Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yep.  And this is the only point that matters.  Getting away from this notion is easy when you get wrapped up in the results of a game. But it’s always best to come back to this.   

Yeah buddy. Time to go play kickball then drink 17 bud lights. No better way to spend a Friday night 

31 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I think it's clear that Sirianni wants a Luck/Rivers/Wentz type of offense.  They were interested in Zach Wilson, not Fields or Lance.

The "analysts" are wondering why Sirianni isn't helping Hurts succeed.  Well because tailoring the offense to Hurts doesn't help Sirianni build the scheme he wants to run with the next guy.

Queue Tyler Shough or Carson Strong 😀

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

I don't know if Sirianni sucks but he's not helping his QB.  I really don't think scheming people open in today's NFL is that hard. I think it's much harder to coach your players to execute the play.  

It seems like a lot of players are executing on offense. Except 1. You gonna blame Sirianna for that? That could be a huge mistake with permanent consequences. Theres an easy solution to determine which of them is the issue, with no permanent consequences.

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

It seems like a lot of players are executing on offense. Except 1. You gonna blame Sirianna for that? That could be a huge mistake. Theres an easy solution to determine which of them is the issue. 

Our OL is playing well, we've gotten TE production, we see Smith getting open, we're happy with Quez...

I guess Reagor really is the problem. 

4 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Not the worst LB on the team which is saying a lot.

 

I'm out on Taylor, way to weak and light. It's sad what this defense has become. JJ, Reggie, Waters, JB must all be rolling in their graves for what this regime has done to this defense. Pathetic and a shame really 

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Queue Tyler Shough or Carson Strong 😀

Strong would certainly seem to fit the type

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

Pretty accurate.  I thought he was the top DB at UCF in 2019.   

I like that he's know for toughness, has height and is a rookie so we have him cheap for awhile.  

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

Our OL is playing well, we've gotten TE production, we see Smith getting open, we're happy with Quez...

I guess Reagor really is the problem. 

Reagor if he catches the two PI balls against him is close to 100 yards and no one is complaining.

Having said that he needs to play better still.

 

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

There’s guys open on offenses all the time.  It doesn’t mean he’s some scheme genius.  

2 of your narratives at odds. If Howie, and the team are as bad as you make them out to be, then it probably requires some scheme genius to constantly have these guys open.

46 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I think it's clear that Sirianni wants a Luck/Rivers/Wentz type of offense.  They were interested in Zach Wilson, not Fields or Lance.

The "analysts" are wondering why Sirianni isn't helping Hurts succeed.  Well because tailoring the offense to Hurts doesn't help Sirianni build the scheme he wants to run with the next guy.

The thing that drives me nuts with the "why wont they help him" angle is this is all apparently stuff Hurts is comfortable with and wants. Sirianni said if there is something he or Steichen or Petullo like but Hurts doesn't, they scrap it. They only run stuff he likes. So either Sirianni is just lying or Hurts doesn't even know what he's good at. 

3 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He went the pick right before the Eagles took JaCoby Stevens.  So we took all the draft picks other than Stevens and Patrick Johnson over him.  Focusing specifically on MacPhearson in Round 4, whom they took at the same position - exactly 100 selections before Gowan was drafted.

Well, I liked Surtain, looking correct and I liked Farley pre back surgery (the Dickerson of CBs).  Not that I didn’t like Horn but I thought he would be over drafted and I think he was.  But on Day 2, I liked McPhearson and we got him Day 3.  I tagged him as a CB2.  Still think he may get there.  I really liked Gowan and figured Day 2 value that could drop to Day 3 because of his opt out. He is a little lean but I think he can muscle to the 190s pretty easily. Good speed and agility.  I was pissed that the Eagles took Marlon T over him so obviously Howie is trying to appease me. Way too late for that. Don’t overread his draft level, he is a potential player that I thought showed good instincts and play at UCF.  

Beast liked him too.  I remember discussing him predraft with him.  Caveat as always with college DBs. I see games on TV and don’t have the All22 for college games so you only see DBs part of the time.  

8 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Reagor if he catches the two PI balls against him is close to 100 yards and no one is complaining.

Having said that he needs to play better still.

 

That second one was something, and I have no idea who to blame. From the TV it looked like he just gave up on his route and then realized the ball was actually coming to him so he had to make up ground to get to it. Unless it was just an awful wobbly pass he had no idea where it was going I think the fault lays on Reagor. 

4 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

They shouldn't.  They might though.  I'd rather they stopped retiring numbers and just go with the Ring of Honor thing and create a space in the stadium to honor their (team) HoF players.  Retired numbers should be reserved only for the best of the best... greatest players of a generation type stuff.   

Reggie - yes.  Steve Van Buren - yes.  Bednarik - yes.  Dawkins - yes.  The rest?  Probably should have never been retired at all.  The rest are all worthy of inclusion in the team's commemoration and celebration of the past, but retirement just doesn't need to happen with everyone that's really really good.   They will run out of numbers if they continue to retire numbers so frequently.  BUT... they could go with 'Legacy' numbers.  86 could become the number of your best TE.  That would be more appropriate to me.

Individual players would hate that, but fans would die for it.

Heck, if I were a franchise great, I might enjoy seeing my number used as a badge of honor more than seeing it never used again.  

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

That second one was something, and I have no idea who to blame. From the TV it looked like he just gave up on his route and then realized the ball was actually coming to him so he had to make up ground to get to it. Unless it was just an awful wobbly pass he had no idea where it was going I think the fault lays on Reagor. 

What was weird was even though the DB interfered and held down his arm reagor still could of caught the ball.

In the end it didn't really matter as they get the yards either way, though reagor isn't credited with any yards nor is hurts or the offense.

I keep hearing about the "Sirianni system.” We need to see if fill in the blank can play in Siris system….  Wtf is the Sirianni system? Guy was a wr coach he doesn’t have any system.

29 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Individual players would hate that, but fans would die for it.

Heck, if I were a franchise great, I might enjoy seeing my number used as a badge of honor more than seeing it never used again.  

And then desecrated when your jersey heir gets caught up in a tweetstorm.

Michigan tried this.  It didn't really accomplish much.

https://www.michigandaily.com/uncategorized/8-michigan-issues-final-legacy-jerseys-27/

Man I thought Siriannis answer about identity was bad, then I hearts Hurts. Big oof 

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

I think a semi-competent QB would show that it works. 

 

There is no offensive system that will work to consistently win games where you pass the ball as much as we do.  We have 13 total runs by a RB in the first half of the past 4 games.  That isn't going to be any successful offense from the start of games teams don't have to worry at all about playing the run.  That's why it's such a benefit to play defense with the lead because then you can start to just rush the passer every down knowing you don't have to worry about the run.  

Hurts had a really bad game and after a game like that doesn't look like he is the long term answer at QB.  But it's blatantly obvious that Nick Sirinni is not the answer at HC either.  He has no idea what he is doing as a play caller.  This is the dumbest and most undisciplined team in the league.  There isn't one aspect of Nick Sirianni as a HC that has been a positive.  

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

There is no offensive system that will work to consistently win games where you pass the ball as much as we do.  We have 13 total runs by a RB in the first half of the past 4 games.  That isn't going to be any successful offense from the start of games teams don't have to worry at all about playing the run.  That's why it's such a benefit to play defense with the lead because then you can start to just rush the passer every down knowing you don't have to worry about the run.  

Hurts had a really bad game and after a game like that doesn't look like he is the long term answer at QB.  But it's blatantly obvious that Nick Sirinni is not the answer at HC either.  He has no idea what he is doing as a play caller.  This is the dumbest and most undisciplined team in the league.  There isn't one aspect of Nick Sirianni as a HC that has been a positive.  

Dont know till we see how it looks with Minshew.

4 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Thoughts on Kelce?

 

Or Peters?

 

People truly think we made it a game. They truly can't see that Tampa laughed themselves to sleep.

18 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Dont know till we see how it looks with Minshew.

 

We do know.   Consistently not making any attempt to run the football is not a formula to sustain winning in this league.  Especially when every other aspect of his coaching is failing with maybe the dumbest team in the league that keeps committing penalties at the rate that they are.  

27 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Man I thought Siriannis answer about identity was bad, then I hearts Hurts. Big oof 

Hurts is basically a walking talking cheesy sports movie quote...but he says it with swag.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The thing that drives me nuts with the "why wont they help him" angle is this is all apparently stuff Hurts is comfortable with and wants. Sirianni said if there is something he or Steichen or Petullo like but Hurts doesn't, they scrap it. They only run stuff he likes. So either Sirianni is just lying or Hurts doesn't even know what he's good at. 

 

The thing about this is Sirianni can and should be calling running plays.  Don't make every run a RPO.  Can actual run plays and mix them into your game plan.  Sanders is a playmaker at RB.  Gainwell has shown him to be excellent as a rookie but he didn't get a carry yesterday and only had one touch.  Sirianni can help the young struggling QB out by using his talented RBs by calling something that resembles a far more balanced offense than one that has only handed it off to its RBs 13 times total in the first half of the last 4 games.