13 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Looks like it’s not a very good draft  , have to revisit in a couple years , but looks short on talent 

Better not tell afan that.  It is the best draft in the history of football because his hero has three 1sts.

1 hour ago, The Blackfish said:

 Roquan Smith and Eric Kendrick’s have done pretty well for midgets.  The game isn’t played in the box as much anymore, lots of teams use the Nickel as their base defense. Dean is already better than any LB’er on the Eagles in coverage, and would be their best blitzing LB’er if Gannon actually did that. 
 I prefer Lloyd for the Eagles, he’s obviously bigger, better against the run, just as good as Dean sideline to sideline and he would be less likely to let TE’s or big RB’s get into the Eagles DB’s, and Maddox tries to tackle a big F’er and gets injured. 
 If the Dolphins didn’t screw the Eagles by winning a bunch of games, we could of gotten  Kyle Hamilton and Howie could keep his cheap TJ Edwards and the cripple Taylor.  He would immediately become the leader on defense like Jenkins was. 

 

Riquan Smith is 6'1", Kendricks is 6' but weighs about 235

Dean is I'm guessing 5'10" at around 215-220 that's a short thick safety.

I think a good comparison would be jabril peppers who is 5'11" 215.

I like peppers but he's a tweener, not big enough to be a LB not fast quick enough to be a deep safety, which is fine but limits what one can do with him, I could see dean taking a similar path, which is fine but not something I'd spend a 1st round pick on.

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Bucs 30

Reagor scores a TD 

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Boston Scott scores 2 TDs, Bucs miss a FG. 

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Bit concerned about RG against Tampa’s DTs. But Tampa probably is concerned about the Eagles DTs.  Tampa’s secondary is no better than the Eagles but their LBs are, against the pass.  Tampa hurting at WR.  Not the Tampa that won the Super Bowl last year because of injuries. 
 

Eagles 27 Tampa 24

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30 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Looks like it’s not a very good draft  , have to revisit in a couple years , but looks short on talent 

Who cares about the top ten (which is how most pundits rate drafts), Eagles aren't picking there. Bad year to have high picks, you'll have to pay a high salary for a guy that might go lower other years (Giants and Jets of course).

From the Eagles perspective, with a lot of middle round picks, depth is more important than quality at the top.

Most people in here were raving about Jeramiah Owusu-Koramoah last draft. Hes 221lbs, and only 33'' arms. No one really cared. Everyone wanted him. Why are we hating on Dean?

Lots of people wanted Davis-Gaither as well. 224 lbs, 31'' arms. Why are we hating on Dean?

Everyone would have loved Patrick Queen in round 1. 229lbs. Only 31 5/8'' arms. Why are we hating on Dean?

 

Everyone would have loved to have Devin Bush. Hes under 6'0'' with only 32'' arms. Why are we hating on Dean?

Deone Bucannon converted to LB and revolutionized NFL defenses with a whole new LB/S position. He fell of a cliff but was very good for a few years. He was 211lbs at the combine. Why are we hating on Dean?

 

52 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

Why would we trade Dillard for a 3rd? He’s been good when he’s in there. He just isn’t Mailata. 

The issue is he has 1 year left on his contract. You aren’t going to exercise his 5th year option cause the new rules make it so it’s guaranteed the moment you exercise it. That’s way too much money for a guy who’s never started a full season nor shown he can stay healthy for a full season as a starter. So you have 2 options: 1. Keep him for a year as the backup LT and at the end of the 2022 season he’s going to walk in free agency. Maybe you get a 3rd round comp pick but i doubt they get that. or 2. Deal him at this point and get value for him now. Trust stoutland to work with a mid round tackle to develop. 

Losing one of those front office people for 2 3rds, and trading Dillard for another would be amazing.

We can build back our defense with our first round picks. The 3rd round stockpile would be a great place to find some solid offensive value on luxuries like a TE, a RB, another WR. And youd still have a pick there to add OL depth. Or you can turn one or 2 of those 3rds in to 2nds next year. Which would help a lot in any potential QB trade I imagine.

5 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

That’s Howie speaking.  And by the looks of his top round pick history, I can understand your delusional take.  For the Eagles, this draft is all about those 3 firsts.  Not a 5th round nickel corner or a 7th round rugby player.  Stop. 
 

He changes his stance daily.  

As Jalen Hurts makes history on Sunday becoming the youngest QB to lead this franchise to the playoffs, let's take a look at how some of the other homegrown Eagles QBs have done in their first playoff game:

 

Cunningham 27/54, 50%, 407 passing yards, 7.5 YPA, 0 TD, 3 INT, 52.0 QB rating, 12 rushing yards & 0 TD.

McNabb 24/33, 72.7%, 161 passing yards, 4.9 YPA, 2 TDs, 1 INT, 90.6 QB rating, 32 rushing yards & 1 TD.  

Foles 23/33, 69.7%, 195 passing yards, 5.9 YPA, 2 TD, 0 INT, 105.0 QB rating, 3 rushing yards & 0 TD.

Wentz 1/4, 25%, 3 passing yards, 0.75 YPA, 0 TD, 0 INT, 39.6 QB rating, 0 rushing yards & 0 TD.

 

For Hurts I'm thinking it's reasonable to hope for something like 16/26, 61.5%, 221 passing yards, 8.5 YPA, 2 TDs, 1 INT, 98.4 QB rating, 63 yards rushing & 1 rushing TD.  

28 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Most people in here were raving about Jeramiah Owusu-Koramoah last draft. Hes 221lbs, and only 33'' arms. No one really cared. Everyone wanted him. Why are we hating on Dean?

I’m not hating on Dean. I think I made my reasons pretty clear. And Owusu is 3-4 inches taller, which is why I have a problem. You may well be right about Dean but any lb playing behind that DL is going to look good if he’s not dead.

8 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

For Hurts I'm thinking it's reasonable to hope for something like 16/26, 61.5%, 221 passing yards, 8.5 YPA, 2 TDs, 1 INT, 98.4 QB rating, 63 yards rushing & 1 rushing TD.  

So with that stat line you also expect him to be the youngest Eagles QB to lose a playoff game.

8 minutes ago, justrelax said:

I’m not hating on Dean. I think I made my reasons pretty clear. And Owusu is 3-4 inches taller, which is why I have a problem. You may well be right about Dean but any lb playing behind that DL is going to look good if he’s not dead.

I dont know about dean yet. But in today's NFL Im not gonna doubt a LB over size until its proven we have gone too small at the position.

Seems like Shazier was about the first smaller LB who set the trend for the other guys like that to come in to the league and have success. And a lot of people loved him, but there was a little bit of question out there about his size. He stayed in that elite category because of his speed.

He was in the 230s at the combine! That was considered small. Since then, theyve continued to get smaller. To where we have had numerous seriously hyped LBs enter the draft in the 220lbs range. 

The trend has been smaller, an+d faster. Im sure at some point, the pendulum will begin to swing back to bigger. Maybe a guy like Dean will be the first to speedbump these smaller LBs feel where teams start to say maybe we need to start looking bigger at the position.

But... theres probably nothing to indicate that when you watch Dean play. I dont think he gives you any reason to doubt him based on performance. And I dont think recent history gives you any reason to doubt him based on size. That is the modern day NFL LB. 

I did used to doubt some of those guys because I wouldnt see them stack and shed anyone. They would all run around blocks and that was always a no no. But these guys have gotten so fast, they are able to continue doing that against other NFL athletes, without running themselves out of the play. They can get around a blocker and still get to the ball carrier. 

6 minutes ago, downundermike said:

So with that stat line you also expect him to be the youngest Eagles QB to lose a playoff game.

 

Yeah they might lose.  But they could absolutely win as well if the running game is rolling as well. Fact is though you can't look at that hypothetical stat line and look at the comparison of the other first playoff game performances by Eagles QBs and say that is a bad game in comparison.  

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

You’re using the word Fact when talking about someone else’s opinion about a hypothetical stat line.  
 

Man.  You’re something. 

Was guaranteeing a playoff win 3 weeks ago, and now doing damage control before the loss.

Are the front office signing comp picks tradeable?

 

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1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Lots of people wanted Davis-Gaither as well. 224 lbs, 31'' arms. Why are we hating on Dean?

Davis-Gaither was a fourth-round pick. 

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Everyone would have loved Patrick Queen in round 1. 229lbs. Only 31 5/8'' arms. Why are we hating on Dean?

 

Hasn’t been good in the pros. 

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Everyone would have loved to have Devin Bush. Hes under 6'0'' with only 32'' arms. Why are we hating on Dean?

He has been a disappointment. 

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Deone Bucannon converted to LB and revolutionized NFL defenses with a whole new LB/S position. He fell of a cliff but was very good for a few years. He was 211lbs at the combine. Why are we hating on Dean?

Did being undersized help push him off the cliff?

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I have no dog in the fight, but the examples you shared don’t help the argument.