1 minute ago, schuy7 said:

With the exception of adding a QB, what ONE move do you think would improve this team most for 2022? Can be player or coach.

Elite edge rusher.

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Just now, eagle45 said:

The games that should have been were good games.  The games that never should have been were not.

Bills/Pats should have been also being rivals and the low temps. I didn't think either team would have the kind of success Buffalo had throwing the ball. I expected a lot of running, and a much lower tighter score.

1 minute ago, schuy7 said:

With the exception of adding a QB, what ONE move do you think would improve this team most for 2022? Can be player or coach.

Play making LB, or a stud D-Lineman.

2 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

With the exception of adding a QB, what ONE move do you think would improve this team most for 2022? Can be player or coach.

Aidan Hutchinson 

1 minute ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Would you grade Barnett as neutral?  Not a reach.  Mildly productive, but inconsistent career.  Kind of performing a round below where he was selected.

I'd give Barnett either a D+ or a C-.  They've gotten some mileage out of him, but always with a caveat that he's going to do as much negative, if not more, than he will positive.  The penalties make him far more frustrating than his lack of production.

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I had the 49ers winning that game easily.   They made it harder than it should have been due to settling for FGs rather than TDs, and stupid decisions down the stretch.

I can't help but always think an officiating call is going to work in Dallas' favor. At least for one game.

Just now, EagleJoe8 said:

I can't help but always think an officiating call is going to work in Dallas' favor. At least for one game.

You'll need to wait eight months.  

Just now, EagleJoe8 said:

I can't help but always think an officiating call is going to work in Dallas' favor. At least for one game.

Yeah, well the Dallas faithful believe they were screwed by the officials... .  They just have no clue.

 

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I had the 49ers winning that game easily.   They made it harder than it should have been due to settling for FGs rather than TDs, and stupid decisions down the stretch.

Yeah i thought settling for FGs in the first half of the game kept the cowboys in it. They grossly outplayed Dallas the first half of that game and were only up 9 to show for it. 

was watching with a Niners fan surrounded by Cowboys fans and I told him before the game Jimmy Garoppolo usually pretty good for 3.5 quarters of a game. Then there’s this blip of a drive or two  where he does something completely stupid. It is exactly what happened. That game had no business being that close except for a bad interception and the bad decisions by Shanahan. Thank god kittle’s fumble got overturned by hitting the ground before he caught it. 

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Yeah, well the Dallas faithful believe they were screwed by the officials... .  They just have no clue.

 

A fairly officiated game is a crisis for them.

5 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

With the exception of adding a QB, what ONE move do you think would improve this team most for 2022? Can be player or coach.

Stud DE followed by playmaking safety

Just now, Connecticut Eagle said:

Would you grade Barnett as neutral?  Not a reach.  Mildly productive, but inconsistent career.  Kind of performing a round below where he was selected.

Barnett is interesting because he has sort of regressed.  He was a horrible round 1 value because he was completely, utterly, unexplosive.  His chances of being a disruptive, dangerous edge rusher were 0 from day 1.  And the coaches knew it and even discussed how they had to change his technique to compensate for a lack of explosion.  Why the hell do you settle for that at 13? 

Regardless…his relentless motor and excellent technique have allowed him to generate effort pressures/sacks over time and to hold up against the run.  As a multi-year starter, that’s not bad.  That’s probably a neutral, as you said.  He has now developed a league-wide reputation for major penalties and is a true liability at this point.  Refs probably even look for it now…but he clearly acts like an idiot on the field and deserves the reputation.  For a guy who knows his own couch mouthed off at him for it in front of the cameras on national TV, he still constantly chips and pushes people around after the whistle.  At this moment in time, he’s unquestionably a liability.

Just now, Connecticut Eagle said:

A fairly officiated game is a crisis for them.

exactly.

Thoughts on today's game...

-- Hurts was an abject disaster. Bowles begged him to make intermediate throws on time and Hurts just couldn't do it. Can't help but think a better passer could have gone up and down the field today with Smith, Goedert, and Quez.

-- Sirianni deserves a ton of blame today too, but it feels way more salvageable with Sirianni than Hurts. Seems like Sirianni went overboard trying to stick with the run game and didn't gameplan to feature Smith. Big mistake.

-- Reagor is hopeless. I'm at the point with Reagor that I was with Wentz; I don't care if he ever figures it out, just get him the hell off my team.

-- Howie nailed the 2021 draft. Smith, Dickerson, and Williams are keepers. Williams continues to flash and his impact is becoming way more consistent.

-- Going into the 2022 season, the Eagles will have a ton of assets. 3 1sts, whatever they can get for Dillard and Cox, some cap space, outside chance of some extra picks if Raiche or Brown get hired as GMs. If the Eagles nail the 2022 draft, look out.

-- I'm not forcing anything at QB, but I can't go into 2022 with Hurts as the unquestioned starter. No easy solution there.

2 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

A fairly officiated game is a crisis for them.

I applaud the officials in that game cause they nailed Dallas on something’s they never call against them. The two defensive holding calls you almost never see it unless it’s in the secondary. Nailed them twice and they were legit penalties. 

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Yeah, well the Dallas faithful believe they were screwed by the officials... .  They just have no clue.

 

About the ref spotting the ball, or are they still crying about Dez?

 

🤣🤣

Cut Reagor pls 

5 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

About the ref spotting the ball, or are they still crying about Dez?

 

🤣🤣

Probably both.

I’m curious about the notion of a QB competition involving Hurts for next year.

I realize we are all piling on Hurts right now………so I’ll pile it on heavier.  We all realize that it’s almost objectively impossible for Hurts to win an honest training camp QB competition against ANYONE, right?  

Hurts is a "gamer.”  His biggest strength is chaos…running around out of the pocket, beyond the LOS.  And he’s a physical runner too.  So he’ll will himself to some big plays doing this.  That’s his game and his edge.

Those are things that don’t happen when you wear a red jersey in training camp.  Late throws, wobbly passes, and area code deep balls don’t win QB competitions and certainly don’t show well in practice.  That’s why even the pro-Hurts media acknowledged he had a rough looking camp last year.

Any QB competition would either be a farce or would be over instantly.  He wouldn’t beat Flacco or Nate Sudfeld in an open competition wearing a red jersey and throwing passes in shorts.

Bills/Chiefs will be the most anticipated game of the divisional playoffs, by far.  Would be nice if the good version of both teams show up for the game.

I think Bengals/Titans has some potential.  

The other matchups don’t do much for me.

You know what’s great about the cowboys and their fans complaining about the officials. If they didn’t move the ball to the 23 1/2 yard line and try to gain two yards out of it when Dak slid at the 25 1/2 they likely get the spike and a play at the end zone. So the official had to run an extra 2 yards and then re-spot it at the right spot 

 

My somewhat outlandish yet possibly realistic scenario is that Garoppolo is the starting QB for next season. They’ll use two of the first rounders in this year’s draft and trade another to kick the can into the 2023 draft to have capital and draft a QB if needed. 

Hurts has a great work ethic, made a lot of progress from his rookie year, the fact he struggles against a really fast defense doesn't surprise me, Eagles don't have the big possession WR who is a QB's security blanket, RBs who can pass block or are good targets out of the backfield (Sanders was once, but really regressed). Hurts needs to work with Tom House or some other QB guru on his mechanics this offseason, then study film until his eyes bleed, and hopefully will have mini-camps, invite his WRs for extended work and a full training camp.

Now will that make a difference? Don't know until you try. But he's only 23, that's the age a lot of QBs get drafted. He's never going to have a gun, but he has a good enough arm. Hurt's biggest problem is he hasn't got to the point where the game slows down for him - he may never get there or he may get there in the next year or two. But the Eagles have nothing to lose by giving him another season - even a great deep draft won't put them over the top next year b/c for many players, it takes 2-3 years to really make a difference.

So you shore up the OL, give him another weapon or two (power back who can pick up blitzes would make play action more effective, big WR to give an underneath target) and worst that happens, you have an offense you can plug a veteran QB in and win immediately in 2-3 years. Meanwhile, a defensive upgrade will mean you won't be falling behind by 2 TDs after a quarter and forced out of the running game - which often requires going 3 and out for a series or two before you find cracks in the opposing defense and start breaking off big runs.

Drafting someone like Pickett is a waste, if a QB isn't going to be elite, why waste a 1st rd pick on a glorified backup? We already have two.