9 minutes ago, The Blackfish said:

 That’s why I can’t listen to his podcast, the Eagles hired Rhodes, drafted McNabb, brought Vick back to the league, and drafted Hurts.   Plus Rodney Peete was with Lurie I believe, and Vince Young was a dream teamer.  
 For a non progressive team, they have had their share plus some in terms of black QB’s since Lurie bought the Eagles.   

He's insufferable.

10 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I would be inclined to give Sirianni a full offseason to see if he can unlock Reagor.

But if they do jettison him, then we'll learn what the coaching staff sees.

Fair enough. I thought after this rookie year he could be a fine player, but I was really disappointed in him this year. Maybe he has a bounce back year & is struggling with confidence/mental issues like Agholor and has a similar career arc as Agholor

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I have zero hopes for him.  BUT... I'm in no rush to jettison him.   I am in a rush to put him on the bench for the playoffs though.  He's not going to magically get better by Sunday.

Just has to pass a physical to be cut without an injury settlement.

Yup, I agree, no reason to cut reagor without giving him benefit of another camp with Siri and hurts and again no reason to play him on Sunday, he adds zero value to the offense, not one DC this year is worried about reagor catching 1 pass for 9 yards and having 1 run for 2 yards.

Give his reps to Watkins and ward whom were both more productive this year 

1 minute ago, Dwide Schrude said:

Reagor isn’t the enticing part of a trade package, it’d be Dillard. Reagor is just a throw in with the background as a former 1st round pick with speed on a rookie deal still. Often there’s trades where lower level players are involved to give depth with possibility of them becoming a complimentary player. There’s not much risk with taking on Reagor, and a team trading for him with Dillard could see a reward. 

Adding Reagor to the trade would likely lower the trade value.  His salary is guaranteed.  So, they'd be on the hook for that salary even if they cut him.   Would get more for Dillard without including Reagor.

Well it does cost you about $4 million to cut Reagor. I don't see them eating that money, though you could trade him and save about $13k. I think it's worth bringing him back next year but he needs serious competition at that spot. If he can't rise to the occasion and win the job at outside WR then he gets demoted, simple as that.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Adding Reagor to the trade would likely lower the trade value.  His salary is guaranteed.  So, they'd be on the hook for that salary even if they cut him.   Would get more for Dillard without including Reagor.

Didn’t realize that, thanks for clearing that up

15 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Finger surgery

JPP approves 

Sony Music paid $500M for the rights to Bruce Springsteen's crap, while Warner Music just purchased David Bowie's "entire body of work" (good music) for only $250M

41 minutes ago, downundermike said:

By hiring him as a coach........................

 

There is no promotion that they could offer him.  Shouldn't you be busy compiling fake stats to post? 

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yes cause they were dominating. Again the eagles squeaked by winning a crappy division in 2019 to make the playoffs. That’s nowhere near the same as reid dominating or ne dominating. The eagles weren’t a good team they benefitted from a bad division. It would be completely 100% different if that 2019 was actually good team and won a bad division. They werent. They were a team desperately needing a rebuild due to bad contracts, bad restructuring and poor drafts 2 out of 3 years and werent anywhere close to being a contender. So your comparison is apples to oranges. 

And i would take the packers last 15 years with rodgers over the eagles. 5 nfc title games, SB and world class QB for 1.5 decades. can make arguments like that too. And the packers managed to win a SB this year their decade is much better. For as bad as the giants have been (and they’ve been bad) and the eagles making the playoffs, they still have the same amount of SB as the eagles since 2010.

no you need to not consistently be at a high of 9 wins for 4 years, can’t beat good teams (0-6 against playoff teams and 2 wins against teams over .500 the last 33 games) and actually have a shot to win something (not just getting a 7th seed) to not be stuck in purgatory. 

I am concerned about them getting stuck in purgatory cause their draft success has been all over the place in the draft and for every great move howie makes he tends to have the next offseason where he reverts back to the opposite. Furthermore I’ve seen this organization at one point in this decade go 5 out of 6 years missing the playoffs and 4 out of 5 making it. So I’ve seen this organization not exactly be rock solid consistency over the decade and have big swings in momentum of where the team heads. 

For all the dominating we did in the early Reid days, how many Super Bowls did that get us? And isn't that what we want? What's the difference between making the playoffs every year as the 7 seed, or getting in as the 1 seed and losing in the championship game every year? Is that really a better outcome? I don't really think so. 

Green Bay, since 2010 when they won the Super Bowl (if 4 years is an eternity, how long is 12 years?); have a 128-63-2 record. They are 11-8 in the playoffs.

Eagles over the same frame have 100-92-1. We are 4-4 in the playoffs. 

That works out to roughly 2 wins more per year than us over the 12 years. The playoff edge is significant, basically 1 more playoff game than us per year. So is Green Bay stuck in purgatory? Cause at the end of the day, the end results aren't significantly different.

It seems to me a case of trying to keep up with the Joneses. You see that neighbor who looks like a super dad (Rodgers), but the rest of his family is kinda crappy. Your own dad isn't the greatest, so you think their way must be better. But you don't notice at the other end of the street, all the houses with completely absent fathers and crackheads (Lions, Jags, etc). 

I'll always be happy we're in the playoffs, I don't care how we get in there. We can worry in the offseason about roster building and everything else, but why put a damper on this by worrying about being stuck in purgatory? We've spent so long on these boards being angry and cynical....I just feel like now's the time to enjoy the season, it's been fun, and worry about Howie and his issues later. 

6 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Sony Music paid $500M for the rights to Bruce Springsteen's crap, while Warner Music just purchased David Bowie's "entire body of work" (good music) for only $250M

The terms of the copyrights for Springsteen are much longer than Bowie's.  

12 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

There is no promotion that they could offer him.  Shouldn't you be busy compiling fake stats to post? 

I thought that changed recently.  Also, I admitted and apologized for my mistake.  You should try it sometime.

And you can make a lateral move if the team that employs you allows it.

 

 

3 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Ray Didinger thinks every loss comes down to not running the ball enough. You could have Mahomes and lose a 51-48 shootout where you throw the ball at will and Ray Didinger will be like "you should've ran more to keep the other QB off the field"

He spends more time talking about his notes than anything of actual insight.  And whatever platform that allows him to blabber on about it just goes nuts over his "notes” like they are teenage girls at a Bieber concert.

1 hour ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

He's the 49ers defensive coordinator, how could they add him to this staff 

Hence, I wish there was a way.

18 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Sony Music paid $500M for the rights to Bruce Springsteen's crap, while Warner Music just purchased David Bowie's "entire body of work" (good music) for only $250M

To be fair they are different deals. Sony bought the entire back catalog including the recordings where Warner is just a publishing deal.

I still can’t believe Siri was the best new coach hire in the end 😂😂😂😂

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Is it wrong to say that I prefer Sunday at 1PM, or even 4:30 to the primetime games? 

I have that preference too. And I’m on the West Coast so I don’t even have to stay up late at night to see the primetime games to their conclusion.

7 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

I still can’t believe Siri was the best new coach hire in the end 😂😂😂😂

Lurie is great at picking coaches

https://www.forbes.com/sites/evansidery/2021/12/31/indianapolis-colts-are-huge-winners-from-carson-wentz-trade/

27 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

For all the dominating we did in the early Reid days, how many Super Bowls did that get us? And isn't that what we want? What's the difference between making the playoffs every year as the 7 seed, or getting in as the 1 seed and losing in the championship game every year? Is that really a better outcome? I don't really think so. 

Green Bay, since 2010 when they won the Super Bowl (if 4 years is an eternity, how long is 12 years?); have a 128-63-2 record. They are 11-8 in the playoffs.

Eagles over the same frame have 100-92-1. We are 4-4 in the playoffs. 

That works out to roughly 2 wins more per year than us over the 12 years. The playoff edge is significant, basically 1 more playoff game than us per year. So is Green Bay stuck in purgatory? Cause at the end of the day, the end results aren't significantly different.

It seems to me a case of trying to keep up with the Joneses. You see that neighbor who looks like a super dad (Rodgers), but the rest of his family is kinda crappy. Your own dad isn't the greatest, so you think their way must be better. But you don't notice at the other end of the street, all the houses with completely absent fathers and crackheads (Lions, Jags, etc). 

I'll always be happy we're in the playoffs, I don't care how we get in there. We can worry in the offseason about roster building and everything else, but why put a damper on this by worrying about being stuck in purgatory? We've spent so long on these boards being angry and cynical....I just feel like now's the time to enjoy the season, it's been fun, and worry about Howie and his issues later. 

the eagles made it to 4 nfc title games and SB in 5 years with a roster they built to last. The eagles in 11 years have made 1 SB and 1 nfc title game. That’s a huge difference in terms of sustainable excellence. One looks vastly more like an outlier based off the other 10 seasons surrounding that one particular year. fortunately the eagles won one in this past run whereas reid didn’t. 

Add on the eagles have won 10 or more games 3 times in past 11 years and only 12 or more once in 11 years. eagles in Reid’s first 6 years here had 5 10+ win seasons and 3 12+ win seasons. One year in a 11 year stretch is more of an outlier than the norm.  2017 is the outlier to the rest of the 10 season surrounding it 

They are entirely different cause the eagles  2017 makes up a chunk of their success this decade. They have 1 playoff victory in 9 other seasons surround it. 2017 is great except for the fact the still 9 other seasons that surround it and the only playoff victory they have outside of 2017 is a double doink win. The packers have far away been more consistently in the nfc for the past decade then the eagles. There’s a reason why the packers have 19 playoff games and won 11 of them.  Unfortunately for them didn’t win the ultimate prize but they been to 4 nfc title games in the last 8 years. Meaning they’ve had a legitimate shot at playing in 4 SBs which isn’t easy to do. That’s like every other year. And if they do it again this year that’s more than every other year over the last 9. And if they win a SB this year that is an incredible run.

They only played 16 games. So 128 to 100 over 12 years doesn’t look that much of a difference. So 2 more wins every year for 12 years is becomes somewhat significant.  Based off your numbers, the Packers were on average winning 10.7 games a season over a 12 year stretch. Meanwhile the eagles 8.33. imo that’s big difference to be on the verge of 11 wins on average as compared to just above 8. A double digit win average is pretty impressive along with 4 nfc title games and 11 playoff victories. I love 2017 but 2017 is really the season that covers up for a lot so-so football surrounding it  

the other parts we can agree to disagree cause i think it’s personal feelings about purgatory and where the eagles are and worrying about he future  

 

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yes cause they were dominating. Again the eagles squeaked by winning a crappy division in 2019 to make the playoffs. That’s nowhere near the same as reid dominating or ne dominating. The eagles weren’t a good team they benefitted from a bad division. It would be completely 100% different if that 2019 was actually good team and won a bad division. They werent. They were a team desperately needing a rebuild due to bad contracts, bad restructuring and poor drafts 2 out of 3 years and werent anywhere close to being a contender. So your comparison is apples to oranges. 

And i would take the packers last 15 years with rodgers over the eagles. 5 nfc title games, SB and world class QB for 1.5 decades. can make arguments like that too. And the packers managed to win a SB this year their decade is much better. For as bad as the giants have been (and they’ve been bad) and the eagles making the playoffs, they still have the same amount of SB as the eagles since 2010.

no you need to not consistently be at a high of 9 wins for 4 years, can’t beat good teams (0-6 against playoff teams and 2 wins against teams over .500 the last 33 games) and actually have a shot to win something (not just getting a 7th seed) to not be stuck in purgatory. 

I am concerned about them getting stuck in purgatory cause their draft success has been all over the place in the draft and for every great move howie makes he tends to have the next offseason where he reverts back to the opposite. Furthermore I’ve seen this organization at one point in this decade go 5 out of 6 years missing the playoffs and 4 out of 5 making it. So I’ve seen this organization not exactly be rock solid consistency over the decade and have big swings in momentum of where the team heads. 

 

30 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

For all the dominating we did in the early Reid days, how many Super Bowls did that get us? And isn't that what we want? What's the difference between making the playoffs every year as the 7 seed, or getting in as the 1 seed and losing in the championship game every year? Is that really a better outcome? I don't really think so. 

Green Bay, since 2010 when they won the Super Bowl (if 4 years is an eternity, how long is 12 years?); have a 128-63-2 record. They are 11-8 in the playoffs.

Eagles over the same frame have 100-92-1. We are 4-4 in the playoffs. 

That works out to roughly 2 wins more per year than us over the 12 years. The playoff edge is significant, basically 1 more playoff game than us per year. So is Green Bay stuck in purgatory? Cause at the end of the day, the end results aren't significantly different.

It seems to me a case of trying to keep up with the Joneses. You see that neighbor who looks like a super dad (Rodgers), but the rest of his family is kinda crappy. Your own dad isn't the greatest, so you think their way must be better. But you don't notice at the other end of the street, all the houses with completely absent fathers and crackheads (Lions, Jags, etc). 

I'll always be happy we're in the playoffs, I don't care how we get in there. We can worry in the offseason about roster building and everything else, but why put a damper on this by worrying about being stuck in purgatory? We've spent so long on these boards being angry and cynical....I just feel like now's the time to enjoy the season, it's been fun, and worry about Howie and his issues later. 

Rank	Team	2020	2019	2018	2017	2016	2015	2014	2013	2012	2011	Total
1	New England Patriots	7	12	11	13	14	12	12	12	12	13	118
2	Green Bay Packers	13	13	6	7	10	10	12	8	11	15	105
2	Seattle Seahawks	12	11	10	9	10	10	12	13	11	7	105
4	Pittsburgh Steelers	12	8	9	13	11	10	11	8	8	12	102
5	New Orleans Saints	12	13	13	11	7	7	7	11	7	13	101
6	Kansas City Chiefs	14	12	12	10	12	11	9	11	2	7	100
7	Baltimore Ravens	11	14	10	9	8	5	10	8	10	12	97
8	Denver Broncos	5	7	6	5	9	12	12	13	13	8	90
9	Dallas Cowboys	6	8	10	9	13	4	12	8	8	8	86
10	Indianapolis Colts	11	7	10	4	8	8	11	11	11	2	83
11	Minnesota Vikings	7	10	8	13	8	11	7	5	10	3	82
12	Carolina Panthers	5	5	7	11	6	15	7	12	7	6	81
12	Philadelphia Eagles	4	9	9	13	7	7	10	10	4	8	81
14	Atlanta Falcons	4	7	7	10	11	8	6	4	13	10	80
14	Buffalo Bills	13	10	6	9	7	8	9	6	6	6	80
14	Houston Texans	4	10	11	4	9	9	9	2	12	10	80
14	San Francisco 49ers	6	13	4	6	2	5	8	12	11	13	80
18	Arizona Cardinals	8	5	3	8	7	13	11	10	5	8	78
19	Cincinnati Bengals	4	2	6	7	6	12	10	11	10	9	77
20	Los Angeles Rams	10	9	13	11	4	7	6	7	7	2	76
21	Los Angeles Chargers	7	5	12	9	5	4	9	9	7	8	75
22	Tennessee Titans	11	9	9	9	9	3	2	7	6	9	74
23	Chicago Bears	8	8	12	5	3	6	5	8	10	8	73
23	Miami Dolphins	10	5	7	6	10	6	8	8	7	6	73
25	Detroit Lions	5	3	6	9	9	7	11	7	4	10	71
26	New York Giants	6	4	5	3	11	6	6	7	9	9	66
27	Las Vegas Raiders	8	7	4	6	12	7	3	4	4	8	63
27	Washington Football Team	7	3	7	7	8	9	4	3	10	5	63
29	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	11	7	5	5	9	6	2	4	7	4	60
30	New York Jets	2	7	4	5	5	10	4	8	6	8	59
31	Cleveland Browns	11	6	7	0	1	3	7	4	5	4	48
32	Jacksonville Jaguars	1	6	5	10	3	5	3	4	2	5	44

31 minutes ago, downundermike said:

I thought that changed recently.  Also, I admitted and apologized for my mistake.  You should try it sometime.

And you can make a lateral move if the team that employs you allows it.

 

 

Lol Chargers fans hate Steichen

15 hours ago, D-Shiznit said:

Could have just stayed at #11 and drafted Rashawn Slater to fill their biggest need. Idiots.

They also could have passed on Daniel Jones and waited on a QB til the following year and taken Justin Herbert. Talk about a miss 

1 minute ago, Dwide Schrude said:

If Dillard is traded this off-season, I think they need to package him with Reagor. It’s time to move on from Reagor, don’t keep him another year like JJAW 

I don't know what packaging Reagor with Dillard gets.  I think they could trade Reagor for a player that's like him.  The Panthers might trade Yetur Gross Matos for Reagor.  I would think they would be more interested in Dillard.  So maybe Gross-Matos and a day 2 pick for Reagor and Dillard.  They did trade a bunch of picks for Darnold.  

9 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/evansidery/2021/12/31/indianapolis-colts-are-huge-winners-from-carson-wentz-trade/

Whoops, lmao