in the first place. I understand all that and it absolutely is a concern but, like you just showed he has played enough each year except 1. I'm just looking at the odds and percentage. I can't say anything with out hearing about his contract or how he sucks or he's a baby. I don't care about that sheet anymore he isn't here but he has played enough to more times then not for that pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said: I highly doubt he plays that bad for Reich. He actually listens to him lol. This goes to my original point I was trying to make. The Colts are one of the least vaccinated teams in the league. Regardless if it’s Wentz or not if key players go down due to Covid Carson could struggle just like he did last year. Wentz hasn’t been coached by Reich in a few years. He’s picked up some bad habits along the way. You’re hoping he doesn’t play poorly, but I’m pretty sure listening or not listening to the coach is a reason why an NFL quarterback throws into triple coverage. I’m no longer saying the Eagles have 3 first until it actually happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sack that QB Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 https://www.outkick.com/david-chao-md-carson-wentz-likely-to-miss-start-of-regular-season-with-foot-injury/ Chao guesses over/under week 6 of regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawkinsOwnage03 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Imagine if he was still here right now lmao tatergeddon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesIreland Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said: I highly doubt he plays that bad for Reich. He actually listens to him lol. Touché. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain F Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Eagles should have put a clause in that trade that if Wentz doesn't get to 40%of snaps due to injury, we still get the 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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