On 9/11/2021 at 10:21 AM, austinfan said:

One reason Cleveland was bad for so long was while they drafted solid in the first 3 rounds, they had 4 or 5 years where they missed on every third day pick.

Still waiting on the 4 or 5 years that this happened.

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

That’s one of the reasons i give the eagles a better shot. First home game of the year and first game in front of a pack crowd at the linc since the seattle playoff game. I think there will be juice in the stadium. 

Agreed. And look it is going to be tough and it's going to be a hard battle. I think we probably lose but I give us a decent shout.

 

15 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

11 of Hurts Completions were behind LOS   

12 were 1-15Yards out

Only 2 were 15+ yards

 

Yes take what the defense gives you. Not every defense will give you the underneath stuff

 

That TD to Dallas was really nice though. 
 

Im not sure which TD was more impressive tbh. The one to Smith had nice touch as well. 
 

Also, this is hilarious:

 

13 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

11 of Hurts Completions were behind LOS   

12 were 1-15Yards out

Only 2 were 15+ yards

 

Yes take what the defense gives you. Not every defense will give you the underneath stuff

 

One takeaway for me was the execution on the screens, first and foremost from QB1, but also the blocking and catching.  Most were well executed and were good calls too.  Nice not having to wonder can our guy even hit the screen pass (Wentz SUCKED at them).  

55 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Surprised about that.  Did look like their best DT that actually played DT in the PS.  (Milt got a few snaps at DT but not enough to say he shined).

Eagles aren't doing Monday after the ge press conferences with Sirianni? 

52 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Niners are actually staying in West Virginia for the week. 

 

Damn.  Thanks for sharing.  

4 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

That TD to Dallas was really nice though. 
 

Im not sure which TD was more impressive tbh. The one to Smith had nice touch as well. 
 

Also, this is hilarious:

 

I thought the one to SMith was really nice, you need to be able to throw that ball, and not every QB can do that. 

19 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

My concern, nothing over the middle.  

Again, maybe that's by design.  But it's something to keep an eye on going forward.

Yup last year we all heard how hurts couldn't throw or didn't throw over the middle of the field then first game out he throws a ton of passes out to the flats, a bunch behind the LOS and a bunch a few yards past but nothing to the middle and not one deep shot.

I can't imagine that kind of offense is sustainable, at some point defenses will take away all that dink and dunk stuff and make hurts beat them in other areas of the field, still to be seen if hurts can?

18 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

My concern, nothing over the middle.  

Again, maybe that's by design.  But it's something to keep an eye on going forward.

One positive I will say about him is he doesn't force things like Wentz did. He was more like Foles in taking what was there yesterday.

4 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Yup last year we all heard how hurts couldn't throw or didn't throw over the middle of the field then first game out he throws a ton of passes out to the flats, a bunch behind the LOS and a bunch a few yards past but nothing to the middle and not one deep shot.

I can't imagine that kind of offense is sustainable, at some point defenses will take away all that dink and dunk stuff and make hurts beat them in other areas of the field, still to be seen if hurts can?

Agree. I don't want to dislike the guy, but we've been fooled in the past and there are some major questions around what you mentioned.

9 minutes ago, jamiller said:

One takeaway for me was the execution on the screens

They were more creative than Doug, and ran at times the defense was not expecting it.  With Doug, you knew ahead of time that a poorly schemed screen was coming.

3 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

I thought the one to SMith was really nice, you need to be able to throw that ball, and not every QB can do that. 

    That was a really nice throw, but that's QB 101 in the NFL.  If you can't throw that ball, you can't be an NFL QB.

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

They played well, but, it was one of the 5 worst teams in the league.  Lets circle back to this after we play the 9ers and Dallas.  I feel our defense is going to have their hands full next week, and Hurts got wrecked by a Dallas team lead by Andy Dalton last year.

Don't take everything I say so seriously

4 minutes ago, downundermike said:

They were more creative than Doug, and ran at times the defense was not expecting it.  With Doug, you knew ahead of time that a poorly schemed screen was coming.

Agree. That freaking screen at the wrong time with Doug...

Obligatory "PFF is stupid" buuutttt...

 

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

    That was a really nice throw, but that's QB 101 in the NFL.  If you can't throw that ball, you can't be an NFL QB.

Too often that fade is not thrown correctly, either under or overthrown, or put on the inside when it should have been a back shoulder or not enough air under it where it can be defended. It's much tougher than it looks.  

34 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Still a good risk for ROI.

Absolutely.  AFan pegged it.  Said something along the lines of he is just what you use a seventh rounder for.  Lots of athletic ability and let Stout mold him.  Kudos to AFan for that analysis.  My only point is that Mailata was the Birds 7th round choice in 2018 and 2019 in cost.  So he cost a little more than a seventh round pick in truth.  

Yeah I'm concerned about over the middle stuff after watching us get f'ked relentlessly all last season trying to throw 8-10 yards over the middle, I miss that crap.

4 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Agree. I don't want to dislike the guy, but we've been fooled in the past and there are some major questions around what you mentioned.

I'd like to see hurts do well, I'd just like to see more from him and am a bit hesitant to crown him 

He looked to have good control and management if the offense and he was clean and effective zero turnovers zero fumbles I don't remember him forcing any throws or having any throws that should have been intercepted but we're dropped, he just had a very workman like game and played within himself and the offense.

The one big time throw he made was the goedert TD, that was a high level throw, all his other throws were throws one would expect a NFL starting QB to make consistently.

If like to see him take the next step and show he can push the ball down field and hit guys down the seam, and again maybe the falcons were taking alot of that away as has been mentioned and when those opportunities are there is like to see him take advantage.

As long as they keep winning I don't care if he throws 500 passes behind the LOS, I just don't think that's sustainable and at some point he's going to have to show defenses he can complete passes to other areas of the field.

6 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Obligatory "PFF is stupid" buuutttt...

 

Sometime PFF ranking don't pass the eye test and in this case I agree with PFF.

He was a problem all game for the falcons.

Hopefully hargrave can keep it up, he's going to see a lot better OLines than what the falcons had, hopefully he can show out 

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

 

I'll go with Chandler Jones.  You know the guy who had 5 sacks yesterday.  PFF and that Petersen guy are morons.  

It's insane. Hargrave played fantastic and sacks aren't everything for an interior lineman. But Jones had a  historically good performance. Only 7 people have ever had more sacks in a game.  They go out of their way to seem like the smartest person in the room. 

6 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

Too often that fade is not thrown correctly, either under or overthrown, or put on the inside when it should have been a back shoulder or not enough air under it where it can be defended. It's much tougher than it looks.  

I didn't say it wasn't tough, I said its QB 101.  Every QB works on that exact throw.  He had a rub and was wide open.  That's a can of corn.  Sure, there are QBs that screw it up.  And you know what those QBs are called:  backups or camp arms.  They are not starting QB material in the NFL.   

I'm not trying to diminish anything, but that's a throw that a starting NFL QB needs to make 99 out of 100 times.  And if he fails to connect on it, he's called to the carpet for missing it.  Clean pocket, 1 read, drop it in on time to the open space.  That's about as easy as it gets in the NFL for a 25 yard pass.   It's tough to do it perfect, but that's an easy throw by NFL standards.

Hurts is a first-year starting QB.  He's going to have good games and bad games.  Week 1 is likely going to be one of his best games all season.

He was very good yesterday and the Eagles got a road win.  I'll take it, try not to be too extreme in my positivity, and try not to be too negative if the better defenses shut him down.