Just now, WentzFan11 said:

I’m not taking their side, but getting them to leave is first priority, not killing them. 

Do you have kids or a family?

If so, I have no idea how you can take this position, but do you.

I have the guns and the training, and I will use it on anyone that forces their way in my house.

35 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

nope. Cops werent doing ish, government werent doing ish. They still arent doing ish. 

People have done this(showed up to riots/looting) with thier own guns to protect themselves, friends, stores, etc etc. (rooftop Koreans) Locally we actually had African Americans protecting themselves in Camden against other African Americans. (which is why nothing got crazy here)

The problem is a couple people F****'ed around and found out.

i'll go one step further.. IF* there were MORE Rittenhouses there'd be a lot less looting/rioting/crime. 

 

I'd also like to see some charges towards the media. They encouraged this. they egged the people on and then they lied about it. 

Maybe just maybe more fear is being stoked on both sides to sow dissent and increase hostility towards fellow Americans.  So your fear of protestors, property damage and violence is maybe not in line with the actual damage of the protests.  Just like a fear of police violence and prosecution is out of line with the chances of an encounter where someone's rights are violated.  

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Yikes. 

Hang 'Em High.

11 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Not that anyone cares, but my timeline on Reagor:

I initially liked him as a prospect before doing any homework because he and Ruggs were considered the two speedsters of the draft.  Then he royally flubbed the combine.  I figured, what good is a speed WR who didn't produce much in college and couldn't even put up the raw numbers at the combine?  2nd or 3rd round.

Then I wanted his college tape a bit more...his elusiveness and deep speed really were impressive.  The Eagles desperately needed speed on offense.  Desperately.  Then his totally fabricated 4.2 gps pro day.

The Eagles really wanted Ruggs, who went much earlier than anyone expected.  Because they were basically humiliated into adding speed on offense, Howie panicked into drafting Reagor, since he was the next best speed WR prospect on the board.

Much like Maclin, Reagor just isn't nearly as fast as his college tape would lead you to believe.  That's why they have you run equalizing drills at the combine (Maclin disappointed there too).  Maclin, however, didn't have a lousy attitude and became a polished, quality route runner.  Reagor is just a slower than expected raw player who runs bad routes.

In hindsight, it wasn’t the 40 time that was concerning. I truly don’t believe he’s a 4.47 guy, and I think the in-game GPS backs that up. Instead, I think the decision-making behind putting on all that extra weight was a red flag. It showed a lack of intelligence, and makes you question his approach. The most alarming of his tests were in the agility drills. It showed a lot of stiffness.

He was raw as a route runner, but most college receivers are. I don’t worry about that because I trust teams to do the digging to determine why it is — how he’s coached, work ethic, coachability, whatever. 

He just doesn’t seem to have it between the ears. He flashes nice routes from time to time, but there’s no consistency or game over game improvement. 

15 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

No midnight snack?  

More like 2 am when I wake up to pee

16 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

13 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

No, good offenses tend to not get down 17 plus points in 4 of their 5 games against playoff teams. They tend to be consistent throughout not pile on when down three scores. Eagles have done that 80% of their games against playoff teams  please show me all the top 5 offenses compiling garbage stats when down 3 scores in the 4th  in 80% of their games against playoff teams. 

you’re right Jalen hurts clearly comparable to rookies. He only had an entire year in the league going into a second year. 4 1/2 games played. He’s got to learn from nfl coaches at the NFL level for an entire year and offseason. had an entire offseason in knowing what to expect and an entire offseason to work on his faults at the nfl level. Being with his organization for over a year. but yup clearly the same as rookie QBs. Keep making those lame ass excuses even though that was never brought up in our convo. But hey you deflect like always because you know your inflated stats are BS

At this point I’m putting you on ignore because what you write is howie fluffing or excuse making or inflated stats you know the the all 22 and film shows otherwise. Just cause you write an novel doesn’t mean anyone buys what you are selling.  Have a good life Dave spindaro. 

You just don't like Hurts. This season has been all learning curve, new HC, new OC, new scheme. 4th scheme in 4 years for Hurts. OL musical chairs, with two inexperienced starters playing new positions. Best RB hurt, 3 inexperienced WRs. So you expected things to start out smoothly?

He did work on his faults, Hurts is more accurate this year with better mechanics, but these things take time, or would you have cut Allen after 16 games?

Some QBs have instant success, but many needed 2-3 years to emerge as solid starters. Bad franchises panic, and play QB merry-go-round, then wonder why they waste so many high draft picks on QBs that never work out.

That why I refrain to jump to conclusions, I said before the season the key was how Hurts progressed over the course of the year, because with a young QB, what you're looking to see if they are climbing the learning curve. We have 9 more games, the OL is much better, the schedule gets easier, so we'll get a good read on his progress.

2 hours ago, greend said:

Fair enough, I haven't watched the trial and I have no rooting interest other than the truth, which doesn't seem to matter to either side anymore.

There should be no 'sides'. 

 

2 hours ago, greend said:

I would say some do. (Not as many as before the season though)

Last season he was the backup.  Now he's the starter.  Backup QBs are always more popular when the starter is struggling.   Minshew sitting there as such a popular figure right now.  

 

33 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

No one is a finished product coming out of college.  Fact is he has shown improvement from year one to year two.  He has clearly put in work and continues to do so.  Young developing players will go through highs and lows.  Just because he still has some areas to work on does not mean that the improvements he hasade should be completely tossed aside as meaningless.  When this blog spent all offseason attacking Hurts for his completion %, fumbling and ability to score points in the second half and he across the board makes major strides in all of those areas then he deserves credit.  But predictably he gets none and instead just new complaints for people to solely focus on. 

If he can regularly make those throws and step up in the pocket instead of spinning around, people will complain less.  There's a range of outcomes for Hurts.  I would think it's great if he continues to improve.  I have just seen more of his limitations show up than his strengths.  He wasn't the reason they lost the Chargers game but a better passing QB could have been a reason they won.  

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

 

Good for him.  

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

If he can regularly make those throws and step up in the pocket instead of spinning around, people will complain less.  There's a range of outcomes for Hurts.  I would think it's great if he continues to improve.  I have just seen more of his limitations show up than his strengths.  He wasn't the reason they lost the Chargers game but a better passing QB could have been a reason they won.  

Good for him.  

Good for us!

1 minute ago, austinfan said:

You just don't like Hurts. This season has been all learning curve, new HC, new OC, new scheme. 4th scheme in 4 years for Hurts. OL musical chairs, with two inexperienced starters playing new positions. Best RB hurt, 3 inexperienced WRs. So you expected things to start out smoothly?

He did work on his faults, Hurts is more accurate this year with better mechanics, but these things take time, or would you have cut Allen after 16 games?

Some QBs have instant success, but many needed 2-3 years to emerge as solid starters. Bad franchises panic, and play QB merry-go-round, then wonder why they waste so many high draft picks on QBs that never work out.

That why I refrain to jump to conclusions, I said before the season the key was how Hurts progressed over the course of the year, because with a young QB, what you're looking to see if they are climbing the learning curve. We have 9 more games, the OL is much better, the schedule gets easier, so we'll get a good read on his progress.

 

Hurts is a great athlete, person, and player, but he is just not a great passer. I was all onboard in the offseason. He said all the right things and put in a ton of extra work. I really wanted Hurts to succeed and do well.

I don't get the OL musical chairs angle. This OL is top 10 even with all of the injuries. Hurts holds onto the ball way too long, even the best OL would have trouble blocking for him. Zach Wilson is the only QB that takes longer to throw the ball than Hurts.

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Thank you, Carson.

Can you imagine how unhinged this place would be if we ended up with the lower pick because he had a child mid-season.  Whoa, baby!

Just now, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

Thank you, Carson.

Can you imagine how unhinged this place would be if we ended up with the lower pick because he had a child mid-season.  Whoa, baby!

It would be hilarious to see him take a six week paternity leave. 

A few odds and ends.

On the missed throw to a wide-open Goedert Hurts was throwing out of a well.

Dickerson is really coming on. He had some great run blocks and is very aware on pass pro.

Now that Mailata has ditched the knee brace he can do multiple kick steps. On one play in the first half he did four (count 'em - 4) kick steps in a single pass pro. That's insane. Probably gave Stoutland an orgasm.

Carson "F them kids" Wentz 

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

There should be no 'sides'. 

 

one of the drawbacks of the adversarial system in criminal prosecution is that prosecutors are evaluated on wins vs. losses.  In most states, they have incredible leverage over defendants.  It creates an unfair playing field that can become more focused on a criminal result vs. truth.  

36 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

He was barely out of the pocket and had a lot more time than I guess he thought.  Hell, he could have ran and possibly made it to the EZ.  His footwork was really bad, that's for sure.  But if you look at this motion, it's exactly what I have been talking about with his lack of arm talent.  It's a sweeping over the top motion.  Where a top NFL QB with a live arm would sling it....almost with their wrist while keeping the elbow closer to the body.    He doesn't have the arm and mechanics to make that throw with zip.  Anything more than 10-20 yards, he needs to step into. His motion looks like when he heaves the ball down the field for 60 yards.....and we know he can do that.  

True, no doubt about it, and what you’re talking about is first in Cosell’s report from college in terms of weaknesses.  He can’t be accurate with his throwing motion, and I don’t disagree, my point isn’t necessarily his bad footwork on that particular throw, it’s his constant wasted movement in the pocket as well, making him inaccurate and missing open receivers because he doesn’t know they’re open. 
 You likely don’t remember but I’m pretty sure it was you and I (under a different name) that had this same conversation about Paxton Lynch and we didn’t like him in the 3rd round, much less the 1st because of his super long wind up on every pass, not exactly the same with Hurts, but close. 

4 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Good athlete 

Person?  Sure. I guess.  How are we to know? 
 

Player?  No chance.  That would require him to be good at his job, which he isn’t.  
 

I also don’t get the Zach Wilson comment.   I guess I’ll have to go look again.  

More so pointing out that Hurts holds onto the ball so long that it's tough to block. Zach Wilson was the only QB I found this season with a longer time to throw, and any of the QB's that take more than 3 seconds to throw are not QB's anyone would call great passers.

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#average-time-to-throw

1 hour ago, greend said:

BTW thanks to all the vets and active members of the armed forces that post here. Without you guys I just might be typing another language. Thanks for putting your all on the line for me!

You'd likely not be typing at all on a place like this... with free expression.  

 

Thanks to our vets.

45 minutes ago, austinfan said:

You just don't like Hurts. This season has been all learning curve, new HC, new OC, new scheme. 4th scheme in 4 years for Hurts. OL musical chairs, with two inexperienced starters playing new positions. Best RB hurt, 3 inexperienced WRs. So you expected things to start out smoothly?

He did work on his faults, Hurts is more accurate this year with better mechanics, but these things take time, or would you have cut Allen after 16 games?

Some QBs have instant success, but many needed 2-3 years to emerge as solid starters. Bad franchises panic, and play QB merry-go-round, then wonder why they waste so many high draft picks on QBs that never work out.

That why I refrain to jump to conclusions, I said before the season the key was how Hurts progressed over the course of the year, because with a young QB, what you're looking to see if they are climbing the learning curve. We have 9 more games, the OL is much better, the schedule gets easier, so we'll get a good read on his progress.

Yup that clearly is it. Congrats you’ve morphed into RTK with that weak ass comment. 

Just like you don’t like facts like garbage time stats inflate your numbers. Or the fact you tell me all good offenses get down 3 scores or more in games against playoff teams in 80 percent of their games against playoff team. I’m still waiting for you to show me that the top five offenses in the league find themselves down 17 points or more in Four of five games against playoff team scoring garbage time touchdowns. You wont find it because I looked  up too 5 offense. None have that percentage so you’re full of crap 

again you’re going to be impressed with a beating lousy teams.  the Detroit Lions, the Atlanta Falcons, the New York Giants andthe Washington football team magically gonna make the playoffs so we don’t go down 17+ points and can score consistently against playoff caliber teams.We’ve seen them be able to put points up against bad teams .When you take away the garbage time stats and defensive touchdowns they averaging 16.8 points per game in those playoff team games. Yeah you don’t wanna except that because you make this is what every other team is doing that.  Yet your excuse is every good offense is doing it  

Yes clearly Jalen hurts is the same quarterback as Josh Allen. You’re right he has the same talent as Josh Allen. as one of the only people on this board that said Josh Allen would be a good pro the only thing Jalen hurts has in common with him is that they both came into the league with accuracy problems and they could run. Otherwise Allen’s arm is on a whole other planet then Jalen hurts and his athleticism is better than hurts. And he was a more talented prospect you know what’s great about you and telling her first to try to convince me for a year that he was only drafted to be a back up. And now it’s oh no he’s a high-quality starter. So you’re full of crap when you keep Fing changing your narrative to fit what you want. Just like you got called out yesterday for saying something and then saying you didnt when is it black-and-white that you did.

you know what bad franchise’s do? also to keep a general manager in place that has had more feuds with coaches and staff in a ten-year period then 10 win seasons. you know what they also to keep the guy who had three of the four drafts where they have next to nothing contributing at a high-level.

28 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

There should be no 'sides'. 

 

True, but there are

"Super Bowl MVP" Super Scam might be re-joining the Panthers.  How exciting!!!

2 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

"Super Bowl MVP" Super Scam might be re-joining the Panthers.  How exciting!!!

You say Super Bowl MVP?!