1 hour ago, TorontoEagle said:

This draft seems to be the perfect intersection of positional need/availability for us. Seems first round is heavy with defensive prospects, so if there was ever a time to take an LB in the first, this is it. If they don't......I can't imagine them ever doing so again, under Lowie anyway. 

I want to agree. I do think we go heavy defense in the first 2 rounds (maybe lock up the o-line or take a swing at QB with one of the picks). But this class screams defensive talent, and I really would love to see us grab a top Linebacker like Dean. However, I do not think it is vital that we spend a first rounder on LB if we want talent at the position.

Every year, linebackers are getting more athletic and adding more dimensions to their game. Guys like Parsons are ELITE game changers, but they are not extremely rare, and the next tier down is not even much of a drop. Every year there are guys like Kenneth Murray, Roquan Smith, Tremaine Edmonds, Darius Leonard, Patrick Queen, Nick Bolton, etc. who are going to produce and give you all you need as a leader for your defense.

I would like it if we grab an upper echelon LB in the first, but you can usually find pro-bowl level starters later on at the LB position in particular. Really for me it comes down to would I rather have an elite LB (E.g., Luke Kuechly) and a good DL or CB... or would I rather have a Good LB (Dieon Jones) and an elite DL or CB. Give me the latter.

1 hour ago, Bacarty2 said:

Even with a top Tier QB I think Parsons will end up being better/ more powerful force and I really like Smith. 

 

Parsons would have been a great pick for the team.  The problem is that Smith fit a bigger need because the team had misevaluated WR in the prior 2 drafts. 

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I'm not sure if not paying Trotter cost them a Super Bowl but I do think they should have paid him.  Arguably the failure to re-sign Hicks is just as inexcusable as Trotter.  I do think the question at LB isn't so much MLB or WLB but SAM.  Gannon's defense needs an athletic SAM that can both pass rush and cover like Anthony Barr.  Arguably the only player that's a first round pick that fits the profile is Kayvon Thibodeux.  

I would put Kayvon on the edge hands down, he is a menace. He could bump back to LB if we ran a 3-4, but I dont see that happening

46 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

That style of defense in the NFL is long gone.

The style of defense may be long gone but having superior impact players still goes a long way.  We have none.  Slay is having a terrific year but in all honesty, it means nothing in the grand scheme of things.  By the time this team is ready, he's going to be gone.  

I'm sick of having bend don't break defenses and being sold this idea that we have a dominant D-Line when they only show up every 3rd or 4th game.  I'm and old school guy through and through, not just when it comes to sports and I realize a lot of my ideas are from another era but things also have a way of coming back around again.  The Eagles have shown that a dominant running game CAN WIN football games.  Pair a dominant running game with an aggressive, downhill and nasty defense and that's an Eagles team I would love to watch.

46 minutes ago, greend said:

 

Ahhh yes, good ole Skidmarko Murray

Don't think either of us are saying he was a good signing...just stating the fact that the Eagles did sign an ex-Cowboy in his prime after a monster season.

6 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I'm not sure if not paying Trotter cost them a Super Bowl but I do think they should have paid him.  Arguably the failure to re-sign Hicks is just as inexcusable as Trotter.  I do think the question at LB isn't so much MLB or WLB but SAM.  Gannon's defense needs an athletic SAM that can both pass rush and cover like Anthony Barr.  Arguably the only player that's a first round pick that fits the profile is Kayvon Thibodeux.  

Trotters replacement was fat Kirkland and slow Barry Gardner.

Barry Gardner was beat up in nfccg against BUCS and a big part why eagles lost.

Trotter changes trajectory of that game and gives them a higher chance to win, IMO.

As for what Gannon needs at LB I agree, and sounds alot like Parsons would have been the perfect fit.

9 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I'm not sure if not paying Trotter cost them a Super Bowl but I do think they should have paid him.  Arguably the failure to re-sign Hicks is just as inexcusable as Trotter.  I do think the question at LB isn't so much MLB or WLB but SAM.  Gannon's defense needs an athletic SAM that can both pass rush and cover like Anthony Barr.  Arguably the only player that's a first round pick that fits the profile is Kayvon Thibodeux.  

The problem with HIcks is they flat-out didn't want him.  They don't value LB, he had injuries and basically said see ya.  There was no failed attempt, it was the Eagles letting their best LB go because they don't pay them.

The Trotter fiasco was a disaster followed by him going to the Redskins just to spite the Eagles. 

Just now, QBhunter58 said:

I would put Kayvon on the edge hands down, he is a menace. He could bump back to LB if we ran a 3-4, but I dont see that happening

I think he's a player that gives them flexibility.  I mean the Cowboys have used Parson effectively as a limited edge rusher.  I don't think Kayvon is Parsons.  I think having Kayvon in a position to make plays and put him near the LOS without having him put his hand on the ground every play.  

10 minutes ago, QBhunter58 said:

Every year, linebackers are getting more athletic and adding more dimensions to their game. Guys like Parsons are ELITE game changers, but they are not extremely rare, and the next tier down is not even much of a drop. Every year there are guys like Kenneth Murray, Roquan Smith, Tremaine Edmonds, Darius Leonard, Patrick Queen, Nick Bolton, etc. who are going to produce and give you all you need as a leader for your defense.

And every year the Eagles continually pass over them.  I

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

And every year the Eagles continually pass over them.  I

Touche... it makes no sense

6 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

The style of defense may be long gone but having superior impact players still goes a long way.  We have none.  Slay is having a terrific year but in all honesty, it means nothing in the grand scheme of things.  By the time this team is ready, he's going to be gone.  

I'm sick of having bend don't break defenses and being sold this idea that we have a dominant D-Line when they only show up every 3rd or 4th game.  I'm and old school guy through and through, not just when it comes to sports and I realize a lot of my ideas are from another era but things also have a way of coming back around again.  The Eagles have shown that a dominant running game CAN WIN football games.  Pair a dominant running game with an aggressive, downhill and nasty defense and that's an Eagles team I would love to watch.

I agree with you to a point. I am a defensive person as well and I believe that defense is what really wins games. Having a great offense is nice and all, but a great defense will usually beat a great offense when the game is on the line. It doesnt even have to be great all the time, only great when it matters most. That means running stunts that get home, pressuring the QB with blitz and stopping the run.

This is why I am all about the Eagles spending their first 3 or 4 picks on defensive players. Go heavy on the defensive side in the draft and fill the holes on offense through FA.

2 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Trotters replacement was fat Kirkland and slow Barry Gardner.

Barry Gardner was beat up in nfccg against BUCS and a big part why eagles lost.

Trotter changes trajectory of that game and gives them a higher chance to win, IMO.

As for what Gannon needs at LB I agree, and sounds alot like Parsons would have been the perfect fit.

Gardner and Kirkland didn't help but I thought it was JJ's insistence of playing a washed up and slow Blaine Bishop over Michael Lewis.  

Welcome to the blog, home of the worst Eagles takes. 

2 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Wild Stat...

Vikings are the only team to lead at by at  least 7 points in every game

Wild stat... Kirk Cousins is 23 (TD) and 3 (Int) this year and NOBODY effing cares, because he is Kirk cousins.

"you LIKE THAT!?"... No kirk, I dont, actually I dont even care.

8 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

The style of defense may be long gone but having superior impact players still goes a long way.  We have none.  Slay is having a terrific year but in all honesty, it means nothing in the grand scheme of things.  By the time this team is ready, he's going to be gone.  

I'm sick of having bend don't break defenses and being sold this idea that we have a dominant D-Line when they only show up every 3rd or 4th game.  I'm and old school guy through and through, not just when it comes to sports and I realize a lot of my ideas are from another era but things also have a way of coming back around again.  The Eagles have shown that a dominant running game CAN WIN football games.  Pair a dominant running game with an aggressive, downhill and nasty defense and that's an Eagles team I would love to watch.

Yup seems the league has tried to legislate out the running game and encouraged teams to all be the greatest show on turf and air it out 50 times a game yet the Ravens eagles niners titans have all shown one can win with a running game.

Though that Style has yet to be shown to be effective in the post season this decade.

I like watching the running game, in high school we ran triple option, we'd watch a lot of air force and navy tape, I grew up about 10 minute drive from U of U and back in the 90's under Ron McBride they were a smash mouth running team, think Jamal Anderson, Fuamatu Ma afala, Mike Anderson, big bruising backs behind some big fat uglies pushing dudes around paired with a physical Defense.

I like that style if football it may be old school but I think it's closer to the essence of what football is meant to be.

All this goofy 5 wide sets throw the ball 50 times a game puts butts in the seats especially for a generation that wants Instant gratification but it's turned into fast break Arena league football, so I appreciate teams like the eagles who will kind of defy the norm set by the league and just line up and mash some dudes.

Though I don't think that was Siri's goals coming in, he's doing it more out of necessity than want.

So will be Interesting to see how Lowie drift away from that or if they embrace it and build on it?

6 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Welcome to the blog, home of the worst Eagles takes. 

How's Hurts treating you? Still sodomizing his jersey? 

7 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Gardner and Kirkland didn't help but I thought it was JJ's insistence of playing a washed up and slow Blaine Bishop over Michael Lewis.  

Yup not to mention Bishop came back from an injury to soon because he insisted he didn't want to miss playing in that game 

That decision hurt the team and was selfish, Mike Lewis wasnt just the better ayer he was actually healthy and could run.

I can see jurevicious run past Gardner and Bishop while writing and it makes me nauseated 🤢

7 minutes ago, Godfather said:

How's Hurts treating you? Still sodomizing his jersey? 

16 minutes ago, Godfather said:

How's Hurts treating you? Still sodomizing his jersey? 

Is it Sodomy or Buggery if it's with a jersey? 

If the Eagles are keeping all 3 first round picks I'd really prefer a combination of DE, S, DT, CB.  I would value the secondary over a LB, and grab the best available LB in the middle of Round 2.  The Eagles issue at LB hasn't been waiting a little too late; it's been shopping from the clearance bin that is the UDFA scrap heap.

 

We lost to an injured Daniel Jones...

 

Dolphins definitely winning now.

 

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

Don't think either of us are saying he was a good signing...just stating the fact that the Eagles did sign an ex-Cowboy in his prime after a monster season.

I didn't say that you did say he was a good signing

At the time I though he was a good signing. Then it turned out he couldn't find the hole in a donut

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

We lost to an injured Daniel Jones...

 

Dolphins definitely winning now.

The Eagles are not a good team.   The talk of the Eagles going on some sort of hot streak, even with a weak schedule in front of them, and winning the division was just a bunch of noise.  This team doesn't have the talent needed for an extended winning streak.  Maybe they can find a way to scrape together a 0.500 record down the stretch and finish 3-3 in the last 6... but that would mean going 3-2 in the last 5 games now.  That might be a tall order for this squad.  2-3 is more likely... but they do have the Jets, Giants and Washingteam 2x.  I don't think that either the Giants or Washingteam can sweep anybody, so that likely means 2 wins for the Eagles right there.   So, maybe they can go 3-2 down the stretch and finish with an inflated record of 8-9 because their schedule was just so weak.