1 minute ago, Utebird said:

It's not the point, the point is that Lowie are willing to drop their " principles" when it comes to QB.

 

I don’t disagree with you that it is disturbing if it’s true. However I tend to believe the Eagles have/had interest in watson and their investigation that they did made lurie more comfortable being willing to make that potential move. I don’t think he went into it saying screw it I don’t care he has all these sexual assault cases because he’s a quarterback. I have a really hard time believing he’d just ignore all of it and go all in cause he’s a QB. 

10 minutes ago, Utebird said:

The point was that Lowie will abandon their principles for a QB, makes one wonder what else they abandon their principles for.

No worries just lost what little respect I had for Lowie.

I mean maybe but we still don't know the veracity of the allegations.  I mean they didn't trade for him just like Miami didn't trade for him.  As far as we know, part of the reason was that they became uncomfortable with the potential allegations.  We  just don't know what, if anything, stopped the trade.  

3 minutes ago, olsilverhair said:

I wanna be first, jets beat the eagles

If Kelce plays, we should be fine.

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don't really agree. Why split reps all week to play against the Jets of all teams? Hurts already said Wednesday he's playing, so how much gamesmanship is there really?

I think missed in this is that just because hurts starts the game doesn’t mean hurts finishes the game. His ankle might be good enough for him at the start and something might re-aggravate that injury where they need minshew to be in there. So the reps that minshew got might be helpful if that scenario plays out

6 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

What principles?  No person that walks into a massage parlor can ever play NFL football?

You seem to be stick on what Watson did or didn't do instead if focusing on the remark in the posted article.

That stated, " Lurie has his principles, except for when it comes to QB..."

Like I said for me just decreases the little respect I had for Lurie.

 

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I don’t disagree with you that it is disturbing if it’s true. However I tend to believe the Eagles have/had interest in watson and their investigation that they did made lurie more comfortable being willing to make that potential move. I don’t think he went into it saying screw it I don’t care he has all these sexual assault cases because he’s a quarterback. I have a really hard time believing he’d just ignore all of it and go all in cause he’s a QB. 

Thats fair, id like to give Lowie the benefit of doubt but I've been so disappointed with so many if their decisions the last few years that it's tough to do so.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think missed in this is that just because hurts starts the game doesn’t mean hurts finishes the game. His ankle might be good enough for him at the start and something might re-aggravate that injury where they need minshew to be in there. So the reps that minshew got might be helpful if that scenario plays out

I agree but that goes beyond competitive advantage or gamesmanship. That's a real concern.

To me, a coach that is trying to play the competitive advantage game with the media is Sirianni during TC not naming a starting QB despite him taking all the reps. It's something obvious to everyone but they want to play games. 

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

So the two takeaways from the article 

1. Lurie is higher on hurts than howie but from what i gather doesn’t say how much higher lurie is. Because another piece of info was the second takeaway 

2. That lurie was the driving force behind the eagles interest and going after watson. From the article "The Eagles did preliminary work on Watson and were open to the possibility of a transaction with the Texans, even in light of multiple sexual assault allegations, sources said. While this would seem to go against Lurie’s edict, Hurts would have either left in the exchange or dropped on the depth chart. A move of such magnitude couldn’t occur without owner approval, of course. In fact, Lurie was believed to be the driving force behind his team’s interest, the two sources familiar with his thinking said. "Jeffrey has his principles,” an NFL source who worked with the Eagles said, "until it comes to quarterbacks.”

I didnt get that second point from the article at all.

What I got was that a couple of people that are 'familiar with his thinking' and then it goes on to talk about Vick

Some still haven’t gotten over the signing of Michael Vick just weeks after he was released from prison for running a dogfighting operation. The Eagles would be vindicated, to an extent, by his repentance, but the decision was primarily motivated by acquiring quarterbacking talent.

Lurie isn’t alone among NFL owners when it comes to the position, obviously. But few entertained the Vick notion, and subsequent investments speak to the extent that he will go, for better or worse.

To me that means that some people, that have not even spoken to Lurie about this, assumes that he pushed for Watson because he went after Vick when he was released from prison.

15 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

This may be the appropriate time to point out Watson hasn't even been charged with a crime yet.

He is still a scumbag...

11 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

This may be the appropriate time to point out Watson hasn't even been charged with a crime yet.

10 women I think filed criminal complaints, which as you said means zilch cause he hasn’t been charged with anything. One part in Watson’s favor is the FBI getting involved when one of the women was allegedly trying to extort him. 

2 minutes ago, Utebird said:

You seem to be stick on what Watson did or didn't do instead if focusing on the remark in the posted article.

That stated, " Lurie has his principles, except for when it comes to QB..."

Like I said for me just decreases the little respect I had fur Lurie.

 

Why should a remark, which is a subjective statement from the author, be taken as factual basis to "lose respect" for people -- other than lose respect for the author?  The author doesn't know any better than you or I whether Watson is guilty or innocent.  Only the criminal justice system will make that determination.  You should not be taking what you read in a published article to be gospel; these articles are editorial pieces, written from the point of view and agenda of the author.

I've been quite vocal against bringing Watson in since long before his legal issues.  His power move against the Texans organization points to a lack of leadership IMO, so I want no part of him as a franchise QB or team leader.  I've really formed no opinion on his pending lawsuits -- could be a money grab (they all have the same lawyer) or he could be an awful human being.  The truth almost always lands somewhere in between.

11 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I dont wish injury on any one but I'd be ok with Hurts stepping out of the shower the wrong way Sunday morning forcing Minshew to start

Kevin kolb-esque.

28 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

I didnt get that second point from the article at all.

What I got was that a couple of people that are 'familiar with his thinking' and then it goes on to talk about Vick

Some still haven’t gotten over the signing of Michael Vick just weeks after he was released from prison for running a dogfighting operation. The Eagles would be vindicated, to an extent, by his repentance, but the decision was primarily motivated by acquiring quarterbacking talent.

Lurie isn’t alone among NFL owners when it comes to the position, obviously. But few entertained the Vick notion, and subsequent investments speak to the extent that he will go, for better or worse.

To me that means that some people, that have not even spoken to Lurie about this, assumes that he pushed for Watson because he went after Vick when he was released from prison.

I would actually love to have the actual quotes and all the context behind what he got from the two sources and not a paraphrasing of what they said.

Because how it is written in that paragraph says it’s believed lurie was the driving force. So based off that article it seems like lurie was the one who wanted to go in on Watson based off his two sources and what they told mclane. 

**  the second takeaway quoted paragraph is from BGN who i assumed took it from the story. I could’ve put "believed” lurie was the driving force behind it before that but it’s still  the story putting out there from sources that lurie is the driving force behind that move for watson. 

9 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Why should a remark, which is a subjective statement from the author, be taken as factual basis to "lose respect" for people -- other than lose respect for the author?  The author doesn't know any better than you or I whether Watson is guilty or innocent.  Only the criminal justice system will make that determination.  You should not be taking what you read in a published article to be gospel; these articles are editorial pieces, written from the point of view and agenda of the author.

I've been quite vocal against bringing Watson in since long before his legal issues.  His power move against the Texans organization points to a lack of leadership IMO, so I want no part of him as a franchise QB or team leader.  I've really formed no opinion on his pending lawsuits -- could be a money grab (they all have the same lawyer) or he could be an awful human being.  The truth almost always lands somewhere in between.

The remark wasn't the authors, it was from what an alleged NFL " source" who used to work with the eagles said about Lurie.

Again as for what Watson did or didn't do is beside the point.

The point is the alleged comment, stating whether  Lurie sticks to his principles when it comes to qbs.

Now one can argue the authenticity of that comment and if true would cause me to lose the little respect I have for Lurie.

Like I said I'd normally under same circumstance give a person the benefit of doubt over what some " source" said but in this case why should I give Lowie the benefit of doubt over the alleged source.

What have Lowie don't lately personnel wise that I should trust their judgement or trust that they don't abandon their alleged principles when it suits their needs?

If Hurts can't run + no Howard, maybe no Scott, Sanders who will get hurt again after 2 carries + banged up Kelce and Herbig at RG could be a really ugly game.

@LeanMeanGM.

Eagles 23

Jets 13

Cox gets a sack

30 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Sure but all week? Usually what you see is LP the first two practices and then the last is a FP. I think he ends up playing but I also think the injury is more than nothing. 

I agree.  I didn't say it was nothing.  I said his COMMENT was more about gamesmanship than anything.  Hurts will play, but they don't want to tip their hand about how serious it is or isn't.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I agree.  I didn't say it was nothing.  I said his COMMENT was more about gamesmanship than anything.  Hurts will play, but they don't want to tip their hand about how serious it is or isn't.

Maybe he wants some Minshew Mania and he's doing his all to get it

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Maybe he wants some Minshew Mania and he's doing his all to get it

Let's hope.

If Hurts can’t beat the Jets with his arm, he shouldn’t be an NFL QB, and should have his agent call teams to see if they still want him as a RB. 

@LeanMeanGM

Eagles 52-10 

Minshew throws a TD pass while Hurts doesn’t 

54 minutes ago, olsilverhair said:

I wanna be first, jets beat the eagles

You have to tag leanmean and give a score prediction you taintsniff 

12 minutes ago, The Blackfish said:

If Hurts can’t beat the Jets with his arm, he shouldn’t be an NFL QB, and should have his agent call teams to see if they still want him as a RB. 

I mean he couldn't beat the Giants who were missing 2 out of their top 3 CB's. I wouldn't be surprised.

1 hour ago, Desertbirds said:

He is still a scumbag...

Yeah - I mean I don't want them to trade for him because he's a POS.  

@LeanMeanGM

Jets - 20

Eagles - 31

Bonus : Jason Huntley - 40+ yards rushing and a TD