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Eagles 28, 9ers 24

Prediction : Gainwell is more productive than Sanders with almost equal touches, and the RB controversy begins.

1 hour ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

For Dickerson to see the field he'd either need to supplant Seumalo or wait until next season and possibly replace Kelce.

I look at Brooks' and Lane's contracts and can't figure out how they can effective get out of either of them.  And based on this past Sunday, why in the world would we want Kelce to retire?

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

You’re not.

21 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

If the Eagles were going to trade for an expensive LB, it'd be Jordan Hicks for like a 2023 7th. No way they're giving up anything of value for a 29-year-old LB. Even if they shock everybody and start 7-0, they aren't doing that.

I thought Kendricks was only making like $10 million/season for next 3-4 years?

21 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

You never know.  The narrative ever since last season ended was there was no way Ertz is an Eagle this year and guess what, here he is starting.  Is he an Eagle because he truly bought in to Sirianni and the new culture being build around Jalen Hurts, or is he an Eagle only because Howie can't get more than a 5th for him?  We don't know. 

Maybe, just maybe, the culture that DP had built with Carson just grew incredibly stale and Ertz and Kelce (Wentz's best buds) thought they needed to go if the changes included getting rid of Carson.  However, Hurts has taken this team and become a leader of men at his young age, and Sirianni could be on to something with the way he handles his team.  Maybe Ertz and Kelce have totally bought in to the new way of things being done here.  Even the biggest Carson supporters (I'm one of them) can't deny that there appears to be a total lack of drama surrounding this team for the first time in what seems to be 3 years.  That has to be refreshing for everyone in the locker room.

Kelce looked dominant on Sunday.  He hasn't looked that good in some time.  The thing with Kelce is that he doesn't need the NFL.  He's going to have a long post-NFL career weather it's in the booth, as analyst or some other entrepreneurial idea he has.  Walking away from the game healthy is important for him.  My gut tells me that the Eagles surprise a lot this year and either make the Wild Card or just miss the playoffs.  Kelce see this as one last opportunity to make a run with a young QB and WR group.  Howie/Siranni talk to Kelce, rework his contract and trade Brandon Brooks.  Dickerson is plugged in at RG while Kelce gives us another 2 years. 

 

 

I think the truth on Ertz is somewhere in between. The Eagles let the agent explore a trade.  Now they weren’t going to give Ertz away for free but I also suspect that the agent also found out when he presented his client’s compensation expectations that the market was dry as to that cost plus the trade compensation required.  I truly believe towards the end of last season that Ertz realized he overestimated his value.  I suspect the compensation packages offered may have been in line with what Howie offered.  I think that Ertz will play well this season and may increase his value  after last season, if he can stay healthy. 

4 minutes ago, downundermike said:

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Eagles 28, 9ers 24

Prediction : Gainwell is more productive than Sanders with almost equal touches, and the RB controversy begins.

I can’t see that prediction happening at all. Gainwell looked solid but Sanders is pro bowl level when he’s on.

23 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

If the Eagles were going to trade for an expensive LB, it'd be Jordan Hicks for like a 2023 7th. No way they're giving up anything of value for a 29-year-old LB. Even if they shock everybody and start 7-0, they aren't doing that.

Hicks played 95% of AZ’s snaps on Sunday. He’s not going anywhere anytime soon 

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49ers 17

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11 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I can’t see that prediction happening at all. Gainwell looked solid but Sanders is pro bowl level when he’s on.

Until Sanders gets dinged, again.

16 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Whole Foods is a retailer.  The actual logistics are much more complex than most retailers deal with and as it happens, Whole Foods is owned by one of the largest logistics operations on the planet.  The fact is that the waste factor on fresh foods is tremendous. Maybe look at where you fresh produce is produced.  It says it right on the little sticker.  In the last month we have gone from blueberries from Maine and Michigan to California and are about a month or two away from Mexico and Chile.  Right now the cantaloupe are from Colorado.  Soon warmer climates and south of the border.  Now non American products were not the focus of the original Food Stamp program. Should it be now?  You started with the premise of why not give away fresh food instead of money.  I mentioned the original Food Stamp program which did focus on surplus agricultural products.  There was literally a list of products that could be purchased with the blue stamps.  That morphed into SNAP, with very limited restrictions on what food could be purchased with the stamps and now cards.  Surplus is difficult to store and distribute.   Produce just doesn’t keep. Dairy and meats require refrigeration. The logistics of giving fresh are difficult.  So we have SNAP and let the consumer decide what to purchase.  

Which is the mistake.

give the bad decision makers the decision making authority? What could possibly go wrong…

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24-20 Niners

19 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Hicks played 95% of AZ’s snaps on Sunday. He’s not going anywhere anytime soon 

Good call. Thought they replaced him with Zaven Collins, but I haven't been paying a ton of attention to the Cards.

It's all moot anyway because the Eagles are not trading for an expensive LB.

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Nines - 31

Eagles - 3

 

BONUS: Raegor fumbles more then once.

7 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Until Sanders gets dinged, again.

I kind of see the Eagles using gainwell and sanders similarly to how the Colts used hines and Taylor last year. Hines got on average about 10 touches per game. Meanwhile Taylor got about 18 per game on average. 

Niners - 17

Eagles- 13

 

In a slop fest on offense for both teams the defense has to keep them in it. 

Bold prediction: interception for Slay and 2 sacks for Barnett. 

10 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Well it’s the lions, down their best corner and with a rookie head coach. I would be surprised if he doesnt. I still think the packers win that division. Mainly cause everyone else isn’t very good. I also think they win 10-11 wins just cause if their talent and likely 5-1 in the division. I just don’t think when they face a good team in the playoffs they advance. Plus i bet behind the scenes it’s a nightmare all season long. 

honest question since LaFleur has taken over how many times have the packers played a SB contender type team and get absolutely destroyed? I know the niners twice in 2019 and bucs regular season last year. The Saints depending on what Jameis is. The Saints have talent on that roster. If Jameis is competent, limits his mistakes and plays well they have the roster around him to be a contender. Then again he could also implode like he has in the past

This has been an issue for them and Rodgers ever since that SB win.  

As great as he is it just seems something is missing with him when it comes to big games.  He really should have more than 1 SB for how good he is.  

46 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I think the truth on Ertz is somewhere in between. The Eagles let the agent explore a trade.  Now they weren’t going to give Ertz away for free but I also suspect that the agent also found out when he presented his client’s compensation expectations that the market was dry as to that cost plus the trade compensation required.  I truly believe towards the end of last season that Ertz realized he overestimated his value.  I suspect the compensation packages offered may have been in line with what Howie offered.  I think that Ertz will play well this season and may increase his value  after last season, if he can stay healthy. 

The problem for Ertz is while he's an excellent receiver, he's probably a 4.8 guy at this point in his career (4.68 coming into the league), so he doesn't threaten defenses deep down the seam.

And he's an atrocious blocker, Which means he's simply not a top ten TE anymore, he's 30 and teams look at him more as a 1 year, #2 TE/H-back. And those guys don't get paid.

6 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

This has been an issue for them and Rodgers ever since that SB win.  

As great as he is it just seems something is missing with him when it comes to big games.  He really should have more than 1 SB for how good he is.  

It’s amazing the super bowl they did win he and the packers were the 6 seed when they did so. I think rodgers has been part of the issue. I also think McCarthy is a below average HC that won a lot of games simply cause rodgers was really good. I also think you got that onside game where the TE couldn’t just grab the ball (nfc title game) and their defense has had issues in the past where they just get gashed in playoff games against kaepernick and Jimmy G while rodgers also played poorly. 

6 minutes ago, austinfan said:

The problem for Ertz is while he's an excellent receiver, he's probably a 4.8 guy at this point in his career (4.68 coming into the league), so he doesn't threaten defenses deep down the seam.

Ertz is a slot WR. He shouldn't be playing as the solo TE, but in 2 TE sets where he can play outside the hashes.

5 minutes ago, austinfan said:

The problem for Ertz is while he's an excellent receiver, he's probably a 4.8 guy at this point in his career (4.68 coming into the league), so he doesn't threaten defenses deep down the seam.

And he's an atrocious blocker, Which means he's simply not a top ten TE anymore, he's 30 and teams look at him more as a 1 year, #2 TE/H-back. And those guys don't get paid.

Yup, Ertz has never been a good blocker, he's not going to be phased out as a pass catcher like Celek and be a really good blocker.

If he doesn't block and has regressed as a pass catcher then what value does he have.

I thought he played ok against the falcons, he was useless as a blocker per usual he got wide open on the one long pass and I'm not sure he did anything special or it was just a blown coverage, better throw and he probably scores buy other than that he didn't really do much.

54 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I think the truth on Ertz is somewhere in between. The Eagles let the agent explore a trade.  Now they weren’t going to give Ertz away for free but I also suspect that the agent also found out when he presented his client’s compensation expectations that the market was dry as to that cost plus the trade compensation required.  I truly believe towards the end of last season that Ertz realized he overestimated his value.  I suspect the compensation packages offered may have been in line with what Howie offered.  I think that Ertz will play well this season and may increase his value  after last season, if he can stay healthy. 

The tight end market is very overpriced right now. There’s no way anyone can convince me Austin hooper is worth $11 mil a year, jonnu smith and Hunter henry are worth $12.5 mil per year. I like Henry but hes very injury prone. Not as good of a receiver as ertz. Also a below average blocker.  I get it’s about guaranteed money. Smith got 31 and i believe Henry got $25. But still their average annual is way overpriced. I actually think if ertz got to free agency before last year he would’ve gotten what he wanted. Unfortunately for him he was still under contract for two more years and that likely cost him the money he could’ve gotten. 

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

You aren’t alone. I thought they should’ve left him on NFI to start the season and let him recover a little more from his injury. It happened in December and he’s had so many injuries in the past. With him having so many injuries i just would’ve been more cautious and just given him the extended time to heal. I’m hoping they don’t have to use him this year because it means everyone stayed healthy 

Yup.  He would have had to stay there through Week 6.  Well, here we are in Week 2, and he was still on the injured list.    (Same is true of McLeod... I don't get why they activated him as well.  And he was also on the injured list for Week 1.) 

If they stay there, we'll see what real benefit they had by adding them to the roster.   Would have enabled them to kick the tires on a couple more players than they did.

2 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

For Dickerson to see the field he'd either need to supplant Seumalo or wait until next season and possibly replace Kelce.

I look at Brooks' and Lane's contracts and can't figure out how they can effective get out of either of them.  And based on this past Sunday, why in the world would we want Kelce to retire?

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Not necessarily.   They could use him in a 6OL jumbo set rather than 3 TEs.   And if they wanted to, they could just plug him in at RG or LG and bump Seumalo out to TE (which he's done in the past) or Brooks out to TE (which he hasn't)... or just push Brooks to 'RT' and bump Lane out to TE.  Lots of options there, ultimately.   But, he could see the field early in the year in that capacity and get some reps.   Also, he could be used for FG and PATs along the line, again to get some reps.

2 hours ago, BigEFly said:

It isn’t about playing for Dickerson, it is about practice. He hasn’t practiced with the team throughout the PS.  If they left him on NFI, he couldn’t practice with the team until week 6. I think when they selected Dickerson, they didn’t really fathom what Herbig was doing to reshape himself.  I suspect he is stronger and maybe shave a few tenths off his forty time now.  Regardless, Dickerson is a better athlete and is probably targeted as the active back up C/G at some point this year. 

Speaking of OL.  It is interesting that Herbig, Dillard and Toth all saw snaps on the PAT/FG teams.  Gets them some live snaps and keeps them in playing shape.  Scott, Ward and JJAW were all participants in STs as well.  Sirriani used every active player.  Smart use of the roster. 

Limited practice, that is.   I get that he hasn't practiced.  But, he needs every opportunity to be sure he's healed properly.  The guy just can't seem to stay healthy.  And I'm not really even worried about him for a full 16 17 game schedule.  I am more worried about him for year 2, year 3, year 4, etc.   Sure, he might play a full slate of games for one season, but can he string together 2 seasons?  3 seasons?   (Minor dings aside, I'm worried about major injuries, like he's had a lot in college.)   

21 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

It’s amazing the super bowl they did win he and the packers were the 6 seed when they did so. I think rodgers has been part of the issue. I also think McCarthy is a below average HC that won a lot of games simply cause rodgers was really good. I also think you got that onside game where the TE couldn’t just grab the ball (nfc title game) and their defense has had issues in the past where they just get gashed in playoff games against kaepernick and Jimmy G while rodgers also played poorly. 

When Rodgers won that SB 10 plus years ago, most fans were thinking this guy is going to win a bunch of rings.  Hasn't been the case.

It's why when I hear people say Mahomes is going to win a ton of rings.  Well I don't know.  Wouldn't surprise me if Mahomes ends his career with just 1 or 2 rings instead of 5 or more like some are expecting.