1 hour ago, Thrive said:

 

Well, when you throw most of your passes behind the line of scrimmage....

24 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

But it's been extremely obvious all season and especially as of late that you desperately don't want to see the Eagles make the playoffs and you're rooting against it.  

Find an example or someone to back up this pathetic claim

30 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Difference is that I never rooted against the Eagles when Foles was QB.  I just didn't want him as QB over Wentz like many on the board did after the Super Bowl.  

I have looked at the old board archive, you were asked 20+ times before you said you wanted the Nick Foles to win a Super Bowl

44 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Because I can be honest about the quarterback skills, and don’t like the GM, means I hate the team? You really are a clown.

And do you want to talk about hating the team, I’m not the guy who got banned from the teams official message board for trashing on the quarterback who won the team a Super Bowl.

What's ironic is how he is criticizing someone else for not caring about the team when over the YEARS he has demonstrated that he cares more for individual players (or has irrational hatred for them) than the TEAM.  He takes his man crushes way too far to the point it's pathological.  I bet if you put a test tube of water up for sale on eBay and said it was Hurts' ball sweat that RTK would have the highest bid for it.  F'ing sicko.

 

2 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

yet in completion % he's ahead of only NO (Hill/Winston/Siemian), Lawrence, Fields, Zach Wilson, Darnold -- so he's 27th in the NFL

Either all the other NFL teams boast HOF WR talent and are catching slews of inaccurate throws ......... , or something isn't adding up with those stats

He's 14th in net yards per attempt, so he's not padding his stats with a lot of dumpoffs.

5 minutes ago, austinfan said:

He's 14th in net yards per attempt, so he's not padding his stats with a lot of dumpoffs.

What about air yards per completion ??

46 minutes ago, downundermike said:

What about air yards per completion ??

According to pro-football-reference.com:

CAY/PA

Completed air yards per pass attempt - Air yards (on completed passes) per pass attempt

3.8 - Rank:  17th

CAY/Cmp

Completed air yards per completion - Yards the ball traveled in the air past the LoS prior to a completion

6.2 - Rank:  10th

He's also 7th in YAC/Cmp at 5.6 - Pass yards after catch per completion

So his WRs are getting good YAC for him.

EDIT:

This is the same site that 4for4's favourite muppet got his stats about Hurts' On Target % and Poor Pass % and the numbers don't add up to me.

completions:  248

attempts:  406

on target passes:  301 - 78.6%

receiver drops:  22

So that's a difference of 53 between completions and on target passes, but only 22 drops which leaves 31 'on target' passes unaccounted for.  No way is that 31 DPIs that would have been on target passes.  That's way too many.

Conclusion:  This site might be as bad as PFF.

BTW, Hurts ranks higher in the above categories than Brady, Rodgers, and Mahomes.  We all know they are better QBs than Hurts so just the stats by themselves don't tell the whole story and you always need context to go with the numbers.

 

10 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

According to pro-football-reference.com:

CAY/PA

Completed air yards per pass attempt - Air yards (on completed passes) per pass attempt

3.8

CAY/Cmp

Completed air yards per completion - Yards the ball traveled in the air past the LoS prior to a completion

6.2

 

What about estimated air depth of target over expected value past the LOS adjusted for defensive average volume of quality opponents yards per attempt? Probably 1st 

15 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

According to pro-football-reference.com:

CAY/PA

Completed air yards per pass attempt - Air yards (on completed passes) per pass attempt

3.8

CAY/Cmp

Completed air yards per completion - Yards the ball traveled in the air past the LoS prior to a completion

6.2

 

How does completed air yard per attempt rank ??

9 minutes ago, downundermike said:

How does completed air yard per attempt rank ??

Updated my post above.

 

12 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

What about estimated air depth of target over expected value past the LOS adjusted for defensive average volume of quality opponents yards per attempt? Probably 1st 

Well, there is a stat for IAY/PA - Intended air yards per pass attempt - Average depth of target, whether completed or not

8.9 - Rank:  4th

So we throw the ball downfield often, though those of us with eyes know his deep balls can be shot out of the air by guys with shotguns, birdshot, and waterfowl decoys.

 

2nd chance for those who might of missed this breakdown of Swag vs. WAS.

 

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

Find an example or someone to back up this pathetic claim

 

You spent all day yesterday why you want the Eagles to miss the playoffs.  

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

I have looked at the old board archive, you were asked 20+ times before you said you wanted the Nick Foles to win a Super Bowl

 

Of course you did.  What a pathetic existence you got there.  

3 hours ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

I'd hate to see another go at WR in RD1. I think we go defense.

For me Jameson Williams is awfully tempting if he's there, him and Smith would have elite potential as a duo. But I think he's gone by the mid to late teens anyways now. 

I own rtk

3 minutes ago, olsilverhair said:

I own rtk

Everyone owns rtk.  You are 487th on the list.

Koy, learning that someone said something critical about Hurts: 

 

 

5 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Not that zimmer is a good coach but i think the biggest issue with that team is their FO believing cousins was going to take them to the next level. Then doubling down on the stupid and extending him. They basically got themselves stuck in that contract and in purgatory 

Didn't Jefferson say last year he was glad Philly didn't draft him?

Hope he enjoys Minnesota for years to come.

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I wouldn’t call the Eagles a juggernaut themselves.  And what else is the guy supposed to say?  

Foles in a skol chant. Lol

29 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Didn't Jefferson say last year he was glad Philly didn't draft him?

Hope he enjoys Minnesota for years to come.

Watching it crash and burn for them would be satiating. It won't erase the catastrophic failure of drafting Reagor over him, but still.

2 hours ago, Green_Guinness said:

According to pro-football-reference.com:

CAY/PA

Completed air yards per pass attempt - Air yards (on completed passes) per pass attempt

3.8 - Rank:  17th

CAY/Cmp

Completed air yards per completion - Yards the ball traveled in the air past the LoS prior to a completion

6.2 - Rank:  10th

He's also 7th in YAC/Cmp at 5.6 - Pass yards after catch per completion

So his WRs are getting good YAC for him.

EDIT:

This is the same site that 4for4's favourite muppet got his stats about Hurts' On Target % and Poor Pass % and the numbers don't add up to me.

completions:  248

attempts:  406

on target passes:  301 - 78.6%

receiver drops:  22

So that's a difference of 53 between completions and on target passes, but only 22 drops which leaves 31 'on target' passes unaccounted for.  No way is that 31 DPIs that would have been on target passes.  That's way too many.

Conclusion:  This site might be as bad as PFF.

BTW, Hurts ranks higher in the above categories than Brady, Rodgers, and Mahomes.  We all know they are better QBs than Hurts so just the stats by themselves don't tell the whole story and you always need context to go with the numbers.

 

They don’t account for the defender for on target throws so the 53 is likely PBU’s and other stuff as such. I wouldn’t be surprised if they said the third INT against the Giants was "on target” but the defender jumped the route and picked the ball. 

1 hour ago, Green_Guinness said:

Well, there is a stat for IAY/PA - Intended air yards per pass attempt - Average depth of target, whether completed or not

8.9 - Rank:  4th

So we throw the ball downfield often, though those of us with eyes know his deep balls can be shot out of the air by guys with shotguns, birdshot, and waterfowl decoys.

 

I was just adding as many analytical stat words I could in a sentence lol 

34 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I wouldn’t call the Eagles a juggernaut themselves.  And what else is the guy supposed to say?  

Didn't have to say nothing.   

Could have just said the usual BS......I'm happy to be here in Minnesota, blah, blah, blah.

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

They don’t account for the defender for on target throws so the 53 is likely PBU’s 

I was just adding as many analytical stat words I could in a sentence lol 

Yeah, I knew you were making ish up, lol.

Forgot about PBUs.  I guess the combo of DPIs and PBUs to total the 31 unaccounted on target passes could be plausible.  Especially since Hurts lacks route anticipation and the DBs get a better opportunity for a PBU.  I don't recall seeing a stat for PBUs against, but if they kept that stat I wonder where Hurts would rank?  Guessing he'd be top 5 for most PBUs against.  Again, context.

 

On 12/28/2021 at 6:56 PM, TorontoEagle said:

Jackson and McPhearson haven’t done much of anything. Williams has been solid.

Gainwell has flashed way more than all three combined. His usage has diminished, but even in an extremely limited role, he’s still producing. 

 

 

Horse manure.  Let’s take last game, for example.  Even with Sanders going out with a broken hand and Howard leaving with a stinger, Gainwell got 2 snaps.  In contrast, McPhearson got 27, Jackson got 36.  Both showed up on the stat line more than Gainwell.  McPhearson has been the third outside CB all season and got in whenever they needed for Slay or Nelson.   So far, he has held off Gowan, Vincent, McCain Jackson has been a consistent rotational DE all season and has seen his snaps increase.

Gainwell is entrenched as the fourth RB.   I like his potential but his production has been limited most games. The anointing of a level of success not yet shown is ridiculous.   He is as likely to be out of the league in two years as being on a roster at this point.  

Now, in fairness, Gainwell, like Gowan and Vincent all took last year off because of Covid.  I like the potential in all three, so it should be interesting how they perform next summer.

11 hours ago, Ipiggles said:

It's a debate about Government funding for schools. The Government basically gives money for your kids to a school they say the kids must attend depending on where you live, unless you wish to move or pay to send them some where else. This of course means that a lot of underpriviligded children go to basic inner city school systems (where they dont always have a good opprtunity) As not all schools are created equal, and in fact it's quite glaring. 

The school choice idea - the parents get to decide where their children go, (can pick a better school) and the Government pays that school the money for your child. The parent can choose what is best for their child. 

This brings up the level of competition between schools to actually do a good job teaching, or fail and collapse altogether. To the very least allows you to choose out of a bad school system and into a better one so your child has an actual equal opportunity to learn no matter of your level of income. 

 

Teachers unions are opposed to this. 

In my day, school choice translated into the white kids not going where the POC kids went and little money and resources went to those schools that were primarily minorities.  The poorer neighborhoods didn’t have the money to send their kids anywhere other than the nearby school because of transportation.  In my own neighborhood, the school we were assigned to was "integrated ",  in truth not more than 20% of the school was POC.  Every kid in my neighborhood except my sister, me and two other kids went to a choice school that was 100% white.  Their parents paid for the buses that took them to school. That rubbed my folks the wrong way and we went to the designated school.  Tough on us for friends, but it was the right choice.  Your definition is pie in the sky version sold by the same folks that paid for that bus for their kids.