22 minutes ago, EagleMatt said:

Mentally soft, not physically. 

Oh yes my feelings are hurt. My lord, how old are you? 

she is in middle school

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Zach Ertz was also happy here until he wasn’t. Same thing with Jenkins. You could probably apply it to Schwartz too since he dipped and claimed health reasons but then signed on with another team a few months later. Scandrick was a bish but you can’t discount the fact he too saw things about this FO and Roseman to burn his bridge on the way out. 

Schwartz is working as a consultant for the Titans and his home is in Nashville. It’s a pretty cushy gig. 

Scandrick was a dude at the end of his career and tried to stir up controversy to start a media career. He sucked.

Ertz definitely was an odd case. He talked about apologies made on both sides, so it makes you think he was promised something and then it was reneged, and clearly he let it affect him. It seems good now. 

As for Jenkins, he wanted more money and security with one last decent contract. Howie was smart not to pay him, as he was with Ertz.

I don’t see a big issue with any of those outside of Ertz. 

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I don’t know maybe I’m upset an organization that allowed an idiot to go on Instagram and spout anti-semitic garbage. then say you know what we’re gonna make a go to the holocaust museum that will show him. And I would bet he never actually went so it was an erroneous BS they spun 

Maybe I’m upset by the fact the Eagles were dumb enough to wait a week before firing Doug so they were behind the eight ball with everyone doing their interviews and couldn’t really get the guy they truly wanted.

Or maybe I’m upset because they would’ve had a chance at staley who went to the chargers but Howie Roseman still was in charge because so no one who can get a better job wanted to work with him.

Or maybe I’m upset because last year they decided they told me they fix the wide receiving core meanwhile they had three rookoes in a pandemic with no off-season, jjaw who sucked his rookie year with no off-season, an injury prone desean, and injury prone Alshon Jeffery and only reliable wide receiver named Greg Ward heading into 2016.

Or maybe I’m upset because from the 2017 draft they likely have no one on the roster next year. Or maybe it’s the 2019 draft where they might only have miles sanders back next year. 

Or maybe it’s the constant restructuring of contracts are you getting stuck with aging injury prone players so they can’t go out and find anybody young to fill the spot to help in the rebuild.

or maybe it’s the constant restructuring of contracts and getting stuck with aging injury prone players so they can’t go out and find anybody young to fill the spot to help in the rebuild

Or maybe it’s because I said at the end of 2019 that run was fools gold and needed to do a rebuild. And they actually accepted that originally. And they were going to do a rebuild but then they went 180 and changed their mind because of pandemic year and three new coaches in the division so they can a meaningless crap division and get bounced as soon as they got to the playoffs and delayed the rebuild for a year. And even after that year they still didn’t trade guys or get rid of guys they needed too 

You seem upset. 

7 hours ago, John_C said:

I'm all about finding someone from an organization that adds talent consistently.  Unfortunately, Dallas is up there on that list.

The most important thing is that whoever is hired has full authority, and we don't hear nonsense about "collaborative approach" i.e. current owner/GM still running things, only with a new lackey.

This is a pipe dream, I'm not letting myself get too far ahead.  No way the owner/GM does the right thing.  The draft record is so abysmal, if he didn't make the change last year... he will run it back with the lackey, completely blow the most important draft they've ever had and hire yet another coaching staff.  Hopefully more "collaborative" guys loaded with emotional intelligence, perhaps with a sprinkling of whatever the new 2021-22 season NFL buzzwords will be.

What I really like about Dallas' approach to the draft is they just pick the best consensus player on the draft regardless of any other factor.

Micah, Ceedee, Martin, Zeke, Tyron Smith etc. They don't try to find any hidden gems, sleepers, under the radar players, or try to fit a need.

They just read the consensus around the league and draft the guy at the top of the board.

Wish we had that.

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Schwartz is working as a consultant for the Titans and his home is in Nashville. It’s a pretty cushy gig. 

Scandrick was a dude at the end of his career and tried to stir up controversy to start a media career. He sucked.

Ertz definitely was an odd case. He talked about apologies made on both sides, so it makes you think he was promised something and then it was reneged, and clearly he let it affect him. It seems good now. 

As for Jenkins, he wanted more money and security with one last decent contract. Howie was smart not to pay him, as he was with Ertz.

I don’t see a big issue with any of those outside of Ertz. 

You seem upset. 

Which also might apply to Goedert. 
 

It was smart not to sign Jenkins or Ertz to longtime extensions, but it also wasn’t exactly a clean break up with either. 

I just don’t understand the controversy with Ertz. He always sucked at blocking.  He was always a finesse, route running TE who simply got open better than 99% of the TEs in the nfl.  Once he had the ball in his hands, he was not an explosive, violent, yac guy….he went down like a WR.

Hes had the worst qb play in the nfl over 2020 and 2021…no one could get him the ball, so he became completely invisible.

Its as simple as that.  Ertz never changed, never quit. 

7 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

What I really like about Dallas' approach to the draft is they just pick the best consensus player on the draft regardless of any other factor.

Micah, Ceedee, Martin, Zeke, Tyron Smith etc. They don't try to find any hidden gems, sleepers, under the radar players, or try to fit a need.

They just read the consensus around the league and draft the guy at the top of the board.

Wish we had that.

They drafted Zeke with Jalen Ramsey on the board the BPA — that was an idiotic pick.  They also had to convince Jerry not to draft Johnny Manziel; coming away with Zach Martin was luck.

8 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I just don’t understand the controversy with Ertz. He always sucked at blocking.  He was always a finesse, route running TE who simply got open better than 99% of the TEs in the nfl.  Once he had the ball in his hands, he was not an explosive, violent, yac guy….he went down like a WR.

Hes had the worst qb play in the nfl over 2020 and 2021…no one could get him the ball, so he became completely invisible.

Its as simple as that.  Ertz never changed, never quit. 

It looked like his effort waned early in 2020. Maybe he sulked a bit. 

He was probably hurt that he made the two biggest catches in Eagles history and played with a lacerated kidney and had a new contract reneged upon (probably due to Covid helping kill the Eagles cap). 

I think it’s wild that people hold a short episode like that against him, as if he wasn’t an all-time Eagle. But what have you done for me lately, I suppose. 

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Which also might apply to Goedert. 
 

It was smart not to sign Jenkins or Ertz to longtime extensions, but it also wasn’t exactly a clean break up with either. 

Maybe I’m not remembering the Jenkins move clearly, but it seemed relatively clean. Ertz had some pot holes, but it ended smoothly enough. He clearly loves the organization, the city and the fans. 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

It looked like his effort waned early in 2020. Maybe he sulked a bit. 

He was probably hurt that he made the two biggest catches in Eagles history and played with a lacerated kidney and had a new contract reneged upon (probably due to Covid helping kill the Eagles cap). 

Inthink it’s wild that people hold a short episode like that against him, as if he wasn’t an all-time Eagle. But what have you done for me lately, I suppose. 

He's a Ring of Honor guy, no doubt.  All will be forgiven.   He left well.

That’s kinda funny. And another reason to not compare Goedert to him. 

29 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

You seem upset. 

I’m actually more irritated with people who can’t ever blame their own organization for the mess that has been created (not you). Meanwhile the Eagles have been a dysfunctional mess since they won that Super Bowl. And before they won that Super Bowl they were also a dysfunctional mess with a feud happen every 2-3 years. 2017 covers up a lot of the dysfunction and mediocre of this organization since they dealt away mcnabb. 

i just want to point out the Giants won a Super Bowl in the last decade. that does it mean they are not a dysfunctional dumpster fire organization since. The eagles are doing a bang up job following in their footsteps 

basically this 

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He's a Ring of Honor guy, no doubt.  All will be forgiven.   He left well.

A great Eagle, and a great philanthropist for Philadelphia. 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

That’s kinda funny. And another reason to not compare Goedert to him. 

I would argue he’s their best offensive playmaker on that team. And he’ll dominate for a drive or two and then they’ll manage to ignore him for the next 2.5 quarters. 

29 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Zach Ertz was also happy here until he wasn’t. Same thing with Jenkins. You could probably apply it to Schwartz too since he dipped and claimed health reasons but then signed on with another team a few months later. Scandrick was a bish but you can’t discount the fact he too saw things about this FO and Roseman to burn his bridge on the way out. It’s become a reoccurring theme.

To be fair I think this is a common thing in NFL and not exclusive to just the Eagles. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I would argue he’s their best offensive playmaker on that team. And he’ll dominate for a drive or two and then they’ll manage to ignore him for the next 2.5 quarters. 

My fantasy football team agrees with that assessment. 

8 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said:

To be fair I think this is a common thing in NFL and not exclusive to just the Eagles. 

With the ertz situation them not extending him and him being upset that is not my problem. That tends to happen with every organization. My problem is not many teams do you hear the general manager being on the practice field getting into a shouting match with such player over a contract dispute. Most organizations don’t have that leak out onto the practice field

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

My fantasy football team agrees with that assessment. 

Lol i have him in a fantasy league. It’s frustrating cause he’ll just be killing it. then they just ignore him for the 2 quarters and can’t move the ball. And at some point they all the sudden remember he’s on their team. it is exactly what happened in the jags and falcons games. 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Lol i have him in a fantasy league. It’s frustrating cause he’ll just be killing it. then they just ignore him for the 2 quarters and can’t move the ball. And at some point they all the sudden remember he’s on their team. it is exactly what happened in the jags and falcons games. 

His snap percentage is relatively low (67 percent) for his talent level because the Dolphins don’t use him on run downs or passes when they want to give a run look. He must be the absolute worst blocking TE. 

And with the Dolphins’ issues at WR you think they’d just roll him out for more snaps. Makes no sense. 

12 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Maybe I’m not remembering the Jenkins move clearly, but it seemed relatively clean. Ertz had some pot holes, but it ended smoothly enough. He clearly loves the organization, the city and the fans. 

It was over a year long dispute, he purposely skipped minicamps and only showed up to mandatory camps because Lurie promised they would negotiate, wrote a letter thanking Lurie, Doug, Shwartz but not Howie, ignoring Howies calls etc. He didn’t blast anyone outright but you could tell he wasn’t happy. 

18 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

They drafted Zeke with Jalen Ramsey on the board the BPA — that was an idiotic pick.  They also had to convince Jerry not to draft Johnny Manziel; coming away with Zach Martin was luck.

I didn't say Jerry picks the right players, I said Dallas does.

Them convincing Jerry to draft Martin over Manziel is testament to that.

And passing on Ramsey for Zeke isn't exactly worth crying about.

13 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said:

To be fair I think this is a common thing in NFL and not exclusive to just the Eagles. 

Not saying it isn’t, just saying because some players are happy to sign on and play one year doesn’t mean one or two years later they want out. 

Eagles fuch up next year's draft, and they'll be basement dwellers for the next decade.

No excuses with potentially three 1st round picks.

I mentioned after the team getting blasted by Dallas that Sirianni wearing the "Beat Dallas” shirt was stupid and gave unnecessary bulletin board material to the opponent. It was a Freddie Kitchens type of move.  And that if a month down the line if they were 2-5 or 2-6 that his motivational shtick would get tired. Well, here he is at 2-5 and showing the team pictures of a flower in team meetings and telling guys to be the soil or some crap like that. 
 

I expect them to lose to Detroit this weekend and Nick to officially lose the locker room with his corny salesman routine. 

 The Athletic has a good podcast on offensive and defensive schemes last year through 7 games there were about 6,500 snaps with a 2 high cover shell, this year it’s already at 7,400.
 Not all cover 2, just showing it pre snap.  
 5 man fronts or Bear fronts are up 10% this year (teams using a true 0 tech or NT) and 23% of all first downs this season have had a true NT.     
 It all comes from Staley’s success playing 2 deep to cut off the big play, and having 5 man D lines on running downs because the two deep can’t really help on the run.  Sorta helped having AD with the Rams.   
 Also shows why Donahue wanted McNeil in the draft for Gannon, and not Milton Williams. McNeil is 310-315lbs. 

28 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’m actually more irritated with people who can’t ever blame their own organization for the mess that has been created (not you). Meanwhile the Eagles have been a dysfunctional mess since they won that Super Bowl. And before they won that Super Bowl they were also a dysfunctional mess with a feud happen every 2-3 years. 2017 covers up a lot of the dysfunction and mediocre of this organization since they dealt away mcnabb. 

i just want to point out the Giants won a Super Bowl in the last decade. that does it mean they are not a dysfunctional dumpster fire organization since. The eagles are doing a bang up job following in their footsteps 

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