2 minutes ago, eglz1 said:

Wilson has taken some hits in his time there. People think QBs can play 'til they're 40 because Tom Brady has done it. I don't know that Brady had to wash his uniform after many games it was so clean. That has not been the case with Wilson.

Frankly Wilson isn’t the QB I’d go after. He’s 33 and I’m not keen on giving up a ton of picks it’ll take on a QB at that age.

 I’d frankly go after watson (assuming he doesn’t go to prison) if they were going to trade the farm cause of his age and ability but he has a NTC and reports besides Gary Cobb have said he wouldn’t accept a deal here. However Tua playing as well as he has in November and if he continues it might change the optics for watson. If they continue with tua then his no. 1 place is off the market. I really dont think Carolina looks as ideal as it once did. Their oline is bad. Mccaffrey can’t stay healthy. They have WRs. That’s about it on offense. I still don’t think he would come here but if Miami continues on with tua and he keeps playing well then i think it opens up a possibility that he may have to change his mind

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He can't throw it to Smith there... the Giant covering Reagor is looking back and could fall on Reagor and light up Smith or pick it off... BUT.... I Hurts had any football IQ, he'd recognize that the Giants were in man and he just has to wait for Reagor to clear out the area and it would be an easy drop in over the top... AND... a simple slide up in the pocket allows Hurts to keep his eyes downfield in a perfect pocket.   Hurts is currently 10 yards behind the LOS... and has a perfect pocket... if he'd just shuffle up a step.

Take a look again, there's an unblocked defender who would pounce if he stepped up. He's basically spying Hurts.

4 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Take a look again, there's an unblocked defender who would pounce if he stepped up. He's basically spying Hurts.

I checked before posting, that defender was shadowing Scott out of the backfield.  He's spying Scott, not Hurts.

 

 

Apologies... on third check, it was Sanders, not Scott.

8 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I checked before posting, that defender was shadowing Scott out of the backfield.  He's spying Scott, not Hurts.

 

 

Apologies... on third check, it was Sanders, not Scott.

It was Gainwell

Tried to get the best screenshot I could, but you can tell it's #14. Plus he tried to catch that Goedert drop 2 plays before and didn't sub anyone in. 

 

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It was Gainwell

Potato, Tomato... don't matter.... he wasn't shadowing Hurts.

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

 

I posted this earlier 

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Potato, Tomato... don't matter.... he wasn't shadowing Hurts.

Agreed. The guying that was spying Hurts was standing in front of Herbig who wasn't blocking anyone

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Agreed. The guying that was spying Hurts was standing in front of Herbig who wasn't blocking anyone

Jamon brown would be proud. 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Agreed. The guying that was spying Hurts was standing in front of Herbig who wasn't blocking anyone

Except the one I'm talking about is staring at Hurts, while #51 is being doubled teamed and holding Sanders to keep him from releasing.

18 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Except the one I'm talking about is staring at Hurts, while #51 is being doubled teamed and holding Sanders to keep him from releasing.

We know who you are talking about. Gainwell chips #51 and then leaks out. #48 then takes several steps backwards because Gainwell is his guy. 

This is where he stands when Gainwell chips

And there he is not even 2 seconds later 3 yards back and to the left

And finally he's turning and running downfield while Hurts still has the ball. # 55 is the spy and following Hurts after he scrambled left

43 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I agree with you, but would say a step up in the pocket... buys that extra second and then the throw is wide open for the TD... and all it would have taken was pocket presence from Hurts... but he has none.

This is just wrong.

He actually does what he's supposed to do. Throw to the receiver who has a defender with his back to him and no safety help. This is the opposite of lack of pocket awareness. This is exactly what you want. He knew he had time. There was only a three man rush. He read the field and went to the receiver who was in the best position to make a big play.

It's amazing how so many people on here just want to crap all over Hurts that when he does the things they have been claiming he can't do - manipulate the pocket, read a defense and throw an accurate ball - they still find a way to criticize him.

Could he have thrown to Smith? The coach himself said the routes weren't run properly. But I guess the coach doesn't know what he's talking about. Once the initial read is off, he did everything correctly.

But I guess the Hurts haters are just going to stubbornly cling to their narrative.

  

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Notre Dame looking at Marcus Freeman (D coordinator) Matt Campbell of Iowa State.   I wonder what is going on with Oklahoma.  Would they be waiting for someone to play in their championship game this weekend?

I’m really surprised luke fickell isn’t up there for ND.

5 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

This is just wrong.

He actually does what he's supposed to do. Throw to the receiver who has a defender with his back to him and no safety help. This is the opposite of lack of pocket awareness. This is exactly what you want. He knew he had time. There was only a three man rush. He read the field and went to the receiver who was in the best position to make a big play.

It's amazing how so many people on here just want to crap all over Hurts that when he does the things they have been claiming he can't do - manipulate the pocket, read a defense and throw an accurate ball - they still find a way to criticize him.

Could he have thrown to Smith? The coach himself said the routes weren't run properly. But I guess the coach doesn't know what he's talking about. Once the initial read is off, he did everything correctly.

But I guess the Hurts haters are just going to stubbornly cling to their narrative.

  

Can't agree with this.  

Hurts is taking way too long to process; he had 8 seconds at the end of the first half, wasted all of them, and threw an INT to take points off the board.  On this play with 21 seconds left he floated a ball to a WR who needed to come out of the end zone to get it and would likely have been tackled in the field of play with no timeouts -- the clock showed 15 seconds after the play ended -- not much time to get everyone lined up and spike the ball if Reagor catches it because you've got to unstack players.

It's not about hating anyone or crapping all over them.  QB play will always be critiqued.  Hurts is an asset with his legs, but to this point he's a detriment when throwing the football.

  

27 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Except the one I'm talking about is staring at Hurts, while #51 is being doubled teamed and holding Sanders to keep him from releasing.

And the one you are talking about is shadowing the back.  Watch the play and key on that player and watch his movements... every single one is mirroring the back. 

 

But, let's say that that guy is spying Hurts... then stepping up forces him to commit and then Hurts can dump the ball over his head to the leaking RB for an easy conversion and to run out of bounds after converting the first.   So, even if you are correct, you are still incorrect that that play doesn't fall 100% on Hurts' decision making failures and lack of pocket presence.  He's just not good in the pocket.  The Giants knew that, which is why this play is a 3 man rush, with a player spying, and they dropping 7 in coverage.  The goal was to keep him in the pocket.   They weren't going to let Hurts beat them with his legs... he was going to have to do it with his arm... and we see how that turned out.

10 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Can't agree with this.  

Hurts is taking way too long to process; he had 8 seconds at the end of the first half, wasted all of them, and threw an INT to take points off the board.  On this play with 21 seconds left he floated a ball to a WR who needed to come out of the end zone to get it and would likely have been tackled in the field of play with no timeouts -- the clock showed 15 seconds after the play ended -- not much time to get everyone lined up and spike the ball if Reagor catches it because you've got to unstack players.

It's not about hating anyone or crapping all over them.  QB play will always be critiqued.  Hurts is an asset with his legs, but to this point he's a detriment when throwing the football.

  

So the answer is that Hurts shouldn't throw balls that allow his guys to make plays. Don't throw to an open Scott on the goal line because he might fall down. Don't throw to Reagor because he might not be able to fall forward six inches. In other words, only throw to Smith or Goedert when they are wide open and never progress to another read, since anyone else is incapable of making a play.

Sounds good coach. Let's go win a Super Bowl with your plan!!!

37 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It was Gainwell

Tried to get the best screenshot I could, but you can tell it's #14. Plus he tried to catch that Goedert drop 2 plays before and didn't sub anyone in. 

I saw the 4 later on the play... and just assumed the 2.  But, you are very correct... that's definitely Gainwell.

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

 

 

 

but this one makes it clear that you are either clueless about the game, or you are intentionally painting a bogus picture to justify some asinine take you've already put out there.  

 

 

Pot, meet kettle.

 

LOL. Damn, coming in hot on ol' Spadaro

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

LOL. Damn, coming in hot on ol' Spadaro

At least Dave is responding. He went into long periods of ignoring the ask Dave section towards the end.  

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

They shouldn't give up anything. He's a 33 year old QB who has relied on his legs to make plays. Sure he doesn't run like Hurts but he uses his legs to make plays. And he doesn't read defenses all that well. They should avoid Wilson at all costs. This team is not a QB away. 

Respect that you think he may be to old (I don’t), but to say he doesn’t read defenses, etc.. is nonsense. If he plays 3-7 more years he’d be worth it (depending on compensation). We could find and groom another QB in next few years (QB factory, remember).

On a scale of Michael Jordan to Ben Simmons, how do we think this sudden flurry of widespread Jalen Reagor criticism will impact his psyche?

23 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

At least Dave is responding. He went into long periods of ignoring the ask Dave section towards the end.  

My original account got banned for asking too many hard questions of Dave back in 2009

7 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

On a scale of Michael Jordan to Ben Simmons, how do we think this sudden flurry of widespread Jalen Reagor criticism will impact his psyche?

 I think it also depends on his teammates, Embiid told the truth on Simmons not taking the easy shot.  I’ve also believed since the Toronto playoff series when Jimmy Butler took the ball out of his hands and he brought the ball up the court, that Simmons pretty much checked out.   

22 minutes ago, The Blackfish said:

 I think it also depends on his teammates, Embiid told the truth on Simmons not taking the easy shot.  I’ve also believed since the Toronto playoff series when Jimmy Butler took the ball out of his hands and he brought the ball up the court, that Simmons pretty much checked out.   

I’d scratch Reagor for this weekend and bring him back slowly. He’s not helping the team now - he doesn’t look like he’ll ever meet the expectations of being a 1st round pick, but he should have the talent to at least be a contributor in a lesser role. More Quez, I guess. Can’t say I’m excited for more JJAW - probably want them to elevate a WR to see what he has rather than Ward.