1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Why would you say that?

He seems like a take things as they are kind of guy, not as motivated as others.  I could be wrong, it's just the impression I get of him.  Maybe it's because he's not in the spot light and that's fine.  

1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Now you have 3 favorite teams 

ahem, 4

2 hours ago, Ipiggles said:

Seth Joyner on Hurts... which is exactly what I have been saying since Game 1 of the season. 

 

 

Diggs had a career game last night just staring at Hurts' eyes the entire time, with no threat of a double move and a deep ball shot to force him to play more honestly.

6 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I didn't see this live but read about it.  Not a good thing at all.

 

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Wrong.  Everyone would be talking about how bad NS and Hurts was 

BINGO!!!!

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

He seems like a take things as they are kind of guy, not as motivated as others.  I could be wrong, it's just the impression I get of him.  Maybe it's because he's not in the spot light and that's fine.  

Ok. Weird thing to assume about someone based on apparently nothing. 

22 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I think for the good of the team and what's best for the future they need to sit Dickerson.  If that means playing Opeta, Toth or Driscoll at RG so be it.  He just isn't healthy yet.

Dickerson tore his ACL on December 19.  Dickerson is 6-6 330 lbs. had already torn his ACL once prior to go along with 2 season ending ankle injuries.

McLeod tore his ACL on December 13.  McLeod is 5-10 195 lbs. and had torn an MCL in 2018.  

The fact that McLeod has sat out the first 3 games whereas Dickerson played in 2 already tells me that they have mismanaged Dickerson's workload.  They tore their ACL's within 6 days of each other yet one guy is getting 28 extra days before playing in a game.  That doesn't make sense to me.

excellent point. And one of the two has NFL game experience, they are throwing Dickerson out there early for his injury and with zero preparatory work to get him up to speed with the NFL.

1 minute ago, 315Eagles said:

For some, everything Dallas does from drafting, FA signing, etc is great and so much better than how the Eagles do it.  

Yet it's been, what, 25 years and counting now since they won anything?  

Especially when you consider the lack of draft capital they have had to put into the QB position since Parcells left (Romo - UDFA, Dak - 4th round).

 

Spencer Rattler better start playing like he did last year this Saturday and going forward. 

So, after a night of fitful sleep to try and digest that dreck, I really think we need to re-think how we go about building this team. Assuming Hurts doesn't improve dramatically and prove to be the long term answer (still technically possible), the working theory has been the Eagles potentially have 3 1st round picks (all of which could be in the top half of round 1) that can be used to get the QB of the future. That was my thinking since the offseason, but I'm coming around to a different line of thinking for the following reasons:

- The top college QBs (Rattler, Slovis, Howell) aren't exactly impressing

- The new model in the NFL seems to be the Bucs/Rams model of building the team and getting the QB last

- We seem to be entering a new era of QB empowerment (Brady, Rodgers, Wentz, Stafford) where top guys can force moves

- At least half of 1st round QBs bust, and you get stuck with them and they can ruin a franchise either by leaving you short on talent other places (Bears with Trubisky) or worse you get fooled into giving them a second contract (Goff, Wentz)

So I'm all aboard the plan of copying the Bucs. Let's use those picks on a DE, DT and OL (maybe a CB). We have young skill position weapons that may or may not develop. Roll with Minshew or someone else and let the kids grow up with an eye on the next superstar QB that wants out -- try and make this an attractive destination.

Maybe Russ is fed up with Seattle in 2 years. Allen wants out of Western NY for a larger market. Burrow decides not to waste his life in Cincinnati. Cleveland doesn't commit to Baker. Gruden runs off Carr. 

QB is where you put your most cap dollars. Build the rest and try and get the most certain option at the most expensive position.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

And so it continues... another one bites the dust

 

10 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Why would you say that?

Wild speculation based on his hair. 

3 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

So, after a night of fitful sleep to try and digest that dreck, I really think we need to re-think how we go about building this team. Assuming Hurts doesn't improve dramatically and prove to be the long term answer (still technically possible), the working theory has been the Eagles potentially have 3 1st round picks (all of which could be in the top half of round 1) that can be used to get the QB of the future. That was my thinking since the offseason, but I'm coming around to a different line of thinking for the following reasons:

- The top college QBs (Rattler, Slovis, Howell) aren't exactly impressing

- The new model in the NFL seems to be the Bucs/Rams model of building the team and getting the QB last

- We seem to be entering a new era of QB empowerment (Brady, Rodgers, Wentz, Stafford) where top guys can force moves

- At least half of 1st round QBs bust, and you get stuck with them and they can ruin a franchise either by leaving you short on talent other places (Bears with Trubisky) or worse you get fooled into giving them a second contract (Goff, Wentz)

So I'm all aboard the plan of copying the Bucs. Let's use those picks on a DE, DT and OL (maybe a CB). We have young skill position weapons that may or may not develop. Roll with Minshew or someone else and let the kids grow up with an eye on the next superstar QB that wants out -- try and make this an attractive destination.

Maybe Russ is fed up with Seattle in 2 years. Allen wants out of Western NY for a larger market. Burrow decides not to waste his life in Cincinnati. Cleveland doesn't commit to Baker. Gruden runs off Carr. 

QB is where you put your most cap dollars. Build the rest and try and get the most certain option at the most expensive position.

Yes I agree with this. Build up the rest of the roster, and add the QB last. 

3 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

So, after a night of fitful sleep to try and digest that dreck, I really think we need to re-think how we go about building this team. Assuming Hurts doesn't improve dramatically and prove to be the long term answer (still technically possible), the working theory has been the Eagles potentially have 3 1st round picks (all of which could be in the top half of round 1) that can be used to get the QB of the future. That was my thinking since the offseason, but I'm coming around to a different line of thinking for the following reasons:

- The top college QBs (Rattler, Slovis, Howell) aren't exactly impressing

- The new model in the NFL seems to be the Bucs/Rams model of building the team and getting the QB last

- We seem to be entering a new era of QB empowerment (Brady, Rodgers, Wentz, Stafford) where top guys can force moves

- At least half of 1st round QBs bust, and you get stuck with them and they can ruin a franchise either by leaving you short on talent other places (Bears with Trubisky) or worse you get fooled into giving them a second contract (Goff, Wentz)

So I'm all aboard the plan of copying the Bucs. Let's use those picks on a DE, DT and OL (maybe a CB). We have young skill position weapons that may or may not develop. Roll with Minshew or someone else and let the kids grow up with an eye on the next superstar QB that wants out -- try and make this an attractive destination.

Maybe Russ is fed up with Seattle in 2 years. Allen wants out of Western NY for a larger market. Burrow decides not to waste his life in Cincinnati. Cleveland doesn't commit to Baker. Gruden runs off Carr. 

QB is where you put your most cap dollars. Build the rest and try and get the most certain option at the most expensive position.

All aboard the Kurt Couzinzes train - Woot Woot

1 hour ago, austinfan said:

It's a rebuilding year, these kind of games are common when you're rebuilding.

To me this season is about the 4 games after the bye week, those will tell you if the team is trending up or treading water or drowning.

Either young players develop and the team improves, or it's a long few years.

I though Hurts looked overwhelmed in the 1Q, then settled down, but by then the defense had put them in a hole. And the OL did him no favors. He was late on some throws, but he also made some beautiful throws, a rocket over the middle to Watkins called back, the TD to Ertz. The drop by Goeddert off his hands that could have gone 50 yards. I also thought he stayed in the pocket for the most part, just was late recognizing what was happening at times.

For all those who put stock in QB rating, Hurts is 99.2 after three games.

 

The offense didn't help with that hole by going 3 and out after 3 and out?

 

As for the QB rating... its amazing what garbage time stats will do.  Hurts was brutal last night.  And the 'stats' say 99.2 over the aggregate.  He was 86.2 in last night's game.  But, that's the result of garbage time.  That throw to Greg Ward was a great booster to the stats, but was truly meaningless.  Compare that to the INT on the first drive that was a huge part of the game.  (Sure, it set up the first TD by the defense, but it was a horrific throw.).  The Eagles' offense gave up as many points as they scored while the game mattered. Pick 6 one way and a single TD in the 3rd quarter.  The TD in the 4th quarter when the game was out of hand was meaningless.    The offense was horrific.  The defense was bad.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

 

I thought he looked good on the few run plays we had. He certainly looked worse in pass pro. 

5 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

Spencer Rattler better start playing like he did last year this Saturday and going forward. 

Spencer Rattler would be a terrible pick.  

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

Spencer Rattler would be a terrible pick.  

At least there wouldn’t be constant discussion about arm strength. 

3 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

All aboard the Kurt Couzinzes train - Woot Woot

I do not like that

1 hour ago, austinfan said:

Yeah, but these are the games when young teams get smoked, on the road, the first home game in Dallas, they're pumped up, and we're already piling up injuries (and too thin right now to sustain them).

If they go 5-12, interesting to see what Howie does next offseason:

Cox $2.3M saving

Slay $6.3M saving

Brooks $3.7M saving

Could clear out a lot of dead money in 2022, won't be able to sign FAs, but the decks would be clear for 2023 and onward.

This is not a young team.

20 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I'd love to see the All-22 to see what the routes looked like down the field... were they there to be had and Hurts just didn't see them or couldn't get them there, or was it a complete disaster?   

I don't need to see the All-22 to see we handed the ball off THREE TIMES...

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

Cox is only 2.3 in savings as a post June 1 cut, and that leaves 12.8 dead in 2022 and 12.8 dead in 2023.

Slay is only 4.3 in savings and 17.6 dead.

Brooks leaves 15.7 dead.

With the already 14.7 dead on the books next year, we would then have 60.8 million in dead cap.  110.6 million in combined dead cap 2021-2022.

Absolutely horrible cap management.  Howie does zero, nada, nothing, zilch well.  Worst GM in the NFL.

That real number is actually closer to over $30M when you count the players with voided years on their contract.

That wasn't Dickersons game last night, dropping back all fing night long

One of the sacks he gave up, Im pretty sure Hurts dropped back way too far