4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Ive had this argument before if you took watson last year and put him on that Dolphins team they likely win 11-12 games. They lost 3 games they should have won like the Broncos directly because of bad QB play. It’s why i think their owner badly wants watson. I tend to think the 3 rookie olineman who were drafted high last year and started last year with no real offseason are gonna be better. They improved their weapons with waddle and fuller.

Defense might a regress a little but if it weren’t Tua at QB and they had someone like watson i think that team is a top 5 team in the afc. And if they somehow got watson could argue they’d have the best QB in the afc after mahomes and Allen (could make the argument watson has shown more over the last 3 years then allen to say Allen needs to prove it again this year). I think because it’s Tua it’s gonna hold them back cause I’m not a huge Tua fan even when he was at bama 

Dolphins aren't Tua fans either lol. Not sure why they even bothered drafting him. 

I don't think they are a great team by any means but, to say it's basically a given that they will be terrible is just being in denial because we want a better pick

14 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Patriots should be vastly improved over last year. Don't sleep on the Jets possibly being better than Miami as well...

Yes but it's in the division even at the Dolphins worst and the Patriots best the Dolphins always found ways to stay in games and or beat them. 

It's no different then when we suck or the redskins suck but, still make it close games no matter how good the other guy is. Divisions work the same for the whole league not just us lol. 

Lol the Jets, yeah I'm not buying that one. Again it's still in the division 

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

Did he?  I watched with the volume down and music on because I can’t stand Collinsworth.  Unusual for him because he sees DPI on it seems like every play where the WR doesn’t catch it or at least did in the past.  To the extent I could see the DB’s waist and below, his legs were in front of him and his butt down a bit.  That’s pretty clear sign he is likely on his heels and that was the way he moved. I don’t know if his hands on the receiver aren’t as much to try and prevent a catch as to also try and keep his balance.  I would check the All 22 on Tuesday but I can’t stomach watching any more of the cowpads or Brady.

It was in regards to it being OPI.

13 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said:

Yea I wonder if Miami really overachieved last year. Fitzpatrick bailed them out of a few games

This is also a factor they kept brining him in to bail them out of close games. 

They are definitely going to be a hard team to judge. 

31 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I’m the handsome guy in the black tux. If you see me, scream ManuManu and jump up and down until you get my attention. 

2 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Dolphins aren't Tua fans either lol. Not sure why they even bothered drafting him. 

I don't think they are a great team by any means but, to say it's basically a given that they will be terrible is just being in denial because we want a better pick

I personally think if they got a QB like watson (assuming he isn’t in prison) people look at that team entirely different. 

2 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Yes but it's in the division even at the Dolphins worst and the Patriots best the Dolphins always found ways to stay in games and or beat them. 

It's no different then when we suck or the redskins suck but, still make it close games no matter how good the other guy is. Divisions work the same for the whole league not just us lol. 

Lol the Jets, yeah I'm not buying that one. Again it's still in the division 

You claimed that no team had improved in their division. New England and the Jets both improved (on paper). It looks like the Dolphins stagnated. That's why the feeling is there that they could regress. Doesn't mean they'll go 0-6 in the division. It just may not be as easy for them as last year, especially when you add in teams won't be overlooking them. 

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

Holding on every play or they weren’t taught the fundamentals. I thought his technique looked a little bad too.  Not as much into the pads and punch as one would like to see.  Early season rust.  When he is one his game, he is one of the best in the NFL.  

He didn't hold on every play and even when he did he'd let go pretty quickly. He did look stiff and he was doing a lot of waist-bending. He also got absolutely no push in the run game. What surprised me most was how little Barrett seemed to be trying. He looked like he was making no effort. Don't know why.

2 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

This is also a factor they kept brining him in to bail them out of close games. 

They are definitely going to be a hard team to judge. 

Yea agreed. I could see them being a 7 win team as their floor and depending on Tua another 10-11 win season. 

23 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

We traded out of #6 overall with them in this years draft so they could get Jaylen Waddle

I honestly keep forgetting they even have Waddle. 

9 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I personally think if they got a QB like watson (assuming he isn’t in prison) people look at that team entirely different. 

They would look at the Eagles totally different too

I'll be keeping track of this as best I can during the season.

For now, it's using the 2020 snaps per game as a placeholder.

FYI Dolphins schedule  With 2 against the Pats and Bills each, and games against the Bucs, Saints, Ravens and Colts that's a potential of 8 losses there. I say they could easily go 8-9....

Pats  

Bills 

Raiders 

Colts   😀 Could be a good two way win, Wentz plays well and Colts WIn.... 

Bucs 

Jags   

Falcons  

Bills 

Texans

Ravens 

Jets  

Panthers 

Gints 

Jets 

Saints 

Titans 

Pats 

 

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It's not surprising but it is a bit discouraging. Epps is a deep only guy. Harris is similar. I don't see Wallace being ready after missing so much time during TC. The D-line will really need to make an impact because I'm not sure who we have that they can realistically line up on Pitts. Ridley is going to get his, and Gage is an under the radar weapon for them. Add on I expect plenty of Mike Davis to wear everyone down against a team that has barely had any live tackling all offseason and have been trained to punch the ball out first... it could get really sloppy. 

The hope is that the d-line gets pressure on Ryan.  I do hope they focus on getting players down but could see a rookie like Pitts giving the ball up with contact.  Mike Davis averaged 3.9 yards per carry last season.  He could have a big game but I just don't think he's that punishing of a runner.  It's not like this is a young d-line or that young at LB.  I think Ridley and Pitts are challenging.  

23 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

You claimed that no team had improved in their division. New England and the Jets both improved (on paper). It looks like the Dolphins stagnated. That's why the feeling is there that they could regress. Doesn't mean they'll go 0-6 in the division. It just may not be as easy for them as last year, especially when you add in teams won't be overlooking them. 

Well let's put it this way, I don't think they improved in a way that that will make that much of an impact over last year. Both those teams are playing rookie QBs and we all know that can go down hill fast and make them worse then what they were. We have nothing to go off of other then a handful of preseason snaps for those rookies. 

Then again Tua can stay the same , regress or may have improved again we don't know. 

25 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said:

Yea agreed. I could see them being a 7 win team as their floor and depending on Tua another 10-11 win season. 

I have no desire to argue this so I can pound my chest if I'm right unlike some others in here lol. 

It's just my opinion on them I can be totally wrong and I still won't care about it lol. 

3 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

The hope is that the d-line gets pressure on Ryan.  I do hope they focus on getting players down but could see a rookie like Pitts giving the ball up with contact.  Mike Davis averaged 3.9 yards per carry last season.  He could have a big game but I just don't think he's that punishing of a runner.  It's not like this is a young d-line or that young at LB.  I think Ridley and Pitts are challenging.  

I see Pitts killing us.  Our d is not that good.  OUr O will need time to develop chemistry, New QB and WRs. New plays. 

 

36 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

You claimed that no team had improved in their division. New England and the Jets both improved (on paper). It looks like the Dolphins stagnated. That's why the feeling is there that they could regress. Doesn't mean they'll go 0-6 in the division. It just may not be as easy for them as last year, especially when you add in teams won't be overlooking them. 

I’ll disagree the Dolphins stayed stagnant. they signed fuller and drafted waddle to that offense. That’s a bunch of speed added to that offense. Say what you want about fuller before his suspension last year he was top 10 WR numbers. Granted with watson and not Tua but fuller has talent never been the issue. Health was always the issue. They really didn’t need to make huge moves on the oline cause cause drafted 3 olineman high last year and should improve by starting all those games and not in a pandemic offseason this year.

personally i think the Dolphins season basically come down to whether or not Tua is good or bad. If he’s good they will be good. If he’s bad they likely are competitive but still lose. It’s why i think their owner is hell bent on getting watson. 

Slay get ridley

bracket pitts

let the dline eat

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’ll disagree the Dolphins stayed stagnant. they signed fuller and drafted waddle to that offense. That’s a bunch of speed added to that offense. Say what you want about fuller before his suspension last year he was top 10 WR numbers. Granted with watson and not Tua but fuller has talent never been the issue. Health was always the issue. They really didn’t need to make huge moves on the oline cause cause drafted 3 olineman high last year and should improve by starting all those games and not in a pandemic offseason this year.

personally i think the Dolphins season basically come down to whether or not Tua is good or bad. If he’s good they will be good. If he’s bad they likely are competitive but still lose. It’s why i think their owner is hell bent on getting watson. 

Yes agree fuller has talent but I don’t think it’s just a coincidence that his healthiest season also saw him get busted for PEDs. We’ll see if he can stay healthy while being "clean”

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’ll disagree the Dolphins stayed stagnant. they signed fuller and drafted waddle to that offense. That’s a bunch of speed added to that offense. Say what you want about fuller before his suspension last year he was top 10 WR numbers. Granted with watson and not Tua but fuller has talent never been the issue. Health was always the issue. They really didn’t need to make huge moves on the oline cause cause drafted 3 olineman high last year and should improve by starting all those games and not in a pandemic offseason this year.

personally i think the Dolphins season basically come down to whether or not Tua is good or bad. If he’s good they will be good. If he’s bad they likely are competitive but still lose. It’s why i think their owner is hell bent on getting watson. 

Haha I think most teams fortunes are tied to their QB, but I know what you mean.

Theyre an enigma, could be wild card tram, could even win the division if things break perfectly, could just miss again or be a dumpster fire.

I think missing last year could give them extra motivation this year. But they could be smelling themselves with all the higher expectations too.

I just think the other three teams did more to improve, but we’ll see 

Is Gannon going to rotate the Dline?

Just now, TorontoEagle said:

Haha I think most teams fortunes are tied to their QB, but I know what you mean.

Theyre an enigma, could be wild card tram, could even win the division if things break perfectly, could just miss again or be a dumpster fire.

I think missing last year could give them extra motivation this year. But they could be smelling themselves with all the higher expectations too.

I just think the other three teams did more to improve, but we’ll see 

Agreed. I think they have a team that’s good enough talent wise at a bunch of different positions to actually be a playoff team with the biggest question mark they have at QB. Even last year when they missed the playoffs cause they lost games early to Denver and Buffalo cause their QB play was so bad for a large portion of those games. 

i think the reason why their owner is so hell bent on getting watson (again assuming he doesn’t go to prison) is because he believes they are a SB contender if he’s the QB. I mean realistically how many teams in the Afc are better than Miami if Watson is able to play and on the Dolphins? For sure the chiefs. Likely the bills assuming Allen plays like he did last year and not the first two years. Maybe the browns. After that I’d argue they are competing with the ravens, Steelers, colts. I think they are on par with them cause of their qb if were watson 

11 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Yes agree fuller has talent but I don’t think it’s just a coincidence that his healthiest season also saw him get busted for PEDs. We’ll see if he can stay healthy while being "clean”

For what they paid him and on a contract year i think it was a good move. I like their wr corps of Parker, fuller and waddle. Even Preston Williams is not a scrub. Has upside. Add on gesicki they gave Tua the weapons. I think their oline is a question mark but i expect better cause 3 rookies starting last year is gonna help cause they got experience and more normalized offseason this year. They are talented lineman just young and without a normal offseason last year. 

I’m really looking forward to seeing how Josh Sweat & Hargrave look Sunday. So much hype coming from those two

19 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Slay get ridley

bracket pitts

let the dline eat

And eat they will against that terrible OL and the statue of Matt Ryan. They won’t score more than 20 on us. 
 

Im way more concerned about our O starting slow given the lack of game reps.