39 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Dillard was #22, that's not that big of a reach.

In most drafts, there's a big falloff in the quality of players around #20, some years #18, some years #22.

So if they saw Dillard as belonging in the top tier, then a 4th and 6th is a small price.

Same with gambling on Dickerson, if he's a top 15 talent, it might take you two or more late 1st/2nd rd picks to land a player as good, so either way it's a gamble.

As far as anchoring at guard, JR again is a better source, but it's different than anchoring at OT, because the OT has to be light on his feet to seal the edge, he can be caught off balance by a bull rush, at OG, the DT is in a phone booth so it's more mano mano. Mathis was 305 and had no problem anchoring, Seumalo holds his own.

Dillard at #22 was not that big of a reach for someone with prototypical LT athleticism, even if it didn’t work out.  And Dickerson is not a top 15 talent.

7 minutes ago, metal said:

If memory serves they didn't meet with him because they didn't think he would be there. So he fell and we trade up to draft him. I guess the other teams knew something we didn't. Probably because they met with him. 

100% this. Ive been saying that since the athletic article came out where his coaches talked about some of the mental things he dealt with and his father/mother said he really didn’t love the game. If kapadia at the athletic was able to uncover this a month after the draft then the eagles didnt do their due diligence as they would’ve come across it. And if they did their due diligence and just took the risk then it’s not paying off so far. 

Besides the fact the negatives when he came out was he was an older prospect (23 turning 24 in his rookie year), never had to run block so that was a huge question mark in his game and he needed to add strength/bulk to his frame in the NFL. The between the ears things is likely what teams picking higher found during the draft process and combined with some other questions caused him to drop. I believe the Eagles in a press conference said they didn’t do as much background check cause they didn’t think he’d be there.

15 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

If the stripes were going the other way (Horizontal) it would remind me more of those old prison outfits with the black and white stripes. 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

The Eagles have elevated….

 

 

 

 

 

No one 

26 minutes ago, greend said:

He can barely play left tackle. I hope you are right but at this point I don't think you are

Barely able to play LT?  Based on what?  He and Toth at LG looked pretty good in the final PS game.   His three starts and some snaps replacing Peters in 2019.  He looked pretty good and I was impressed at his run blocking.  Walked away from that season saying he needed some strength and work on his anchoring.  Now I will give you that based on reports from the beats this summer that he may still need work on his anchor, but remember, we were hearing the same thing about Mailata from that same group last summer.  Mailata is starting his fourth season with Stout, Dillard his third.  Both spent a year on IR, limiting them from practice.  I think perhaps you are putting too much faith in the writings of some of the worst of the beat reporters covering the Eagles.  

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The Eagles have elevated….

 

 

 

 

 

No one 

So the NFL gives teams an opportunity at 2 extra players and the Eagles decide they don't need that?  No point in Jordan Howard in case Miles Sanders gets dinged up, which he's known for doing.  No need for Craig James or one of the other CB who have been with the system in case one of the new guys falls flat?  

This has Howie all over it again.

I thought the Hurts outfit looked like his Mom had made it from a table cloth or set of curtains, but left the legs too short because the material ran out.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

So the NFL gives teams an opportunity at 2 extra players and the Eagles decide they don't need that?  No point in Jordan Howard in case Miles Sanders gets dinged up, which he's known for doing.  No need for Craig James or one of the other CB who have been with the system in case one of the new guys falls flat?  

This has Howie all over it again.

Isn’t there a rule that you can only elevate a player something like 4 times a season? If so, it makes sense to save that for later in the year since the team is really healthy at the moment. 

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

So the NFL gives teams an opportunity at 2 extra players and the Eagles decide they don't need that?  No point in Jordan Howard in case Miles Sanders gets dinged up, which he's known for doing.  No need for Craig James or one of the other CB who have been with the system in case one of the new guys falls flat?  

This has Howie all over it again.

I think Riley should have been called up since they are pretty thin in the secondary. But even though you do get to call up two extra players, you have to deactivate two more. Since they are reasonably healthy I guess they liked the guys they have. 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Isn’t there a rule that you can only elevate a player something like 4 times a season? If so, it makes sense to save that for later in the year since the team is really healthy at the moment. 

I can see that argument but I'd be interested to know if they used the elevation opportunity for every game last year.  Just seems silly to me to not take advantage of being able to dress someone.

John Hightower? 

2 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

I thought the Hurts outfit looked like his Mom had made it from a table cloth or set of curtains, but left the legs too short because the material ran out.

That reminds me of when Carol Burnett did a spoof of Gone With the Wind.   Scarlett made a dress out of the living room curtains - with the curtain rod still in them.

4 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I couldn't see a team offering that, but I'd jump on it.  They still have Le'Raven Clark.  And they still have Toth to work on getting more out of his potential.  A 2nd rounder for Dillard would be too much to pass up.

A 2nd rounder? I'll help him pack AND drive him to the airport.

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Isn’t there a rule that you can only elevate a player something like 4 times a season? If so, it makes sense to save that for later in the year since the team is really healthy at the moment. 

No. I honestly can’t keep up what the rule even is because they spent months saying it was 4 max and then mid season someone said "actually it’s completely different.” In any case, I only know this because Eagles elevated McGill 5 times last year. 

2 minutes ago, Mortimer said:

That reminds me of when Carol Burnett did a spoof of Gone With the Wind.   Scarlett made a dress out of the living room curtains - with the curtain rod still in them.

Used to love watching that show.  Tim Conway was so great and hilarious.  His Dworf on sports series were pretty funny too.

2 minutes ago, DireWolf said:

Damn , how do you remember that?  I don't know where my keys are after 72 seconds. 

I only forget things that are important.

30 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

Just stop with this endless BS.

The problem with the drafting of Dillard is that they did not do their due diligence.

Gee... I wonder where the buck should stop with that decision?   But, it can't be Howie, because he's always so knowledgable about the value of different players... unless of course, its the players that the Eagles are targeting.  Then he's identified them, but can't seem to land them.  Shame he's the only one that has teams out maneuver him. 

Hey, remember when they wanted a Darren Sproles clone... and got beat to it by the Bears with Tarik Cohen... and the solution was to trade up for Donnell Pumphrey?   Good times...

 

 

Seems to me that the teams that had a chance at Dillard didn't like something about him and chose to pass on him.  And when he was sitting there for the Eagles to make a move, they weren't aware of why he was still there.  He was at the Senior Bowl, and so they had opportunity to find out more, but apparently they didn't see the need.  Always a good idea to trade up for a guy that you didn't actively investigate.

30 minutes ago, metal said:

If memory serves they didn't meet with him because they didn't think he would be there. So he fell and we trade up to draft him. I guess the other teams knew something we didn't. Probably because they met with him. 

So I looked it up just to make sure I wasn't misremembering. They did interview him at the Senior Bowl but did not bring him in as one of their 30 pre-draft visits. 

Exactly... they didn't do enough digging, because they didn't think he would be there.  And now they are looking at the fruit of that decision.

7 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I can see that argument but I'd be interested to know if they used the elevation opportunity for every game last year.  Just seems silly to me to not take advantage of being able to dress someone.

John Hightower? 

Last year yea, every week they used it because the injury report was pages long. But like I said you have to deactivate someone on the 53 if you want to bring someone up. Right now we have 2 out so only need to not dress 3 more. Let’s assume they don’t dress Minshew, McCain and Tuipulotu. Who next are you going to not dress to bring up a 6th WR who doesn’t bring anything special to the table or is particularly good at ST’s? 

18 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

So the NFL gives teams an opportunity at 2 extra players and the Eagles decide they don't need that?  No point in Jordan Howard in case Miles Sanders gets dinged up, which he's known for doing.  No need for Craig James or one of the other CB who have been with the system in case one of the new guys falls flat?  

This has Howie all over it again.

But, if they elevate someone, they burn one of the opportunities to elevate them later.  

13 minutes ago, eglz1 said:

A 2nd rounder? I'll help him pack AND drive him to the airport.

Yeah... I wouldn't anticipate that this will happen.

5 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

24 hours to go

I think hurts actually plays well in this one, not stellar but good enough to inspire enough hope to crush us when he looks bad next week.

260 passing yards, 2 TDs. 60 rushing yards and 1 TD

Credit to the ND QB for having his middle finger on his throwing hand dislocate on the final drive... not miss a snap and jump right back in there to throw a winning TD on the very next play.   I am not an ND fan, but a lot of respect for the toughness.    I bet he's feeling it now that the adrenaline has worn off.

Is Texas a&m’s Isaiah spiller related to CJ spiller?

Toledo wins that game if their quarteback didn't do a Michael Jacquet and run the ball into the endzone with a minute to go in the game. If he stops at the one, they can kneel it out and kick a chip shot field goal at the gun to win. Instead he scored to put them ahead and allowed the Irish a full minute to drive the length of the field for the winning score. Which is precisely what ends up happening. Sure, you want to go ahead, and scoring a touchdown feels great, but there are times when you need to process in the moment what you should be doing to give your team the best chance to win.

Notre Dame isn't good this year. The safety and tight end are special, and they have a senior wide receiver who looks like he could be a prospect. But the quarterback is ordinary and the offensive line is pretty poor.  

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Is Texas a&m’s Isaiah spiller related to CJ spiller?

Might be.  They have the same last name.