10 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The goal shouldn’t be let’s just make the playoffs  and boast about it. it should be trying to become a legitimate title contender not a fringe playoff team 

They aren't mutually exclusive.  You can celebrate getting to the playoff this season on your way to becoming a legitimate title contender next season.

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

The Texans signed a running back who looks like this to a contract extension. 

 that isn't Rex Burkhead.

Ray Didinger just looked at his notes from the Chargers/Raiders game.

He’s convinced that lack of balance on offense is the only reason LAC lost. The fact they trailed the whole game and threw it 21 times the final drive of regulation means nothing. Had they ran it more they surely would have won.

1 minute ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

They aren't mutually exclusive.  You can celebrate getting to the playoff this season on your way to becoming a legitimate title contender next season.

I’d argue they’re correlated.

8 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Pinkston made a business decision, dude weighed 165 lbs dripping wet and had Sean Taylor bout to break him in half on a medicine ball, JJAW just flat out dropped a pass that hit him right in the chest.

Not to mention I probably would have called OPI in JJAW and he still dropped it 

JJAW is just straight up trash, sure it's fun to poke fun at pinkston but at least pinkston had some production in his short career.

fair enough. Hard to find a comp for JJAW

1 minute ago, SB52 said:

I’d argue they’re correlated.

They are.  However, some on here have argued that we should avoid the playoffs at all costs to build the roster and then explode onto the scene as title contenders.

9 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

The Texans signed a running back who looks like this to a contract extension. 

Don't be agist!   He looks good for being 68.

2 minutes ago, Next_Up said:

fair enough. Hard to find a comp for JJAW

Billy McMullen comes to mind.

Making the playoffs this season was definitely impressive, the NFC East being terrible aside. Per the expectations it was impressive.

However, I don't think this is the first step into becoming something special until they get a top level QB.

5 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

 that isn't Rex Burkhead.

The pic is only slightly doctored. 

5 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

They aren't mutually exclusive.  You can celebrate getting to the playoff this season on your way to becoming a legitimate title contender next season.

That is also true, but in so celebrating, it shouldn't be settling for a playoff birth as if that in itself is an accomplishment.   It is a stepping stone to the ultimate goal, but it is not the goal.

14 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

They aren't mutually exclusive.  You can celebrate getting to the playoff this season on your way to becoming a legitimate title contender next season.

That would be fine except I don’t think in 2018 and 2019 they were building towards a legitimate contender. they were coming down and that’s pretty fast considering they were only a legit contender for 1 season. 2018 they weren’t a legitimate contender nor played like it for most of that season. They went from a Super Bowl contending team to a team that need cousins to choke last week of the season just to get into the playoffs and a double doink to win a game against Mitchell Trubisky. Frankly the 2019 team only made it because the division was so awful and they had the fortune scheduling that gave them the Giants twice, Washington, and the dolphins the last month of the season. Those two playoff teams they weren’t really building towards a legitimate title contender. They were coming down from the one legitimate year they built a title contender and closer to the 8.5 wins per season average prior and now after that super bowl. 

11 minutes ago, greend said:

They signed me? Man I got a good agent

Not really.  You didn't know about the signing, and he kept all your $$$

8 minutes ago, SB52 said:

Ray Didinger just looked at his notes from the Chargers/Raiders game.

He’s convinced that lack of balance on offense is the only reason LAC lost. The fact they trailed the whole game and threw it 21 times the final drive of regulation means nothing. Had they ran it more they surely would have won.

I’d argue they’re correlated.

They're much more likely to win if their receivers didn't drop every other pass.

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Making the playoffs this season was definitely impressive, the NFC East being terrible aside. Per the expectations it was impressive.

However, I don't think this is the first step into becoming something special until they get a top level QB.

I'll agree with you that this Sunday's game (should the Eagles lose as expected) will be analyzed and used as a blueprint for where the roster is deficient heading into free agency and the draft.

The M.O. for the Eagles losses so far has been that a better than average QB will carve up the Eagles defense to the tune of 80% passing accuracy and no turnovers.  If that happens again this Sunday the front office should be duly motivated to draft defense, defense, defense.  If, however, the Eagles lose a 17-10 or 20-14 type of game, the defense shows pretty well and the offense can't move the ball or score, then I could see a possibility where Howie/Nick is inclined to make a change at QB

My suspicion is the defense will look overmatched, though.  Part of that might be a Gannon issue, but the bigger problem is a lack of talent.

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

That would be fine except I don’t think in 2018 and 2019 they were building towards a legitimate contender. they were coming down and that’s pretty fast considering they were only a legit contender for 1 season. 2018 they weren’t a legitimate contender nor played like it for most of that season. They went from a Super Bowl contending team to a team that need cousins to choke last week of the season just to get into the playoffs and a double doink to win a game against Mitchell Trubisky. Frankly the 2019 team only made it because the division was so awful and they had the fortune scheduling that gave them the Giants twice, Washington, and the dolphins the last month of the season. Those two playoff teams they weren’t really building towards a legitimate title contender. They were coming down from the one legitimate year they built a title contender. 

That's more because 2017 was like a perfect storm rather than being a well built team from the bottom up. All of the FA moves that year collectively hit with Corey Clements emergence as a rookie being a big contributor as well. To me it makes sense that it dropped off a cliff. It wasn't very sustainable, especially with Wentz starting to regress.

Ray Didinger thinks every loss comes down to not running the ball enough. You could have Mahomes and lose a 51-48 shootout where you throw the ball at will and Ray Didinger will be like "you should've ran more to keep the other QB off the field"

I hate this prediction, but fear that this is how it will go.

 

@LeanMeanGM

Eagles - 27
Bucs - 41

 

Bonus prediction:  The Bucs don't punt in the first half.

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I'll agree with you that this Sunday's game (should the Eagles lose as expected) will be analyzed and used as a blueprint for where the roster is deficient heading into free agency and the draft.

The M.O. for the Eagles losses so far has been that a better than average QB will carve up the Eagles defense to the tune of 80% passing accuracy and no turnovers.  If that happens again this Sunday the front office should be duly motivated to draft defense, defense, defense.  If, however, the Eagles lose a 17-10 or 20-14 type of game, the defense shows pretty well and the offense can't move the ball or score, then I could see a possibility where Howie/Nick is inclined to make a change at QB

My suspicion is the defense will look overmatched, though.  Part of that might be a Gannon issue, but the bigger problem is a lack of talent.

I think the defense isn't as bad talent-wise as they looked this season. It's not a defense loaded with elite talent or anything, but outside of LB and maybe safety, the Eagles don't have any areas where they have terrible players starting. The DL is solid across the board. CB is very strong. I think coaching has been the bigger issue than the talent.

On the offense, I think the coaching has been fine, the issue with the passing game has almost exclusively been the QB.

Basically, I think QB is a bigger problem than the defense, because I don't think any coach in the NFL can make Hurts into a great passer, I just don't think that's his game. But if the Eagles were to say land a Zimmer, Fangio, Flores as DC, I think the defense would be markedly better even without adding much talent.

18 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Don't be agist!   He looks good for being 68.

That does look a bit like me........................poor guy

21 minutes ago, bitbased said:

That's more because 2017 was like a perfect storm rather than being a well built team from the bottom up. All of the FA moves that year collectively hit with Corey Clements emergence as a rookie being a big contributor as well. To me it makes sense that it dropped off a cliff. It wasn't very sustainable, especially with Wentz starting to regress.

Oh I don’t disagree. 2017 was the ultimate lightning in a bottle offseason. Where everything they touched that off-season worked out to perfection (draft that year worked out for that singlular year but after that deteriorated) . And they had a lot of players have career years that one particular which helped cover up the missed picks from 2014 and 2015 drafts. It was never going to be sustainable so the fact when they made the playoffs at 9-7 in 2019 cause of a crap division wasn’t building towards a legit contender. And a fool‘s Gold run at the end of that year hid the fact that they really needed to do a rebuild then. 

15 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

That would be fine except I don’t think in 2018 and 2019 they were building towards a legitimate contender. they were coming down and that’s pretty fast considering they were only a legit contender for 1 season. 2018 they weren’t a legitimate contender nor played like it for most of that season. They went from a Super Bowl contending team to a team that need cousins to choke last week of the season just to get into the playoffs and a double doink to win a game against Mitchell Trubisky. Frankly the 2019 team only made it because the division was so awful and they had the fortune scheduling that gave them the Giants twice, Washington, and the dolphins the last month of the season. Those two playoff teams they weren’t really building towards a legitimate title contender. They were coming down from the one legitimate year they built a title contender and closer to the 8.5 wins per season average prior and now after that super bowl. 

In 2018 and 2019, they were strategically attempting to keep the window open and continue to contend.  But they failed miserably.

The failed 2017 draft started to materialize.  We couldn't field a competent secondary.  Injuries to an aging WR group impacted QB play and exposed Agholor.  Injuries in general brought the team down quickly.  Then the 2019 draft and irresponsible contract extensions put the final nails in the coffin.

Making the playoffs in 2018 and 2019 wasn't a step towards contention.  It was a consolation prize for a deteriorating team.

This year is a different situation.

7 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Ray Didinger thinks every loss comes down to not running the ball enough. You could have Mahomes and lose a 51-48 shootout where you throw the ball at will and Ray Didinger will be like "you should've ran more to keep the other QB off the field"

He would be right.

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Who said JJAW was an actual NFL player?

He's going to be converted to an H-back. Don't you remember?

With Spielman and Zimmer gone from Minny, owners must believe the league has some untapped potential, it’s crazy that almost every season 6-8 coaches get fired. 
 At this point it wouldn’t be crazy if someone from the Eagles gets an interview.   Our luck someone would offer Stoutland a HC job and he’d take it as a CEO type coach like Arians. 

Just now, The Blackfish said:

With Spielman and Zimmer gone from Minny, owners must believe the league has some untapped potential, it’s crazy that almost every season 6-8 coaches get fired. 
 At this point it wouldn’t be crazy if someone from the Eagles gets an interview.   Our luck someone would offer Stoutland a HC job and he’d take it as a CEO type coach like Arians. 

That would really suck, I don't see it happening though. Dude should definitely get one of those fake promotions we like to do with a real raise involved to keep him around as long as possible lol