1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

Regardless of what you think of him, I really don't see the Eagles moving on from Hurts this coming year outside of an epic collapse.  Given the QB class this year and the age of the FAs I'm not going to be too upset about it, even if I still don't think Hurts is the guy. 

It's not a question as far as 2022 is concerned, that's a waste of time to argue over.

2023 will be when Eagles will decide long term.

Just now, Mike31mt said:

Feel free to list yours

Im 100% on board with activating Gainwell and giving him Scotts touches, and demoting Sanders.  Im done with him, bye

Not this week. This is Scott week. Foolish to not load him up with carries this week. Let Howard rest even. 

4 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Sanders isn’t the primary, Smith is.  Smith sees Sanders open and points that out to Hurts, who  then sees Sanders and makes a pretty good throw.  Sanders made a mistake that many inexperienced receivers make and waited for the ball, instead of stepping up into the throw. That allowed the DB to close on the ball and make a spectacular play.  Could Hurts have thrown it better?  Should Hurts have stayed in the pocket?  Yes, but not "quite bad”.   What is quite good is Smith’s recognition. 

Lol so our star WR is better at reading the field than our QB? That's a problem

4 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Sanders isn’t the primary, Smith is.  Smith sees Sanders open and points that out to Hurts, who  then sees Sanders and makes a pretty good throw.  Sanders made a mistake that many inexperienced receivers make and waited for the ball, instead of stepping up into the throw. That allowed the DB to close on the ball and make a spectacular play.  Could Hurts have thrown it better?  Should Hurts have stayed in the pocket?  Yes, but not "quite bad”.   What is quite good is Smith’s recognition. 

I didn't notice it until you mentioned it. Pretty impressive that Smith saw it and pointed it out to the QB

Just now, TorontoEagle said:

Not this week. This is Scott week. Foolish to not load him up with carries this week. Let Howard rest even. 

Waiting to hear what sirianni says on Howard for this week. I tend to think he’s going to be out. 

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

You said he has no weaknesses.  Isn’t that the perfect qb?  Or if inexperience is the only issue, then he’s the perfect qb prospect.

 

I didn't say that he has no weaknesses.  Why would you outright lie like that?  I said his inexperience is his weakness right now.  It's any young QBs weakness.  He has all the physical tools to succeed.  Outside of a 65+ yard hail mary there isn't a throw I don't think he is capable of making.  He has shown some major improvement from year one to year two in areas where there was some rightful concern in with his reduced fumbles and increased completion percentage.  Also with interceptions have dropped even though they weren't that dramatic as a rookie as far as rookies go.   Even the ridiculous talking point that was the favorite go to of many this offseason with second half scoring has been torched this season by Hurts.

 

If he came into this season and those big issues of his weren't improved upon at all then he would get rightfully criticized.  He has all the intangibles, the work ethic, the leadership, desire to win even if it means putting his body on the line to make a play when needed.  He just has the overall it factor.  It's exciting to watch him develop and grow as a QB.  I'm really excited to see if he can pull off this impressive run to take this team to the playoffs even though they won't go far because both Hurts and the team just aren't good enough at this point to go on a deep playoff run but getting this team to the playoffs in the first place is going to be a great accomplishment for Jalen.  It will only leave reasons to be optimistic about the next step forward he can take from year 2 to year 3 in the league.  

2 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Not this week. This is Scott week. Foolish to not load him up with carries this week. Let Howard rest even. 

That is true Scott owns the Giants

Michael Clay has been great as our ST coordinator. Elliott has been nails. A blocked punt won the Carolina game. Our punting/coverage has been good.

The only thing Clay couldn't fix was Reagor 😅

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Howard, Sanders, Scott, Gainwell …..for now. I am ok with flipping Scott and Gainwell.  
 

You should trust the coaching staff you were praising back when the offense sucked.  

We all knew that though.  

I do trust them, they picked Gainwell and its just a matter of time before Sanders is gone and supplanted by KG.

Sanders is massively overrated.  Im done waiting for him to put it all together.  I wish we could have traded him before letting him walk

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

Michael Clay has been great as our ST coordinator. Elliott has been nails. A blocked punt won the Carolina game. Our punting/coverage has been good.

The only thing Clay couldn't fix was Reagor 😅

Yep, ST has been good to great all year. Siposs the boss has been great too. I noticed our old friend Andre Roberts returning kicks last night. I wish we still had him. 

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

Michael Clay has been great as our ST coordinator. Elliott has been nails. A blocked punt won the Carolina game. Our punting/coverage has been good.

The only thing Clay couldn't fix was Reagor 😅

Probably unpopular to say, but I think the Cardinals are the most winnable playoff matchup the Eagles could get.

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

I do trust them, they picked Gainwell and its just a matter of time before Sanders is gone and supplanted by KG.

Sanders is massively overrated.  Im done waiting for him to put it all together.  I wish we could have traded him before letting him walk

All of our RBs have inherent flaws, but the sum of the whole is certainly greater than their parts. Sanders has the most upside/is the most athletic and best RB on talent alone. He makes far too many mental mistakes to be fully reliable. Howard is a great, straight ahead, downhill runner, but he cannot shoulder 20 carries a game either. He needs a counterpart to help shoulder the load, and he and Sanders are actually great complements to each other.

Gainwell might be good. He flashed some in the early season. I imagine the coaches don't trust him enough with pass pro, and that's why he's been relegated. Scott is a JAG, but we need him for this week and the next Giants game. 

Also, isn't Sanders under contract for next year? 

We're there any post game updates on Howard and Taylor? Two of the biggest contributors to the team's resurgence got hurt. Pretty big deal.

After all the downs we are only half game out from playoffs. 

24 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

This is the throw to Sanders.... This is great protection...

This is literally the next second... he's been staring to his left... and it's not there, immediately, his eyes drop to the 'rush' and he looks to run...

There is nothing good happening at this moment....

It gets worse...

There's still NO REASON to leave the pocket... but he does...

And now he's run himself into 'pressure'... where he makes this 40 yard throw to Sanders, about 3 seconds later than he likely should have...

 

 

I don't expect perfection from Hurts... I expect that he's learning and not making the same mistakes.  We've seen this EXACT same running around in a circle within the pocket before.  It's not good.   He runs himself out of the pocket and into the pressure from the DE... he took his eyes off the rush, and likely only put his eyes back down field when he realized he likely couldn't beat both the DE and DT to the edge... This was not a good play by the QB by any measurement.  

Strangely, he's brushed this aside and ignored it. I'm shocked!

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

Lol so our star WR is better at reading the field than our QB? That's a problem

Our star WR is extremely talented.  I didn’t say he was reading the field better.  He is running in the direction of Sanders, knows he is the primary and the S, I think it is PJ Williams has bit towards him so Sanders is open and he points it out to the QB.  Unselfish and talented.   But Hurts reads and his willingness to stay in the pocket are his biggest weakness.  

Now on that play, Lane has lost his block and Mailata hasn’t engaged but when he does, both he and Lane are deeper than the DEs, who have a path to the QB. Now for Hurts to know this, he isn’t watching the routes, he is watching the protection. Frankly, he needed to pull the trigger for Smith while still in the pocket. Hurts keeps the play alive but it needed that because he wouldn’t pull the trigger. 

10 minutes ago, RLC said:

Michael Clay has been great as our ST coordinator. Elliott has been nails. A blocked punt won the Carolina game. Our punting/coverage has been good.

The only thing Clay couldn't fix was Reagor 😅

It looks like Reagor was just fine on PR; where was he bringing the KR out from?  If he's bringing it out of the end zone then, yeah, that needs to be corrected.  If he's fielding them outside the EZ that's what teams do by design to limit returns short of the 25.

1 minute ago, Saltpeter said:

Probably unpopular to say, but I think the Cardinals are the most winnable playoff matchup the Eagles could get.

With Hopkins and murray or without? If those two guys are healthy that might be the most complete team in the NFL. They won two out of three games with colt McCoy playing quarterback and not having DeAndre Hopkins for three games. Their defense is much better than what people give a credit for. They got destroyed by Carolina but that was more because Colt McCoy and the offense kept giving Carolina great field position.

I actually think it’s the rams. I would put slay on Cooper Kupp. I’m not worried about the rest of the wide receivers on that Rams offense cause i think odell is just not what he once was. Jefferson is nice. And the Rams can be run on. Plus i rather face Stafford than the 4 WRs, running game of Connor (and Edmonds at that point) and murray. 

10 minutes ago, RLC said:

Michael Clay has been great as our ST coordinator. Elliott has been nails. A blocked punt won the Carolina game. Our punting/coverage has been good.

The only thing Clay couldn't fix was Reagor 😅

Marcus Jones, UH returner, is the answer.  Bonus, he is a short CB that plays some WR.  Howie loves his short CBs. 

3 hours ago, Bacarty2 said:

Here's the Convo I had with my buddies yesterday...

Are you confident, this year or next with Hurts rolling into enemy territory for a playoff game, or an important December/January start - everyone said no. 

Are you confident with Hurts leading a team to victory when theyre down 14-17-20 points, the answers were al no

Are you confident with Hurts if for whatever reason the run game doesnt get off the ground, the answer again was no. 

 

 

 

Nobody believes you have buddies.  Were you wandering around the produce section engaging in conversation with the zucchini again?  

12 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

It's not a question as far as 2022 is concerned, that's a waste of time to argue over.

2023 will be when Eagles will decide long term.

If Jalen Hurts keeps playing like this, Howie will sign him to a contract extension this offseason.  

7 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

We're there any post game updates on Howard and Taylor? Two of the biggest contributors to the team's resurgence got hurt. Pretty big deal.

 

Taylor seems to get hurt every week.  

17 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Regardless of what you think of him, I really don't see the Eagles moving on from Hurts this coming year outside of an epic collapse.  Given the QB class this year and the age of the FAs I'm not going to be too upset about it, even if I still don't think Hurts is the guy. 

I think the smart move would be to roll over some of our draft capital into the future to hedge our bets.

Hurts has looked good recently, but I’m still not 100% sold on him. So if we have 3 first round picks, I think it would be prudent to turn one of them into a 2023 first and 2022 second if possible. That way we get the best of both worlds — an infusion of young talent this upcoming draft and the optionality to go get a blue chip QB prospect in the future if Hurts doesn’t develop as well as we hope.

5 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

All of our RBs have inherent flaws, but the sum of the whole is certainly greater than their parts. Sanders has the most upside/is the most athletic and best RB on talent alone. He makes far too many mental mistakes to be fully reliable. Howard is a great, straight ahead, downhill runner, but he cannot shoulder 20 carries a game either. He needs a counterpart to help shoulder the load, and he and Sanders are actually great complements to each other.

Gainwell might be good. He flashed some in the early season. I imagine the coaches don't trust him enough with pass pro, and that's why he's been relegated. Scott is a JAG, but we need him for this week and the next Giants game. 

Also, isn't Sanders under contract for next year? 

See I dont agree with this anymore. I used to, but he keeps making inexcusable mistakes.

I think we've basically reached Sanders "upside" and hes not getting any better. 

-Its almost a guarantee he wont get better as a runner at this point in his career.  He has a penchant for killer fumbles.

--His hands are inconsistent in the passing game. Cant trust him to make a catch with any degree of difficulty

--Had a decent run as a consistent pass blocker but that tailed off too.  He was bad most of last year

--Hes always hurt.  Nothing else to say

 

Id much, much rather see Howard as the #1 with the others being peppered in.  We rarely throw to the RBs anyway.   Gainwell actually leads the team in pass targets.  Put him on the field.

2 minutes ago, EricAllenPick6 said:

If Jalen Hurts keeps playing like this, Howie will sign him to a contract extension this offseason.  

 

Hurts can't sign an extension until after next season.  He is only in year 2 of 4 for his rookie deal.