7 minutes ago, goeagles5039 said:

What’s the deal with Dallas Goedert? Is he good to go for this week?

This is the first day he would be on the practice report.  I am assuming he's in the concussion protocol.  He was ruled out quickly and I imagine he's going to miss at least this week.  

1 hour ago, vaeagle2 said:

karen is always happy when winning and then crumbles when things get alittle tough

How did she not divorce them when they were in Detroit? 

17 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

HS and College FB state*  I can't see a 3rd team really flourishing in Texas.  Houston garners some interest but 90% of Texans are either Cowboys fans or don't GAF about the NFL.  I could see OKC getting a team before another city in Texas.  

Salt Lake City, it'll never happen but would be cool

 

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

Raise that pick Jets.  Hope Flacco does really well.  

Jets playing Miami... double bonus for a Jets win.

Crazy Schedule   

7 games left and only 2 out of divisions games. Saints and Jets

The remaining 5 games are:  2-Gints, 2- WFT and 1 - Dallas game with a late bye snuck in there. 

38 minutes ago, Swoop said:

If there is any QB I'd want him to learn from, it would be Peyton.

Honestly - it's good that he's reaching out to him.  

15 minutes ago, Infam said:

I really want to believe in Sanders.

But it‘s not just health, it‘s drops too. With our OL we have seen that pretty much every RB has solid numbers. If he can‘t catch the ball he‘s nothing special.

Sanders could be an elite runner but he needs to be more consistent.  He's got far more upside than Howard or Scott as a RB.  He needs to avoid negative plays.  I think giving him more carries helps with that because he's not always going to be looking for a HR.  

30 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Yup he's a home run threat but when he's not hitting home runs he's not hitting singles and doubles he's striking out.

 

29 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

You're backing up our point by trying to prove us wrong. Well played sir.

We know he's a home run hitter. and the definition of a home run hitter is he strikes out a lot. 

We cant have strike outs when we have Hurts

You can take away just about every NFL’ RB’s top 10-20% of longest plays and it will drop their averages down.  Same thing goes for WR’s etc.  The argument is nonsensical.  
 

Of course, with a "big play” type player, the average might go down a little more but you still want and need those types of players.  The Chiefs are full of home run threat type players and they have among the best offenses in the NFL.  

Just now, NCiggles said:

Honestly - it's good that he's reaching out to him.  

Sanders could be an elite runner but he needs to be more consistent.  He's got far more upside than Howard or Scott as a RB.  He needs to avoid negative plays.  I think giving him more carries helps with that because he's not always going to be looking for a HR.  

Sanders is not a guy you can afford to invest in at the RB position.   Injured too often and you can't really trust him at the end of games.   Hard pass on extending him.  

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Sanders is not a guy you can afford to invest in at the RB position.   Injured too often and you can't really trust him at the end of games.   Hard pass on extending him.  

I don't think he should be extended at this point.  I do think he should start if he's healthy against the Saints.  He would have to really play well to earn an extension.  I don't think it's impossible but  I don't see a reason they should at this point.  

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

I don't think he should be extended at this point.  I do think he should start if he's healthy against the Saints.  He would have to really play well to earn an extension.  I don't think it's impossible but  I don't see a reason they should at this point.  

For me to give him an extension, he'd need to play all next season without missing a single game and be able to be trusted at the end of games to close out.  Right now he's 0 for 2.  

And frankly, RBs are just too easily found to put big money into a RB.   Even Boston Scott is effective if the OL is doing their job properly.  Sure, you might not get the 'home run' from a JAG RB... but RB are becoming a dime a dozen type.  Find a guy who hits the hole hard, doesn't fumble, can be counted on to get what's blocked, and isn't a liability in the passing game (screens and protections).  That's all I need from a RB.

9 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

 

You can take away just about every NFL’ RB’s top 10-20% of longest plays and it will drop their averages down.  Same thing goes for WR’s etc.  The argument is nonsensical.  
 

Of course, with a "big play” type player, the average might go down a little more but you still want and need those types of players.  The Chiefs are full of home run threat type players and they have among the best offenses in the NFL.  

 Chiefs-And an average record

 

25 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

This is the first day he would be on the practice report.  I am assuming he's in the concussion protocol.  He was ruled out quickly and I imagine he's going to miss at least this week.  

He was pretty dazed when he went to the tent. Still can't believe they didn't flag it

17 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

Crazy Schedule   

7 games left and only 2 out of divisions games. Saints and Jets

The remaining 5 games are:  2-Gints, 2- WFT and 1 - Dallas game with a late bye snuck in there. 

I don't know a thing about Giants this season lol

Skins defense has been a disappointment this season. I was expecting them to be a top 5 that would carry the offense. Thankfully that didn't happen

Dallas is riding high and hyped. Wouldn't surprise me if we lose the last one. I don't think they're SB contenders though

57 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Except you don’t take away those carries because that’s what Sanders does.  He’s a dynamic player and a home run threat. 

 

50 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

If you take away any RBs top 4 runs their YPC will drop. 

 

What you guys are missing with Miles, this year, we are not taking away a 78, 68 and 52 yard run in this calculation.  He does not have a run over 25 yards.

Dropping his YPC average almost a full yard you are only removing a 24, 23, 23 and 18 yard carry.  Taking away four carries under 25 yards should not make a full YPC difference.  Imagine you numbers being "inflated" by three carries barely over 20 yards, and one 18 yard carry.

To get a full yard per carry difference from Jonathon Taylor, you are taking away an 83 and 78 yard carry.  

Lets face it: RB and LB are bad value early in the draft. If you take one early he better is a star, and even then it‘s probably a bad idea.

And these positions are cheap in FA too..

3 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

3 pages and people dont get it on Miles Sanders. 

Jordan Howard "falls forward" and is a 3 yards and cloud of dust back. This is what we need with Jalen Hurts. 

Miles Sanders is a home run hitter(which is fine) but we cant take the chance with a 2nd and long, or a 3rd and long with Hurts. 

It's not crazy to think Howard gets the bulk in the first half, wearing down a defense, running hard and getting those little yards and then bringing in a fresh home run hitting Miles Sanders in the last 2nd quarter and 3rd quarter. 

 

I think we will see but it's mostly dependent on Sanders' health.  Howard isn't a big back that's hard to go down.  He's just taking the yards available.  Sanders isn't an easier back to tackle. His problem is not taken what's given.  I think it matters if they can't sustain drives with him.  Sanders threat to turn 4 yard carries in to 14 yards is worth having him on the field.  He has had stretches where he is that runner.  He takes what is given and then still hits big plays.  He just hasn't done that this season. He has gotten very little opportunity.  I mean he has almost the same amount of carries 7 games as Howard does in 3.  I think he only has 3 games with more than 10 carries.  If they are running 40 times, he should get 10 to 15 carries.   

25 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

For me to give him an extension, he'd need to play all next season without missing a single game and be able to be trusted at the end of games to close out.  Right now he's 0 for 2.  

And frankly, RBs are just too easily found to put big money into a RB.   Even Boston Scott is effective if the OL is doing their job properly.  Sure, you might not get the 'home run' from a JAG RB... but RB are becoming a dime a dozen type.  Find a guy who hits the hole hard, doesn't fumble, can be counted on to get what's blocked, and isn't a liability in the passing game (screens and protections).  That's all I need from a RB.

For me his health impacts the cost more than the decision to extend him.  I almost think if he was healthy for an entire year, it inflates the cost relative to the risk of a decline in production.  I mean that's what Dallas has seen with Elliott, Carolina with McCaffrey.  I think the analysis of avoiding negative plays and being a better receiver are the areas where he needs to improve.  He's not a Westbrook, McCoy or Duce at this point.  There's no reason to keep him based on potential when it's not demonstrated on the field.  

58 minutes ago, Utebird said:

That's not much of a drop for Scott, which is the point.

 

Scott has a place in the offense but it isn't the place of getting the most carries. 

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

For me his health impacts the cost more than the decision to extend him.  I almost think if he was healthy for an entire year, it inflates the cost relative to the risk of a decline in production.  I mean that's what Dallas has seen with Elliott, Carolina with McCaffrey.  I think the analysis of avoiding negative plays and being a better receiver are the areas where he needs to improve.  He's not a Westbrook, McCoy or Duce at this point.  There's no reason to keep him based on potential when it's not demonstrated on the field.  

I get that...  for me, the health impacts whether I let him test the waters of free agency versus locking him up before then.   I'm not against bringing him back, but at a discount.  The way Howie has been doing these extensions, he's always putting these guys at top dollar or pretty close to it.   I have no interest in that with Sanders.  He can return, but at a relatively low price, not at what Howie has been doing.  And frankly, I'm not even worried about whether or not he gets signed elsewhere.  He's been no more effective than Howard and Scott.   They are getting a tiny fraction of what he might get in an extension.  And frankly, I'd rather have two cheap RBs that can rotate than one expensive one.

Not to beat this dead horse yet again, but here's first ballot Hall of Famer Dallas Goedert this season:  

18th in targets  

16th in receptions

8th in yards

20th in TDs (tied with 13 others) 

Ertz has been gone and aside from missing one game, he's been healthy.

Good tight end, but he can go.

Just now, Swoop said:

Not to beat this dead horse yet again, but here's first ballot Hall of Famer Dallas Goedert this season:  

18th in targets  

16th in receptions

8th in yards

20th in TDs (tied with 13 others) 

Ertz has been gone and aside from missing one game, he's been healthy.

Good tight end, but he can go.

You are kidding? He's 8th in yards... He's 16th in receptions... In an offense that the last few weeks has thrown the ball under 20 times a game. And the first handful of games when they were pass heavy Ertz was here. And hes missed a game. 

23 minutes ago, downundermike said:

What you guys are missing with Miles, this year, we are not taking away a 78, 68 and 52 yard run in this calculation.  He does not have a run over 25 yards.

Dropping his YPC average almost a full yard you are only removing a 24, 23, 23 and 18 yard carry.  Taking away four carries under 25 yards should not make a full YPC difference.  Imagine you numbers being "inflated" by three carries barely over 20 yards, and one 18 yard carry.

To get a full yard per carry difference from Jonathon Taylor, you are taking away an 83 and 78 yard carry.  

 

So the latest of downundermike logic is that Miles Sanders should be shelved because if you remove his longest 4 carries this season then his YPC drops almost a full yard, but not a full yard. 

 

But then if you remove Jordan Howard's 4 longest carries this season (25, 18, 15 & 11) his YPC drops drops over a full yard from 5.1 to 3.8.

 

2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

You are kidding? He's 8th in yards... He's 16th in receptions... In an offense that the last few weeks has thrown the ball under 20 times a game. And the first handful of games when they were pass heavy Ertz was here. And hes missed a game. 

No, I'm not. He's going to command 14 million per year at minimum. We don't have the cap space for him and while he's a good tight end, he's not and never will be on a Kelce (or even Ertz in his prime) level. He also hasn't played an entire season since his rookie year. 

Like I said, good TE, but he can go.

 

Just now, Swoop said:

No, I'm not. He's going to command 14 million per year at minimum. We don't have the cap space for him and while he's a good tight end, he's not and never will be on a Kelce (or even Ertz in his prime) level. He also hasn't played an entire season since his rookie year. 

Like I said, good TE, but he can go.

 

I disagree and look that's OK because we can disagree on things. I think he's a top TE who can block really well and makes big plays for this team. Don't just look at the stats because they are misleading. 

4 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Not to beat this dead horse yet again, but here's first ballot Hall of Famer Dallas Goedert this season:  

18th in targets  

16th in receptions

8th in yards

20th in TDs (tied with 13 others) 

Ertz has been gone and aside from missing one game, he's been healthy.

Good tight end, but he can go.

The choice with Goedert isn't about ability -- it's whether the Eagles will utilize him or not.

Travis Kelce -- 62 catches on 89 targets for 747 yards (12 yards per catch and 69.7% catch rate)

Dallas Goedert -- 29 catches on 39 targets for 429 yards (14.8 yards per catch and 74.4% catch rate)

 

I've been saying this all season; get him the ball -- he should be the Eagles 2nd target right behind Smith.  If the Eagles don't intend on utilizing him, then sure -- why pay $12-13M per season?