1 minute ago, Saltpeter said:

Who said Carson doesn't care about the Eagles?

if he doesn’t there’s a chance they lose to the jags with what else they have at QB. And that’s a huge blow to their playoff chances 

Just now, greendestiny27 said:

Maybe Halaby will join him 

He made the itinerary 

5 minutes ago, The Blackfish said:

 

 

 Gruden had final say on his players, Arnette had character concerns going into the draft and wouldn’t have been drafted by a lot of teams, it doesn’t help his 40 time was 4.56 in Indy.   Raiders scouts said they clocked him at 4.43 in the same run.  
 I’m not sure about Ruggs, other than him not being able to run routes.  

Tbh if Davis had his way i think gruden would still be the coach and i think he’d prefer bringing mayock back rather than paying him a buyout 

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 
Yup those lions and falcons teams are clearly the ones we are gonna face in the playoffs. So averaging 38 ppg against them 

against the current playoff teams we’ve faced 23.8 ppg. Wait let’s go a step further, eagles scored a meaningless Td in the Dallas game, garbage time td in the chiefs game, two garbage time tds in the raiders game (i didn’t even mention the Bucs game which you can tell they took their foot off the gas and just tried to get out of a Thursday night game without injury when up 28-7). So it’s now at 18.2ppg. Yup clearly the offense is good enough to win playoff games and not be stuck in purgatory where they put up yards and points against trash teams. I hope you like being stuck in purgatory with your meaningless stats that don’t account for garbage time stat padding . But I’m sure we will be able to roll through the nfc in future years with our QB averaging 15.5 throws per game like he has the last two weeks. That seems sustainable to winning at the highest level 

if you honestly think hurts is as good as watson then i don’t know what to say. You are under the impression if watson was here playing QB the eagles ppg wouldn’t be higher than 11th? That’s as bad of a take as Big Ben not being a franchise QB even though he was a top 10 QB in the league for a decade and has the 5th most wins in nfl history (and potentially could get to 4th). Say whatever you want if we had a QB doing that he’d be praised. Mcnabb barely made it to a decade for us that’s our longest tenured QB in the last 25 years 

And you don't think that's good? What do you think playoff teams average against other playoff teams?  You don't think they amass more points against weaker opponents?

Of course I don't think Hurts is as good of a passer as Watson. But you don't win by passing the ball, you win by scoring points and controlling the ball.

Big Ben hasn't been a  franchise QB for three seasons, what he did before that is irrelevant to his current status, yet he's still starting.

You build different teams around different QBs, the Ravens build around Lamar, if the Eagles go with Hurts, they'll build around his strengths and minimize his weaknesses.

Nor do you need a great passer to win SBs, of the last ten SBs, the loser scored 20 or more points only 5 times. Only twice did the losing team score 30 points.

The only shoot outs in that stretch, 2013:  34-31; 2015:  28-24;  2017: 34-28; 2018: 41-33. Flacco and Foles were QBs for the winning team in two of those games.

Is Hurts the answer? We'll see. If the team ends up in the top 10 in PPG, it's hard to argue against him, especially since he lacks great skill players or a defense that forces turnovers or gets the ball back to him.

I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty.

1 minute ago, austinfan said:

And you don't think that's good? What do you think playoff teams average against other playoff teams?  You don't think they amass more points against weaker opponents?

Of course I don't think Hurts is as good of a passer as Watson. But you don't win by passing the ball, you win by scoring points and controlling the ball.

Big Ben hasn't been a  franchise QB for three seasons, what he did before that is irrelevant to his current status, yet he's still starting.

You build different teams around different QBs, the Ravens build around Lamar, if the Eagles go with Hurts, they'll build around his strengths and minimize his weaknesses.

Nor do you need a great passer to win SBs, of the last ten SBs, the loser scored 20 or more points only 5 times. Only twice did the losing team score 30 points.

The only shoot outs in that stretch, 2013:  34-31; 2015:  28-24;  2017: 34-28; 2018: 41-33. Flacco and Foles were QBs for the winning team in two of those games.

Is Hurts the answer? We'll see. If the team ends up in the top 10 in PPG, it's hard to argue against him, especially since he lacks great skill players or a defense that forces turnovers or gets the ball back to him.

I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty.

The Eagles are 3-6.

Why do we lack skill players when we invested a 1st, 1st and a 2nd round pick in WR's, a 2nd round pick in RB and a 2nd round pick in TE?? Also played the majority of this year with an additional 2nd round TE. 

20 minutes ago, austinfan said:

And you don't think that's good? What do you think playoff teams average against other playoff teams?  You don't think they amass more points against weaker opponents?

Of course I don't think Hurts is as good of a passer as Watson. But you don't win by passing the ball, you win by scoring points and controlling the ball.

Big Ben hasn't been a  franchise QB for three seasons, what he did before that is irrelevant to his current status, yet he's still starting.

You build different teams around different QBs, the Ravens build around Lamar, if the Eagles go with Hurts, they'll build around his strengths and minimize his weaknesses.

Nor do you need a great passer to win SBs, of the last ten SBs, the loser scored 20 or more points only 5 times. Only twice did the losing team score 30 points.

The only shoot outs in that stretch, 2013:  34-31; 2015:  28-24;  2017: 34-28; 2018: 41-33. Flacco and Foles were QBs for the winning team in two of those games.

Is Hurts the answer? We'll see. If the team ends up in the top 10 in PPG, it's hard to argue against him, especially since he lacks great skill players or a defense that forces turnovers or gets the ball back to him.

I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty.

It is until you completely ignore the fact that they had 4 garbage time tds to get to 23.8 ppg.

Take away the 4 garbage time tds against Dallas, chiefs when down 42-23, and 2 against the raiders, they are averaging 18.2ppg. You think that’s good? i guess you live on the fantasy football world where garbage time tds matter. 

Last 5 SB winners all had offenses in the top 5 and could do it against the BEST teams in the league. And didn’t need garbage time stat padding to get to 23.8 ppg. Yet you are gloating about an inflated 23.8 ppg due to garbage time stats and without those garbage time stats at 18.2 ppg. Yes they are clearly winning a super bowl averaging 23.8 ppg with garbage time stats included. 

The problem is you are basically Reuben Frank that doesn’t look at context.  just keep ignoring the facts if you remove stat padding/garbage time against those playoff teams when the game was decidedly over their offense is 18.2ppg against those playoff teams which is bad and you aren’t a good offense. It could be worse if you wanted to include the tampa bay. Then you would be closer to 15.2ppg.  you are going to convince all of us that’s good? But please keep coming up with more irrelevant stats that you know are disingenuous and the tape tells you isn’t reflective.  

So you rather win ugly? So wins and losses matter right? So against those 5 playoff teams they are 0-5 due to the offense being bad for large stretches of those game. Down by 17 or more in every single one of those games besides the chargers game. and the defense also being bad for large stretches of those games. So it’s not just the offense. So they aren’t winning ugly.  THEY ARENT WINNING. Except when they play lousy teams where the offense and defense plays much better and don’t have to comeback from 17 points or more down 

** also he lacks great playmakers and a defense…. GUESS WHO’S FAULT THAT IS? Also pretty amazing who you completely flip flopped about how we had good talent from drafts a couple months ago to now we don’t have very good playmakers. Truly an amazing flip flop by you at your own convince. I eagerly anticipate if the eagles draft or trade for a QB to see you do a complete 180 

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/eagles-fans-voted-most-likely-to-start-and-win-a-fight-poll/

This explains a lot about this board😉

Shows why polls are pretty worthless. Eagles don’t have the record some teams have of stabbings, shootings in the parking lot.  That said, it explains a lot why cowpad fans quiver when I drive around Texas with PA plates, my Eagles sticker and license plate holder and my UH sticker. Stupid Dallas "fans” see a guy with a Texas background and an Eagles fan and pretty much figure this old man is probably armed and dangerous. 

16 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Why do we lack skill players when we invested a 1st, 1st and a 2nd round pick in WR's, a 2nd round pick in RB and a 2nd round pick in TE?? Also played the majority of this year with an additional 2nd round TE. 

Do we lack skill players? It would be nice to get a bigger WR and a feature back, but the lack of those players isn't inhibiting this offense. 

2 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Do we lack skill players? It would be nice to get a bigger WR and a feature back, but the lack of those players isn't inhibiting this offense. 

Just pointing out the circular logic of how Hurts isn't doing good because "we lack great skill players" yet Howie Roseman is actually pretty good at that draft and drafting players. 

4 hours ago, Green_Guinness said:

Depending how much time you want to spend and how much you want to do, you can either do Ireland/England on 2 different trips or package them together for one.  Back in 2012 I touched down in London the day after the Summer Olympics ended.  I took a pic of the Olympic rings hanging off Tower Bridge while a red double decker bus was right in the middle of the towers.  London is a great town.  I had a blast there.  The Underground is the most efficient thing I've ever experienced and will take you anywhere in the city.  The Wharf area around Tower and London Bridges has all kinds of pubs, eateries, and markets.  Shakespeare's Globe Theater is there as well.  Hyde Park is cool to hangout on a nice weather day.  The bus trip out of London to Stonehendge is worth it just to say you've been there.  It's smaller than it looks on TV/pics.  Still cool, though. 

I took a train from London to Hollyhead in Wales to take a ferry to Dublin.  Spent a few days there, which was my 2nd time in Dublin.  Stayed near the Temple Bar area for the pubs and eateries.  Visited Guinness' St. James Gate Brewery where you can just walk around the different areas at your own pace as they have audio introductions playing all the time providing info/history.  There's a few restaurants you can grab lunch or dinner and the Gravity Bar at the top floor, a circular bar with windows so you get a 360 view of Dublin, is worth stopping to hangout and enjoy your free pint (you get a voucher for either a free pint at the Gravity Bar or can use it to learn how to pour a perfect pint and get a certificate with your name on it).  Nice golf courses around the city you can get to by bus (first visit) and an artisan street of musicians and craft shops on a pedestrian street was interesting.  First trip we flew to Shannon then stayed south moving from West to East to Dublin then hitting Galway on the way back to Shannon.  Lots of old castles to see in the South.  Blarney Castle has a very big estate that's quite beautiful with a botanical garden full all sorts of flowers/bushes/trees.  And the scenery driving through the country, though most especially in the South, is just beautiful. 

I would try to do both if I got the chance again, though I'd want to visit Liverpool as well.  Several years ago Big Daddy Graham was sharing his experiences on his UK trip and said how Liverpool reminded him a lot of Philly.  Plus, I've heard since then that they've really built up certain areas nicely making it a better tourist attraction.

Both have corrupt Mayors? 🤣

Arians being Arians

 

31 minutes ago, austinfan said:

I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty.

Would you rather lose ugly?  There's been plenty of those this year.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Just pointing out the circular logic of how Hurts isn't doing good because "we lack great skill players" yet Howie Roseman is actually pretty good at that draft and drafting players. 

In the end, the possibilities are:

Howie will fool another team into buying Afan's point of view on Hurts, or

Howie will fool himself into buying Afan's point of view on Hurts

 

What I see right now is Sirianni observed quite clearly Hurts cannot operate a pass-heavy offense.  He got tired of the media and fans blaming his scheme, so he adjusted to the opposite end of the spectrum -- now the Eagles are a run-heavy (run-reliant) offense, but the QB still insists on trying to lead the team in rushes and rushing yards. 

At some point (likely after the season) Nick will need to make a decision -- either tell Howie "I can't run my offense with Hurts at QB", or "I will develop a scheme around Hurts at QB".  If I had to wager my guess will be the Eagles will pursue a QB Sirianni and Steichen feel fits their scheme.

1 hour ago, schuy7 said:

Love how Reuben Frank and others say we still need so much more time to evaluate Hurts clearly, but also that we absolutely know Minshew isn't the answer. Hurts has started 13 games, Minshew has started 20. Are those 7 games that big of a difference? 

Roob became a joke a while ago

38 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

The Eagles are 3-6.

0-5 against teams currently in the playoffs. 

wait we had a meaningless td against Dallas down 41-14

we had a meaningless td down 42-23 with 11 seconds left 

2 tds against the raiders when down 30-7 then down 33-14 in the fourth Qtr.

also take away a defensive td in the Dallas game which i forgot about.   

so they’ve scored 112 points on those games which is 22.4 points on average in those games. Then take away those garbage time tds along with the defensive td it’s on average 16.8 points. I don’t know what universe anyone thinks that’s good enough against playoff caliber teams. Great we can score meaningless tds to make it appear closer and like we aren’t a bad offense against better competition. However when you watch the all 22 it shows you for a majority of those games they aren’t nearly as good as 11th in the league because the atlanta and lions games skew everything 

 

37 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Why do we lack skill players when we invested a 1st (Smith... Howie takes the credit), 1st (Reagor - Howie listened to Doug rather than the scouts) and a 2nd round pick (JJAW - Howie had to bow to Lurie's draft choice) in WR's, a 2nd round pick in RB (Sanders - can't stay healthy, fault of the medical team) and a 2nd round pick in TE (Goedert - Howie had to troll Dallas in Dallas by selecting Dallas)?? Also played the majority of this year with an additional 2nd round TE(Ertz - Howie was held hostage as Ertz refused to play in 2021, except that he didn't). 

Well... let's rewrite this with names and who's to blame... 

 

You forgot to mention the 2nd round pick on another RB...err.... I mean QB.  That was Doug's fault too.

26 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I can guarantee that if the Raiders finish .500 or better, Mayock is not getting fired. 

Best thing to happen for Mayock's job security might have been the ousting of Gruden.

16 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Just pointing out the circular logic of how Hurts isn't doing good because "we lack great skill players" yet Howie Roseman is actually pretty good at that draft and drafting players. 

Lol exactly. Like he boasts about howie drafting well then blames hurts inabilities on the lack of quality players we have. So talking out of both sides of his mouth when those two things contradict one another. I have no ill will towards afan but each passing day he comes up with more stats he knows are erroneous because if you actually watch the games and all 22 it would tell you it. He’s become Reuben Frank where you can use to stats that don’t accurately reflect what you see on film 

4 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Roob became a joke a while ago

Or as I know him, Roob the Boob.  He's a strange one, that man.

1 minute ago, UK Eagle said:

Or as I know him, Roob the Boob.  He's a strange one, that man.

He will put out whatever he has to in order to keep his job/access

Just got a fantasy notification that Smith is questionable with an elbow injury?

When did that happen?

 

2 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

He will put out whatever he has to in order to keep his job/access

Totally. I saw 5 mins of the podcast he does and was like, nah, I'm out.

2 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

Just got a fantasy notification that Smith is questionable with an elbow injury?

When did that happen?

 

Really look forward to the trio of Watkins, JJAW and reagor on Sunday 

1 minute ago, UK Eagle said:

Totally. I saw 5 mins of the podcast he does and was like, nah, I'm out.

It’s a shame cause zangaro is actually good. Frankly i think if zangaro and Berman teamed up they would likely have the most boring podcast but likely the most honest and informative 

2 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

Just got a fantasy notification that Smith is questionable with an elbow injury?

When did that happen?

 

Today, apparently.

 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Really look forward to the trio of Watkins, JJAW and reagor on Sunday 

Yuck.

Give Howard 25+ carries. 

Hope Smith can play. Really liked what I saw last week. And he single handedly won my week in the money league.

1 minute ago, metal said:

Today, apparently.

 

Too much shoveling in the garden hurt his elbow