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1 hour ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

" The logistics for fresh food is incredibly hard." - Whole Foods does it every single day.

And how expensive is that?

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Speaking of OL topics related to Dickerson... Was last Sunday the best game of Isaac Seumalo's career? He seemed to actually be playing up to the level of the elite guys for once.

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9 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Yup.  He would have had to stay there through Week 6.  Well, here we are in Week 2, and he was still on the injured list.    (Same is true of McLeod... I don't get why they activated him as well.  And he was also on the injured list for Week 1.) 

If they stay there, we'll see what real benefit they had by adding them to the roster.   Would have enabled them to kick the tires on a couple more players than they did.

They want them to participate in practice.

I believe Steichen noted how having McLeod run the scout team helped in preparation for week 1.  Couldn't have done that if he was on PUP.

I think we are over-remembering the Alshon fiasco last year.  I expect to see these guys on the field in a week or so.

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The tight end market is very overpriced right now. There’s no way anyone can convince me Austin hooper is worth $11 mil a year, jonnu smith and Hunter henry are worth $12.5 mil per year. I like Henry but hes very injury prone. Not as good of a receiver as ertz. Also a below average blocker.  I get it’s about guaranteed money. Smith got 31 and i believe Henry got $25. But still their average annual is way overpriced. I actually think if ertz got to free agency before last year he would’ve gotten what he wanted. Unfortunately for him he was still under contract for two more years and that likely cost him the money he could’ve gotten. 

Yup, guys like Kelce and kittle getting big bucks at TE set the market, problem is guys like hooper and Jonnu aren't any where near guys like Kelce and kittle.

Kelce is really just a big WR hes not a good in line blocker but is rarely asked to in line block, but instead of being listed as what he is, a big slot receiver he's listed as a TE making number one WR money.

If I'm paying my TE top money he better be a focal point of my offense or a really good blocker and receiver.

Hooper and Smith aren't there but still benefit in contract negotiations because of the market Kelce a big WR set for TEs.

Ertz would benefit as well if he were 5 years younger but at this point he's a regressing player and no one is going to pay him for past production.

 

1 hour ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

Nah. They can go to Whole Foods to pick up fresh food.

Who can?  Where are the Whole Foods?   Are there any in Kensington?    Chester?  Camden?

8 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

When Rodgers won that SB 10 plus years ago, most fans were thinking this guy is going to win a bunch of rings.  Hasn't been the case.

It's why when I hear people say Mahomes is going to win a ton of rings.  Well I don't know.  Wouldn't surprise me if Mahomes ends his career with just 1 or 2 rings instead of 5 or more like some are expecting.

Tbh mahomes has reid who has his issues but i trust a hell of a lot more than any of the coaches rodgers has had in his career. McCarthy and LaFleur aren’t exactly doing much for me. I think rodgers has made them look better than what they are. Not only that i actually love what the chiefs did to revamp that oline this offseason.  i thought that was their biggest flaw and weakness. If CEH and hardman take the next steps in their development that team becomes even more dangerous.  

mahomes has already been to back to back Super Bowls. If not for his defensive end jumping offsides his first three years as a starter in the league he would’ve made 3 straight Super Bowls. Maybe he doesn’t win more than 2 rings but i see the chiefs at least getting to more Super Bowls. The second best team on the AFC right now might be Cleveland. And i don’t trust baker mayfield to make plays when the game is on the line. I feel like the last two losses to the chiefs he had to make plays in crunch time and he couldn’t. As much as i like josh allen since he’s come out of Wyoming, his 2020 may or may not have been a fluke. And i just don’t think Buffalo is as good as KC. If he were in the nfc right now i think it’s a harder challenge. 

1 minute ago, Saltpeter said:

Speaking of OL topics related to Dickerson... Was last Sunday the best game of Isaac Seumalo's career? He seemed to actually be playing up to the level of the elite guys for once.

Being sandwiched between Mailata and Kelce who played great can't hurt, but yeah seumalo played well.

Key for him is being consistent, he's had good games in the past followed up by complete stinkers and a really bad game followed up by a really good game.

He got totally embarrassed last time he played the falcons so it was nice that he bounced back.

25 minutes ago, RLC said:

Ertz is a slot WR. He shouldn't be playing as the solo TE, but in 2 TE sets where he can play outside the hashes.

Your right on that.  Ertz plays out his contract this season.  If he does well, his value in the market may bump up a bit, but probably not as high as he would like it.

Noticed the team put 3 TEs on the field, at least once in the Falcons game.  Neither of them got the pass on that play.  Kind of the novel line-up.

4 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

They want them to participate in practice.

I believe Steichen noted how having McLeod run the scout team helped in preparation for week 1.  Couldn't have done that if he was on PUP.

I think we are over-remembering the Alshon fiasco last year.  I expect to see these guys on the field in a week or so.

Recency bias is real, no doubt.    And I get the wanting him to practice.   I just wonder how much practice Dickerson can really get in his 'limited' role.  I don't know... I didn't like the pick where they made it and I don't like what has happened so far.   I'm definitely biased, I just didn't see the logic.  Dickerson is a great talent, with a giant risk attached to him.

49ers getting some extra insight into the Eagles play book this week. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Yup, guys like Kelce and kittle getting big bucks at TE set the market, problem is guys like hooper and Jonnu aren't any where near guys like Kelce and kittle.

Kelce is really just a big WR hes not a good in line blocker but is rarely asked to in line block, but instead of being listed as what he is, a big slot receiver he's listed as a TE making number one WR money.

If I'm paying my TE top money he better be a focal point of my offense or a really good blocker and receiver.

Hooper and Smith aren't there but still benefit in contract negotiations because of the market Kelce a big WR set for TEs.

Ertz would benefit as well if he were 5 years younger but at this point he's a regressing player and no one is going to pay him for past production.

 

There is a scenario where we choose to let Goedert walk and sign Ertz to a team-friendly deal.

This let's Ertz play out his career here.  He is still effective and would be a nice compliment to the young WR corps we are building.  Jackson/Stoll could then develop as the heir apparent while still providing the option to run 12 personnel if desired.

I don't have a real opinion on this yet.  But it has some merits.

Just a few odds and ends.

I really like how Hurts sets up in the shotgun. He's lower, he gives the center a clear target and, because he sets lower, he can handle an errant snap more easily because the variance on the snaps will be less. I believe Kelce had one low snap the entire day.

We've had a lot of talk about 12 personnel. Well, the eagles ran quite a bit of 13 personnel on Sunday. Three TEs, generally with good effect. Stoll had 12 offensive snaps at TE; he's a player I like.

Nick Bosa vs. Jordan Mailata next week. That should be fun to watch.

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

It’s amazing the super bowl they did win he and the packers were the 6 seed when they did so. I think rodgers has been part of the issue. I also think McCarthy is a below average HC that won a lot of games simply cause rodgers was really good. I also think you got that onside game where the TE couldn’t just grab the ball (nfc title game) and their defense has had issues in the past where they just get gashed in playoff games against kaepernick and Jimmy G while rodgers also played poorly. 

In last year's NFCCG vs the Bucs, Brady threw 3 INTs and how many RZ chances did Rodgers have where he couldn't get a TD, three at least?  Four?  He had multiple chances in that game and failed to convert. 

Out of curiosity, I checked his stats to see if there's any difference between regular season and post season.  I used a 16 game average for both and these are the results:

Regular season:  357 comp, 549 attempts, 65.0 comp%, 4276 yards, 7.79 YPA, 34.4  TDs, 7.5 INTs

Playoffs:  385 comp, 596 attempts, 64.6 comp%, 4535 yards, 7.60  YPA, 36 TDs, 10.4 INTs

Really not much difference aside from his attempts (+8.5%, but only averages to 3 more attempts per game), yards and INTs (+38.7%) go up and his YPA goes down slightly.  So it seems in the playoffs the GB O coaching staff relies a little more on him than during the regular season with the only stat that changes much is his INTs.  

With the stats he has put up he probably should have won more than 1 SB.  I'm sure there were playoff games where he played well and the D let the team down just like how in last year's NFCCG the D picked the GOAT 3 times and Rodgers failed multiple times in the RZ.  It's more than just talent and performance.  You also need timing and some luck as well.

 

7 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

They want them to participate in practice.

I believe Steichen noted how having McLeod run the scout team helped in preparation for week 1.  Couldn't have done that if he was on PUP.

I think we are over-remembering the Alshon fiasco last year.  I expect to see these guys on the field in a week or so.

I think the difference for me with McLeod and Landon Dickerson is that McLeod doesn’t really have a long-term future with the Eagles. He comes back and gets injured again because he came back to you soon its really only a short term problem for the eagles. Because the odds are after 2022 he’s not here anyways. Really could post June 1st cut mcleod and move on next offseason and save some money.

Dickerson he has a full career ahead of them and the eagles really need him long term. Him coming back, playing less than 9 months removed from having his surgery along with having a ton of injuries in college is more risky then they need to be. I rather him get the necessary time to heal and bring him back slowly. A guy with that many injuries I’m not rushing back just so he can practice for 6 weeks when we are supposedly in a rebuilding year anyway and we have a healthy oline and decent options as backups until he came off NFI

11 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Speaking of OL topics related to Dickerson... Was last Sunday the best game of Isaac Seumalo's career? He seemed to actually be playing up to the level of the elite guys for once.

Well, if you'd been paying attention for the last couple of years you'd have seen how good he has become. I've said it over and over. I remember how thoroughly Grady Jarrett trashed him in his first start. Quite the opposite last Sunday. 

But yeah, the whole left side completely dominated Atlanta.

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2 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Just a few odds and ends.

I really like how Hurts sets up in the shotgun. He's lower, he gives the center a clear target and, because he sets lower, he can handle an errant snap more easily because the variance on the snaps will be less. I believe Kelce had one low snap the entire day.

We've had a lot of talk about 12 personnel. Well, the eagles ran quite a bit of 13 personnel on Sunday. Three TEs, generally with good effect. Stoll had 12 offensive snaps at TE; he's a player I like.

Nick Bosa vs. Jordan Mailata next week. That should be fun to watch.

Listening to a podcast I learned that they ran 13 personnel 8 times.  Some of Stoll's snaps were when Ertz was out.

Interesting that they ran 13 as their "heavy" look on short yardage rather than a sixth OL.  I would be surprised if they didn't also have that in their arsenal.

2 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Just a few odds and ends.

I really like how Hurts sets up in the shotgun. He's lower, he gives the center a clear target and, because he sets lower, he can handle an errant snap more easily because the variance on the snaps will be less. I believe Kelce had one low snap the entire day.

We've had a lot of talk about 12 personnel. Well, the eagles ran quite a bit of 13 personnel on Sunday. Three TEs, generally with good effect. Stoll had 12 offensive snaps at TE; he's a player I like.

Nick Bosa vs. Jordan Mailata next week. That should be fun to watch.

Looking at Indy, I think Sirianni may see TE as a volume position, that is, you want 3 or 4 guys with complementary skills rather than pay for one "star"

Stoll got his share of snaps, and Jackson was kept on the 53 on IR so he can return the second half of the season. I think they see Jackson as Ertz's replacement.

Goedert is a tough call, they'd like to keep him, but not sure he's worth the $14M or so that he's probably asking for. If they like what they see in Stoll and Jackson, I could see them bringing in a veteran and some middle round/UDFAs this summer and let both Ertz and Goedert walk.

1 hour ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

Nah. They can go to Whole Foods to pick up fresh food.

So take the choice out of SNAP purchasers hands and make them go for distribution (not purchase because your first post stated that) of fresh foods from Whole Foods?  Sucks for those recipients not near a Whole Foods.  Nearest one to me is in another county and I live in the sixth most populated county in PA..  Round trip is about 75 miles, which goes to my earlier point about fresh produce not being accessible nor available year round to many impoverished people in our country because the logistics and cost outweigh the profits of making such available.  Don’t worry about me, a huge international grocer (Ahold) operates here, so does the biggest grocer in the US (Walmart - awful produce) and a family owned associated grocer.  I have produce available.  

But go to the poorer neighborhoods in inner cities and find out what grocers are close by (accessible by foot or public transportation) and what they offer.  Most people don’t realize that a disproportionate amount of people per population for SNAP are rural. Well, Dollar General (no produce) is displacing rural grocers and even where they aren’t, check out the produce department in rural grocers.  When you drive 100 miles to the big grocer that has produce or even 50 miles round trip with gas over $3.00, you aren’t going every week.  

Well rural means farming, right?  My fall lettuce will last until the first frost and is harvestable at best in late May. My tomatoes and peppers really don’t start producing until late June or July and I am probably on my last crop of those.  Zucchini from June to September.  Beans are done. Potatoes and onions are a fall harvest.  Gardening will tell you when fresh is available locally.  By the way, buy some fresh green beans, take them home and snap them, then cook them and compare that to opening a can of green beans.  If you raise them, add starting, planting, poling, dealing with pests/weeds and picking to the time.  

Vegetables need a lot of water, not plentiful out west.  When was the last time you got off the interstate and drove out in the rural sections of states, especially in the Midwest?  Count the miles between grocery stores. If Whole Foods is your solution, you have a fanciful view of availability for most Americans, especially those in need of assistance. 

7 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

In last year's NFCCG vs the Bucs, Brady threw 3 INTs and how many RZ chances did Rodgers have where he couldn't get a TD, three at least?  Four?  He had multiple chances in that game and failed to convert. 

Out of curiosity, I checked his stats to see if there's any difference between regular season and post season.  I used a 16 game average for both and these are the results:

Regular season:  357 comp, 549 attempts, 65.0 comp%, 4276 yards, 7.79 YPA, 34.4  TDs, 7.5 INTs

Playoffs:  385 comp, 596 attempts, 64.6 comp%, 4535 yards, 7.60  YPA, 36 TDs, 10.4 INTs

Really not much difference aside from his attempts (+8.5%, but only averages to 3 more attempts per game), yards and INTs (+38.7%) go up and his YPA goes down slightly.  So it seems in the playoffs the GB O coaching staff relies a little more on him than during the regular season with the only stat that changes much is his INTs.  

With the stats he has put up he probably should have won more than 1 SB.  I'm sure there were playoff games where he played well and the D let the team down just like how in last year's NFCCG the D picked the GOAT 3 times and Rodgers failed multiple times in the RZ.  It's more than just talent and performance.  You also need timing and some luck as well.

 

The years they lost to the niners (kaepernick and Jimmy g) i just think the niners had better teams then them. However the year they lost to the giants and the giants won the Sb, that’s an inexcusable loss because they had the better team and were at home.  Rodgers was so-so but their coaching in that game was bad particularly on the defensive side of the ball. Atlanta nfc title game they got smoked because he started off poorly and the defense no showed. I think he’s had some bad luck as well like that Seahawks nfc title game with the botched onside 

6 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

49ers getting some extra insight into the Eagles play book this week. 

 

 

I just posted an article on this, then saw yours and deleted mine. Smart move by the 49'ers. 

**Plot twist- Hey Siri is so brilliant, he knew this was going to happen and instructed Johnson to give the 49'ers false information. He then gets released by the 49'ers, after they get beaten to a pulp, and then lands back on the Eagles practice squad. 🤣

9 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Nick Bosa vs. Jordan Mailata next week. That should be fun to watch.

Yup.  It will be fun getting to see how far Mailata has progressed.

2 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

There is a scenario where we choose to let Goedert walk and sign Ertz to a team-friendly deal.

This let's Ertz play out his career here.  He is still effective and would be a nice compliment to the young WR corps we are building.  Jackson/Stoll could then develop as the heir apparent while still providing the option to run 12 personnel if desired.

I don't have a real opinion on this yet.  But it has some merits.

If Ertz blocked Id have zero problem with re upping him to a friendlier team deal than one would get with goedert but he doesn't block and he's not an elite receiver any more either so I just don't see the value other than whatever value keeping an all-time franchise guy brings.

Will be interesting to see what happens end of year at TE.

 

11 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Who can?  Where are the Whole Foods?   Are there any in Kensington?    Chester?  Camden?

Don't know how true this is, but I heard someone say that Whole Foods prefers their locations where there's a high number of young college grads living.  Some might say they prefer areas that are affluent with plenty of disposable income.  The only 2 in South Jersey are Cherry Hill and Marlton.  So even for me both are more than a 30 minute drive. 

 

12 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

There is a scenario where we choose to let Goedert walk and sign Ertz to a team-friendly deal.

This let's Ertz play out his career here.  He is still effective and would be a nice compliment to the young WR corps we are building.  Jackson/Stoll could then develop as the heir apparent while still providing the option to run 12 personnel if desired.

I don't have a real opinion on this yet.  But it has some merits.

I don’t think this is out of the question at all. If Jonnu and Henry got 12.5 mil per year and Jonnu got $31 mil guaranteed i could see goedert since the market has increase and cap going up (especially in 2023) asks for more guaranteed money and 13-13.5 mil per. That’s a lot of money for a tight end who hasn’t become a top 5 tight end and has had some injury issues.  

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