12 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

 

This includes the game against the Giants.

 

This is why it's so odd for people to act like you can't win with a great running game when you're offense is so efficient with it. If anything a dominant running game demoralized the opposing defense more while also controlling the clock and keeping the defense rested. 

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Does no one see Reagor for a wide open touchdown???  Wiiiiide.   Open.

Unfortunately he wasn’t one of the primary receivers on the play. Instead he read the play as designed (I’m assuming based on the concept) and hit Goedert. 

8 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Does no one see Reagor for a wide open touchdown???  Wiiiiide.   Open.

Yeah orlavsky on the video attempts to explain why hurts wouldn't have pulled the trigger on that, a more experienced qb with a bigger arm Probably makes that throw, and I'm guessing reagor was probably the 4th option in the progression on that play, tough to tell but yeah he's wide open because the Corner I reading hurts and jumps the goedert route but goedert was just too big.

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

This is why it's so odd for people to act like you can't win with a great running game when you're offense is so efficient with it. If anything a dominant running game demoralized the opposing defense more while also controlling the clock and keeping the defense rested. 

We’re going to get into a game where the QB will have to carry the offense or at the very least be the engine. Can Hurts do it? 

9 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Does no one see Reagor for a wide open touchdown???  Wiiiiide.   Open.

 

You want to trust going to Reagor on 3rd down? 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

We’re going to get into a game where the QB will have to carry the offense or at the very least be the engine. Can Hurts do it? 

 

He does it every week. 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Unfortunately he wasn’t one of the primary receivers on the play. Instead he read the play as designed (I’m assuming based on the concept) and hit Goedert. 

Not sure how you can say that

It looks like hes looking right at the safety at the top of his drop back. Really, before Hurts even finished his drop Reagor has already won.

I understand he completed the pass. But Reagor was the easier read and throw IMO.   Hes locking onto guys, it just so happened that no one on WFT could even pretend to stay with Goedert so it no problem.  It wont always be that easy.

16 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Yes, the running game has carried the offense since they committed to it.

Amazing, what a run game can do when you actually commit to running the ball, when you have a good oline and TE. 

24 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

Sirianni scolded him after the fumble. I'm not sure what was said exactly, but I wouldn't say Hurts "started poorly." Nobody in their right mind is going to pin the INT on Hurts. That was a perfectly thrown pass that would have easily netted a first down. The team "started poorly."

So fumbling is "starting poorly?" C'mon man, give it a rest. The guy had a great game but it didn't start well. He keeps that up and he deserves to start again next year.  

I don’t care how wide open Reagor is and Goedert isn’t, throwing it to Goedert is the better play because he isn’t Reagor.

2 minutes ago, greend said:

So fumbling is "starting poorly?" C'mon man, give it a rest. The guy had a great game but it didn't start well. He keeps that up and he deserves to start again next year.  

 

His only bad play early on was the fumble.  Besides that he was hitting everything. 

5 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Yeah orlavsky on the video attempts to explain why hurts wouldn't have pulled the trigger on that, a more experienced qb with a bigger arm Probably makes that throw, and I'm guessing reagor was probably the 4th option in the progression on that play, tough to tell but yeah he's wide open because the Corner I reading hurts and jumps the goedert route but goedert was just too big.

Im actually not one of these guys who gets on Hurts for his arm strength.  I think his arm strength is fine---IF he can anticipate and read coverage

Of course the rocket arm guys can make up for being a little late.  But to me that can be a double edged sword, it hurt Wentz a lot because hed rely on his arm to bail him out instead of taking the (infamous) "layups"

But Id like to see Hurts speed up his decision making when the game calls for it.  There are times to wait and try to make a play, and there are times to just get the ball out your hand asap and take a profit. 

I hope the Dallas game means something.  If Hurts is going to start I want to see him play a defense he cant outrun

 

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

Not sure how you can say that

It looks like hes looking right at the safety at the top of his drop back. Really, before Hurts even finished his drop Reagor has already won.

I understand he completed the pass. But Reagor was the easier read and throw IMO.   Hes locking onto guys, it just so happened that no one on WFT could even pretend to stay with Goedert so it no problem.  It wont always be that easy.

I don’t really agree with your assessment of the play. Reagor in all likelihood is a clear out route. From my understanding, at least from other breakdowns I’ve watched, the high-low read is always the primary read. He made the correct football play. You can say it was the harder play, but that’s NFL open. There was no reason to avoid that throw. 

17 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Does no one see Reagor for a wide open touchdown???  Wiiiiide.   Open.

Did you watch the video? He explains why he thinks Hurts didn't go for that

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

His only bad play early on was the fumble.  Besides that he was hitting everything. 

Well then I guess Siri is just a big meanie. 

1 minute ago, Ipiggles said:

Amazing, what a run game can do when you actually commit to running the ball, when you have a good oline and TE. 

May be an unpopular opinion but trading ertz transformed this team in a good way.

They went from a finesse passing team to a smash mouth running team.

It's no coincidence with ertz as great as a pass catcher as he was he was an atrocious run blocker.

Jack stoll has picked up the reps in ertz absence and not only is stoll a much better blocker the QB also doesn't feel the need to force feed him the ball in the passing game as stoll is usually relegated to outlet duty.

The offense is more balanced in heavy sets 2,3 TEs when those TEs can actually block.

Been surprised at Jackson's blocking as well, hes not an elite run blocker but he's miles ahead if ertz as a blocker as well.

And Reagor drops the ball and people **** about why he was the main read. 
 

I’m not sold on Hurts, but there are several people that just can’t seem to give him any credit when he succeeds. It would be a huge relief and success if Hurts could develop even into an above average QB. I would love to see more consistency out of him over the next 3 games. If they make the playoffs, that gives the Eagles a great opportunity to see the overall development of the team.

 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I don’t really agree with your assessment of the play. Reagor in all likelihood is a clear out route. From my understanding, at least from other breakdowns I’ve watched, the high-low read is always the primary read. He made the correct football play. You can say it was the harder play, but that’s NFL open. There was no reason to avoid that throw. 

Hey fair enough

Im just saying, if it was a clear out, and hes looking at the safety which he appears to be doing, and the safety never clears out....

IMO a good QB makes that throw immediately and its an easy 6.  But it was a completion and it moved the chains so understood, its a positive play.

4 minutes ago, greend said:

Did you watch the video? He explains why he thinks Hurts didn't go for that

Well then I guess Siri is just a big meanie. 

 

Can you point out where else he did not play well those first couple drives besides the fumble? 

Rock Paper Scissors works

5 minutes ago, greend said:

Did you watch the video? He explains why he thinks Hurts didn't go for that

Yes, I get it, Orlovsky's "not thinking that throw"

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

Yes, I get it, Orlovsky's "not thinking that throw"

morning idiot

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Ok, Blog, do your thing. 

Hurts is having a good week, which he is capable of. What needs to happen is for him to have these types of games more consistently. We have yet to see that sustained, hopefully we do.

I think with Hurts and our OL, we should have a quality run game every week, but in the playoffs (theoretically) we’re going to have high-leverage plays where the QB will have to sustain drives on third down, or make difficult plays in the red zone or make up for a holding call that gets the O off schedule. Those are the plays that separate QBs. 

Hurts has to show he can do that. 

Just now, ManuManu said:

I think with Hurts and our OL, we should have a quality run game every week, but in the playoffs (theoretically) we’re going to have high-leverage plays where the QB will have to sustain drives on third down, or make difficult plays in the red zone or make up for a holding call that gets the O off schedule. Those are the plays that separate QBs. 

Hurts has to show he can do that. 

he cant do that, he is a career backup if that, we need a qb 

6 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I see the opposite. 

I think MOST* people are not sold on him and judge him fairly more times than not. 

Hurts "succeeding" was under 300 yards, 2 turnovers, zero throwing touchdowns, against a really bad defense who was also impacted player wise and coach wise by Covid. 

You wanna crown him..crown him

Like I said, I’m not sold on him and also don’t think he is a long term solution, but there are several people who refuse to acknowledge any success he has had.

33 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Yeah orlavsky on the video attempts to explain why hurts wouldn't have pulled the trigger on that, a more experienced qb with a bigger arm Probably makes that throw, and I'm guessing reagor was probably the 4th option in the progression on that play, tough to tell but yeah he's wide open because the Corner I reading hurts and jumps the goedert route but goedert was just too big.

Plus, it’s Raegor