3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Against the Eagles.  Playing in Mile High.  They should be favored by more than 2 1/2.  Home team gets 3 points no matter what.  So they’re saying on a neutral field he Eagles would be 1/2 point favorites.  Or they would be Even?  No chance. Broncos are an average team, playing a bad team in that altitude.  Not sure we have many guys who have ever played a game in that altitude.  

Idk i could see a massive letdown game by the broncos after last week. Seen that team in a dogfight against Washington at home two weeks ago. 

also last 2 weeks underdogs against the spread have covered 20 out of 29 games. 

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Against the Eagles.  Playing in Mile High.  They should be favored by more than 2 1/2.  Home team gets 3 points no matter what.  So they’re saying on a neutral field he Eagles would be 1/2 point favorites.  Or they would be Even?  No chance. Broncos are an average team, playing a bad team in that altitude.  Not sure we have many guys who have ever played a game in that altitude.  

I think it’s winnable for the Eagles. They’ve been playing better and nothing about the Broncos team is threatening other than being a good defense. I think they’re without Surtain though. 
 

I think the game mostly depends on how well the Broncos rookie RB performs 

11 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

How did the Ravens only score 3?

FYP

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

No he’s top 10 based off yards for 6 years now. So he’s top 10 if we are anointing people by yards and where they sit. And we just remove all context about when we get yards then he’s definitely top 10 cause his yards are yard say so. 

 

I'm not anointing by yards though.  I'm pushing back on the ridiculous notion that Hurts' rushing yards don't matter.  Yards aren't the end all be all but they do matter.

 

Also you need to quit it with this absurd narrative you and others are trying to push that the bulk of Hurts production has come from 2 of 36 quarters played this season.  

6 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

You watching lamar suck again tonight?

 

No, I'm watching the Sixers try to win a close one.  

11 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Eagles scored a TD to make the chiefs game a 5 point game just minutes into the 4th quarter.  The only drive for the Eagles that was garbage time in that game was their final drive of the game which was a TD drive.  

49ers was not a garbage time game.  That was a 4 point game entering the 4th quarter.  When Hurts and the Eagles offense last stepped off the field with over 4 minutes left in the game it was 6 point game.  And you can't really argue the Bucs game because Hurts and the offense made that a 6 point game with just under 6 minutes left in the game but never touched the ball again.  Are you noticing a trend here?  Let's look at this past Sunday when Hurts and the offense tied the game with over 6 minutes left in the game but never touched the ball again.  Hurts is playing well enough in the second half to give the Eagles a chance in those 3 games but the defense is coming up very short when it comes time for them to make one final stop to give the offense a chance to win the game.  

 

Dallas and Raiders were the only games where the game was out of hand come the 4th quarter.  

The trend is that the Eagles offense can't score early and when the opponent gets a comfortable lead, that's when 'the magic happens'.  Better than last year with Hurts, I guess.  Last year, they couldn't score in the second half.  Now they just can't seem to score in the 2nd and 3rd quarters... and save it all for the 1st and 4th.

6 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

I'm not anointing by yards though.  I'm pushing back on the ridiculous notion that Hurts' rushing yards don't matter.  Yards aren't the end all be all but they do matter.

 

Also you need to quit it with this absurd narrative you and others are trying to push that the bulk of Hurts production has come from 2 of 36 quarters played this season.  

 

No, I'm watching the Sixers try to win a close one.  

No you need to quit with this narrative he’s only had 2 quarters. I’m not even basing it off quarters I’m basing it on the eagle being down 3 or more possessions and teams allowing him to move the ball to kill clock. when he scores a touchdown down 19 with just 11 seconds and drives 75 yards the Chiefs that is the definition of garbage time stats. Or when they got down to 27 to 7 against the Dallas Cowboys after a pick six that is garbage time stats after that point in the game. Or when you are down 30-7 that’s garbage time stats. I hate to break it to you 21% of his stats have come when they’ve been down 3 scores or more and that’s without tampa. But YaRdS aRe YaRdS! 

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The trend is that the Eagles offense can't score early and when the opponent gets a comfortable lead, that's when 'the magic happens'.  Better than last year with Hurts, I guess.  Last year, they couldn't score in the second half.  Now they just can't seem to score in the 2nd and 3rd quarters... and save it all for the 1st and 4th.

 

I guess now we knock the kid for playing his best at the end of games, despite the fact that out of 9 games the game was only out of hand heading into the 4th in 2 of those 9 games.  After all summer long of people obsessing all summer over how they believed that the Hurts and the offense can't score in the 2nd half of games.  

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

I guess now we knock the kid for playing his best at the end of games, despite the fact that out of 9 games the game was only out of hand heading into the 4th in 2 of those 9 games.  After all summer long of people obsessing all summer over how they believed that the Hurts and the offense can't score in the 2nd half of games.  

Keep telling yourself that.

Hanging with the Bills and now tonight, the Dolphins can easily win another few games - especially in the upcoming 4. Hopefully it stays a top 5 pick.

Denver is a real toss up game for me. I can see how their physicalness and ability to stop the run can be an issue for this team. They also clearly aren’t as good as they played last week. At home I think they would have a better chance but on the road sways me towards them winning. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

No you need to quit with this narrative that when he scores a touchdown down 19 with just 11 seconds and drives 75 yards the Chiefs that is the definition of garbage time stats. Or when they got down to 27 to 7 against the Dallas Cowboys after a pick six that is garbage time stats after that point in the game. Or when you are down 30-7 that’s garbage time stats. I hate to break it to you 21% of his stats have come when they’ve been down 3 scores or more and that’s without tampa. But YaRdS aRe YaRdS! 

 

I've been continuously stating that the last TD in the Chiefs game was garbage time.  There hasn't been a time where I refuted that.  However their first TD of the quarter, just minutes into it made the game a 5 point game.  A 5 point game with just under 13 minutes left to play is not a game out of hand.  It fell out of hand over the course of that 4th quarter as the Chiefs then went 2-2 on TD drives (scored TD drives on every drive that game except one) and the Eagles went 1-2 on TD drives the rest of the way after their first TD of that 4th quarter.

 

Again, never has there been a time that I refuted the Dallas game garbage time.

 

Tampa wasn't garbage time.  Hurts and the offense made that 6 point game with just under 6 minutes left in the game.  They never touched the ball again.  When you are only down 6 points with just under 6 minutes left in the game then you are in the game.  The reasonable expectation is for your defense to make a stop to get the ball back to your offense for a chance to win the game, not to let the other team's offense bust out a 5:54 second drive to run out the clock.  

I guess what I'm understanding is that you have a loser mentality where if you get punched or go down then you quit.  So you want a QB that just quits when down and doesn't continue to play and put his team back into a position where they can win the game, which is what occurred in that Bucs game.  

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Keep telling yourself that.

 

It's the fact.  It isn't garbage time when you put your team back into position to win the game with plenty of time to do so only for the defense to disappear at end game crunch situations.  The only time the defense and offense both showed up in the 4th of a close game was the Panthers game.  

2 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Hanging with the Bills and now tonight, the Dolphins can easily win another few games - especially in the upcoming 4. Hopefully it stays a top 5 pick.

The dolphins besides the first bills game and tampa game have been in every game. The second bills game buffalo added a touchdown with a minute left to drive it up to 15. 

28 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

If I was still a betting man.  I’d hammer a bundle on Denver.  Heard -2 1/2 today. That’s another ridiculous line in an Eagles game this year.  

Meh.  Scrambles around takes too many shots.  Decent arm. Nothing special.  Baker-lite

I think he’s got a better head on his shoulders than Baker, a short Joe Burrow, plus their arm strengths are similar.   He hasn’t spent years in an Air Raid only offense which should help him in the NFL, but it has taken him 4 years at Pitt to be considered as a serious NFL prospect. 
 Of course there’s this, Burrow is 6’4” and has 9” hands. Russel Wilson is 5’11” and has 10.25” hands. 

So psyched about Kamo’oalewa.  

Ravens play calling is terrible tonight 

Take it out of Lamar’s hands and pitch it to the dinosaur on a 3rd & 5

15 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

I've been continuously stating that the last TD in the Chiefs game was garbage time.  There hasn't been a time where I refuted that.  However their first TD of the quarter, just minutes into it made the game a 5 point game.  A 5 point game with just under 13 minutes left to play is not a game out of hand.  It fell out of hand over the course of that 4th quarter as the Chiefs then went 2-2 on TD drives (scored TD drives on every drive that game except one) and the Eagles went 1-2 on TD drives the rest of the way after their first TD of that 4th quarter.

 

Again, never has there been a time that I refuted the Dallas game garbage time.

 

Tampa wasn't garbage time.  Hurts and the offense made that 6 point game with just under 6 minutes left in the game.  They never touched the ball again.  When you are only down 6 points with just under 6 minutes left in the game then you are in the game.  The reasonable expectation is for your defense to make a stop to get the ball back to your offense for a chance to win the game, not to let the other team's offense bust out a 5:54 second drive to run out the clock.  

I guess what I'm understanding is that you have a loser mentality where if you get punched or go down then you quit.  So you want a QB that just quits when down and doesn't continue to play and put his team back into a position where they can win the game, which is what occurred in that Bucs game.  

No one is saying you just give up and don’t play. However pretending like in the raiders game when they got down 23 points with 12 mins remaining is not garbage time stat padding is pretty hilarious. the Raiders were trying to run the clock out as fast as possible and allowing the eagles to pick up yards to keep the clock running. Again 21% of his total yards have come when down 3 or more possessions. 

Yep we’re all quitters. That’s it. Another astute observation by You. 

you know what’s also a loser mentality handing out participation trophies for racking up yards in garbage time but celebrating them as they were meaningful. 

18 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Denver is a real toss up game for me. I can see how their physicalness and ability to stop the run can be an issue for this team. They also clearly aren’t as good as they played last week. At home I think they would have a better chance but on the road sways me towards them winning. 

Teams will load the box to stop the run and play single high. Dare hurts to beat you passing.

spoiler: he wont

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

No one is saying you just give up and don’t play. However pretending like in the raiders game when they got down 23 points with 12 mins remaining is not garbage time stat padding is pretty hilarious. the Raiders were trying to run the clock out as fast as possible and allowing the eagles to pick up yards to keep the clock running. Again 21% of his total yards have come when down 3 or more possessions. 

Yep we’re all quitters. That’s it. Another astute observation by You. 

you know what’s also a loser mentality handing out participation trophies for racking up yards in garbage time but celebrating them as they were meaningful. 

 

Where am I pretending where the Raiders game wasn't garbage time?  Can you please show me?  There were only 2 garbage time 4th quarters and that was the Raiders game and the Cowboys game.  The final drive in the Chiefs game was garbage time but that was it for the Chiefs game, the first TD at the start of the 4th quarter was when that was still very much a game.  

 

Loser mentality is getting upset at a kid who doesn't quit and has helped pull his team out of holes to put them in a position to win in the 4th quarter of games.  Unfortunately, outside of the Panthers game the defense has shriveled up and disappeared in these end game situations.  

Just now, ToastJenkins said:

Teams will load the box to stop the run and play single high. Dare hurts to beat you passing.

spoiler: he wont

That’s the adjustment i expect from the broncos and saints.  The Saints actually have a good run defense. So I’m curious to see when they face a very good run defense how the offense is going to function when the saints take that away 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

That’s the adjustment i expect from the broncos and saints.  The Saints actually have a good run defense. So I’m curious to see when they face a very good run defense how the offense is going to function when the saints take that away 

We will see if sirianni is ready to counter running it out of three and four wide. 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

That’s the adjustment i expect from the broncos and saints.  The Saints actually have a good run defense. So I’m curious to see when they face a very good run defense how the offense is going to function when the saints take that away 

Best in the league I think 

6 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Where am I pretending where the Raiders game wasn't garbage time?  Can you please show me?  There were only 2 garbage time 4th quarters and that was the Raiders game and the Cowboys game.  The final drive in the Chiefs game was garbage time but that was it for the Chiefs game, the first TD at the start of the 4th quarter was when that was still very much a game.  

And again those three instances that I gave you that you just confirmed make up 21% of his overall stats. That is what I keep telling you. Your 2 quarters doesn’t matter. His overall stats are padded by 488 yards in just those three instances. So instead of 2369 yards, he would only have 1881 without those instances in garbage time.  that is more than 1/5 of this entire yardage is from those three garbage time stat padding that you just identified as garbage time. 

 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Best in the league I think 

They overtake tampa? I know tampa was on a historic pace earlier this year.