1 hour ago, Parrot Head said:

He’s a good backup....at best.

Face it, this team is in QB purgatory because Wentz failed. We just have to hope that they get lucky and get the next one right.

Pretty embarrassing circumstances for a Quarterback Factory. 

4 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Can’t say for certain but it kinda does look like that 

My respect for Sirianni just took a massive step up.   Shame we really have very few other options at DE.

Couldn’t agree with more with Ray Didnger. What exactly is Nick Sirianni’s offense? There’s no rhythm to it there’s no identity. The running backs get 3 carries? That’s unbelievable. It seem like the plan is put Jalen in shotgun and give him one read then run and make a play. 
 

 

This is gonna be a long season…

11 minutes ago, Veejer said:

Well, it was blatantly obvious from the get-go that depth was gonna be an issue with this team, and early injuries are not helping in that area...

I'm about done with Derrick Barnett at this point, another failed 1st rounder...  so, yes, the roster is most definitely an issue, but we knew that going in...

What concerns me more, and I know three game is a small sample size, is the performances of both Hurts & especially the coach...  how do you have your RBs get THREE carries in a game; that's pretty damn near unforgivable... Miles Sanders is a very talented back, and you help a young QB by establishing a ground game and setting up RPO and play-action...  I've been an NFL fan for a long, long time and have learned a few things about the game, but I should NOT be a couple steps ahead of the coach, even a 1st year coach...

Some of us knew that.  Others have forgiven and absolved Howie of any responsibility.  When starting over, many teams start with a fresh slate and can the guy ultimately responsible for the crap fest.   I could have respected that.  Letting Howie continue to drive the ship over the water falls is not what should have happened.   

And when I look at the preseason predictions, there was a good many delusional folks who saw double digit wins and a playoff birth.   The noise got louder after a win against a dreadful team in Atlanta.   This game should put that to rest.

1 hour ago, D-Shiznit said:

DAL got legit lucky in the QB department, first Romo who was undrafted, and now Dak, a mid rounder.

Lets be honest, they didn't get lucky, they scouted properly, Howie looks at the prospect rankings on Walter Football and drafts accordingly, it's why we'll get next years Zach Wilson.

Dallas have just drafted better than us, since 2010 they've drafted 7 pro bowlers in the first round as well as Cee Dee Lamb and Micah Parsons the last two years, we drafted 4 and one of them isn't with us any more, we drafted 2 guys who didn't even see out their rookie contract and are no longer on an NFL roster.

Since 2015, their first round picks have been Zeke, Taco Charlton (the egregious dud), Vander Esch, traded for Amari Cooper, CeeDee and Parsons (current favorite for DROY)

Ours reads Wentz, Barnett, traded (with lots of people who became pro bowlers on the board), Dillard, Reagor and Smith,  Smith shows a lot of promise but beyond that it's 'pretend MVP who worked his ticket to Indy', 'the walking penalty', 'not Nick Chubb', 'guy who can't beat out a rugby player' and 'neither fast nor elusive'.

That's not luck.

6 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Andy started 1999 0-4.

Lost to the Bills 0-26 in the third game.

Would’ve started 1-0 if it wasn’t for sure hands Brian Finneran. Smh.

6 hours ago, schuy7 said:

As an out of town fan, Philadelphia fans are the absolute worst.

I do love it when an out of towner decides to separate themselves from the Philadelphia fanbase.

Most Philadelphia fans are born into it and carry the pain of previous generations as it is passed down.  And generally, that includes all 4 teams.  And Sixers and Flyers frustration runs over to Phillies frustration which runs over into Eagles frustration.  They are not isolated for fans who live here, we don't follow the Eagles in a vacuum.

On the bright side Miles Sanders should be fresh to pass block on Sunday. 

1-6 here we come. And I’m not confident at this point that they can even beat Detroit. Week 1 was a fluke and could possibly be there only win.

5 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

On the bright side Miles Sanders should be fresh to pass block on Sunday. 

Maybe they are saving him for that late season push for that top 5 pick 😂

I think the best game plan for next week is to play the game like it’s the 4th quarter and we have a lead.  Just run the ball to run as much time off the clock as possible and try to lose the game 24-10.

How did we get this schedule when we absolutely sucked last year?

6 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Hurts is doing the same pattern as last year. Good first start in a new offense. Inconsistent second start that had some good with some bad. Bad third start against the Cowboys that has garbage time stats.

Hurts playing like a...backup QB.

Good morning folks.  I’m not nearly as frustrated this morning as I was last night about the team/game.  It was a bad night for the team and it was a bad game.  Is this a playoff team right now?  Not imo.  But does the team still have positives? Yes.  I think there’s still plenty of younger talent on the team and guys like Quez Watkins are quickly securing their future in the NFL.

Nick Sirianni’s tshirt for Chiefs game next week

10 minutes ago, RLC said:

Hurts playing like a...backup QB.

He's been blueprinted by the NFL.   Each week, the good teams will take a little more away from him.

A few things…

* Some positives: Dillard showed something against weak competition. It’s a start. Quez continues to make big plays. Hargrave is incredible. We have a good punter. 

* The game plan was still asinine. If the goal is to find out what we have in Hurts Sirianni needs to put him in a position to succeed. He didn’t last night, even if he schemed open guys. Slow the game down for him and give him mental breaks with the run game. I’m not asking him to hide him on offense. Just acknowledge what kind of QB he is and go from there. 

* Even if you account for say 5 RPOs ending in a pass, that’s still 34 passes to 8 RB runs. Crazy stuff. 

* Ertz just isn’t as good as Goedert. It’s not 2017 or 2018 anymore. Goedert should get the bulk of the snaps.

* It’s too early to spike the ball when it comes to Sirianni. As bad as last night was, it’s his third game and he’s still new at calling plays. 

* Barnett continues to make stupid penalties, but there seems to be no repercussions. Sit his butt down. We can’t bench him for a whole game due to numbers, but he needs to sit for a series after these penalties. 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

A few things…

* Some positives: Dillard showed something against weak competition. It’s a start. Quez continues to make big plays. Hargrave is incredible. We have a good punter. 

* The game plan was still asinine. If the goal is to find out what we have in Hurts Sirianni needs to put him in a position to succeed. He didn’t last night, even if he schemed open guys. Slow the game down for him and give him mental breaks with the run game. I’m not asking him to hide him on offense. Just acknowledge what kind of QB he is and go from there. 

* Even if you account for say 5 RPOs ending in a pass, that’s still 34 passes to 8 RB runs. Crazy stuff. 

* Ertz just isn’t as good as Goedert. It’s not 2017 or 2018 anymore. Goedert should get the bulk of the snaps.

* It’s too early to spike the ball when it comes to Sirianni. As bad as last night was, it’s his third game and he’s still new at calling plays. 

* Barnett continues to make stupid penalties, but there seems to be no repercussions. Sit his butt down. We can’t bench him for a whole game due to numbers, but he needs to sit for a series after these penalties. 

Agreed on the positives.  Dillard fared well, not great.  Quez is making plays, in the limited opportunities we see him.  I'd like to see him in the intermediate range on a cross route.  Hargrave has shut me up about that signing.  It still seemed like a luxury signing, but he is a really good, young(ish) DT.  Last night he played the way Fletcher Cox used to when he would get singled up.  Siposs is a gem so far.

 

As for the Sirianni piece, I am going to give him time.  The line from Hurts has me concerned though.  I don't think Hurts would put out the flush it, don't look at it line unless he'd been given that impression by Sirianni.  This game, especially for a young group of coaches and players, is one where hard lessons can be learned if one is willing to truly evaluate one's own performance.  I would love to see the all-22 of those pass plays.  How many of them were there to be made and how many were just being forced?   The first drive was very good... up until that awful INT Hurts floated out there.  That was an awful awful pass.  It did lead directly to a TD, I guess, so maybe Hurts gets an assist on Cox's TD?  

 

The penalties are out of hand.   Johnson was bad.  He's not the player he was.  Good thing we locked him up again with the contract restructure.  OL is falling like dominoes again.  Brooks is out for a while, Mailata for who knows how long, now Seumalo is out.  Johnson looks limited and Dickerson was seen limping pretty significantly.   Yay!   

7 hours ago, Ace Nova said:

No way.  When did Doug call 3 running plays to RB’s with 39 pass plays after an abysmal game plan with a 90% healthy offense?  Not even close.  

Wonder if Lurie/Howie are having more of a say in this dept. We already know how Jeff feels about the passing game and he's not afraid to voice his opinion about it after a win no less...

42 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I think the best game plan for next week is to play the game like it’s the 4th quarter and we have a lead.  Just run the ball to run as much time off the clock as possible and try to lose the game 24-10.

Thats what we should have done last night

25 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

A few things…

* Some positives: Dillard showed something against weak competition. It’s a start. Quez continues to make big plays. Hargrave is incredible. We have a good punter. 

* The game plan was still asinine. If the goal is to find out what we have in Hurts Sirianni needs to put him in a position to succeed. He didn’t last night, even if he schemed open guys. Slow the game down for him and give him mental breaks with the run game. I’m not asking him to hide him on offense. Just acknowledge what kind of QB he is and go from there. 

* Even if you account for say 5 RPOs ending in a pass, that’s still 34 passes to 8 RB runs. Crazy stuff. 

* Ertz just isn’t as good as Goedert. It’s not 2017 or 2018 anymore. Goedert should get the bulk of the snaps.

* It’s too early to spike the ball when it comes to Sirianni. As bad as last night was, it’s his third game and he’s still new at calling plays. 

* Barnett continues to make stupid penalties, but there seems to be no repercussions. Sit his butt down. We can’t bench him for a whole game due to numbers, but he needs to sit for a series after these penalties. 

Agree with most but how much morr can they simplify it for Hurts? We had zero motion pre snap…

16 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

* The game plan was still asinine. If the goal is to find out what we have in Hurts Sirianni needs to put him in a position to succeed. He didn’t last night, even if he schemed open guys. Slow the game down for him and give him mental breaks with the run game. I’m not asking him to hide him on offense. Just acknowledge what kind of QB he is and go from there. 

Ive been going back and forth in my head on this.  Im hoping its a learning opportunity for Sirianni

I think hes in a weird spot where he knows Hurts cant run his offense, but knows his offense is good and works

So his dilemma, as a first year coach:

--Do whatever he needs to do to make Hurts successful?   Meaning run basically an RPO offense.   Easier said that done when hes getting his first and maybe only shot to be HC and playcaller.  

--Run his own offense and let Hurts sink or swim.  We have to figure that out, right?  Should we gear everything towards Hurts?? Doesnt seem right since the open secret is that he's not the guy long term.

 

Its easy to say, option 1 is best for the team.  But is it, really?

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

Good morning folks.  I’m not nearly as frustrated this morning as I was last night about the team/game.  It was a bad night for the team and it was a bad game.  Is this a playoff team right now?  Not imo.  But does the team still have positives? Yes.  I think there’s still plenty of younger talent on the team and guys like Quez Watkins are quickly securing their future in the NFL.

I woke up and I just feel numb towards this team.  I'm struggling to find the positives and I'm really trying to.  I'm talking about young, positives who are going to make up the core of this team moving forward.   I'm not including Hargrave, there's no way he's here when the team is ready to compete.  Same with Miles Sanders and Dallas Goedert.  I don't think they are going to be back.  Why would Sanders want to be here?

-Watkins is a player

-Smith, based off college production and potential but Ja'Marr Chase is showing out every week (doesn't hurt to have Burrow)  Smith, you need to step up.

-Sweat, in a limited/rotational role

-Mailata, if healthy

-Sippos, hell even he's 28

-Gainwell 

-Milton Williams, if they can find a home for him

Reagor, maybe

 

That's honestly all I can think of.  I know I'm being hard on Dickerson but he's a player that Howie couldn't pass on.  I'd expect him to flash.  He's shown nothing.  Herbig showed more as a UDFA fat slob last year in his first start.  They have nothing in the pipeline on defense.  No corners, no safeties, no LBs, no DE.  Nothing in terms of young 1st/2nd year players who look like they are going to be a big part of this team.  Williams, Jackson, McPhearson and the USC guy might all be rotational players but I don't see any starters, let alone game changers.

I was bullish on the O-line being a strength leading up to the season.  I thought Herbig and Driscoll were borderline starters.  Looks like we're going to see Herbig now.  Would rather have Herbig replace Dickerson to let him get healthy but looks like they are both starting now.  The O-line is in shambles.  Jason Kelce and Lane Johnson have looked bad now 2 weeks in a row.  It's like the ATL game never happened.  Kelce is getting abused and Lane is struggling with speed.  

I just need more from DeVonta Smith.  No, Hurts isn't a good quarterback, but he's had multiple balls hit him in the hands and he's either dropped or the defender has been able to knock the ball away.  You won the Heisman, the team gave an extra pick to Dallas to draft you.  Time to earn it.

Worst of all is Jalen Hurts.  Drafting him at 53 might be the biggest mistake Howie has ever made.  That pick alone changed the course of this team and I won't get in to all of that but he just isn't a good quarterback.  

And the icing on the cake, the architect is Howie and he's not going anywhere.  Won't even get in to Sirianni.  Does he even have an offensive philosophy or gameplan?  This is going to be a long 5 years AT LEAST.  

First time in my life that I can remember shutting off a game before it was completely over and going right to sleep. Well deserved beating we took. Maybe the coach should stop trying to be cute with t-shirts and do some coaching instead.

Before some of you that have a superior attitude get on me about the t-shirts not mattering, everything matters when you are the leader of young men.

If you can keep Hurts in the pocket and take away his scramble we lose. He isn't a pocket passer.