Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Wade got crapped on but we developed and drafted way better with him then any time since he’s been gone. Heck same thing happened to him in Houston. 

Yep, was thinking that after I posted about Houston.

Don’t shoot the messenger but was listening to mclane’s interview on 975 (i get its mclane) stated it wasn’t just the front office that wasn’t sold on hurts (hence strong interest in zack Wilson and watson) but the coaching staff wasn’t either and they kind of wanted their own guy.  

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Don’t shoot the messenger but was listening to mclane’s interview on 975 (i get its mclane) stated it wasn’t just the front office that wasn’t sold on hurts but the coaching staff wasn’t either and they kind of wanted their own guy.  

Makes sense with the timeline and the other story that Sirianni signed on expecting Wentz. Also curious about the delay between hiring Sirianni and then eventually Brian Johnson. Seems like he might have been a possible last minute hire to get the most out of Hurts they can. 

2 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I’ve never had a problem with broccoli but just always did the boring steam or sauté. Until I randomly tried making roasted broccoli and it’s an absolute game changer. 

Roasted broccoli in the oven with olive oil, sea salt, and cracked black pepper.

Out of the oven, hit it with sauteed pressed garlic, sweet chili oil, and real grated parmesan cheese.

It's a winner.

45 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

I see you still have Wentz's dick firmly planted down your throat.

Wow

17 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Wow

Yep pretty rough. It’s been like that lately. I’ve developed a if you can’t beat em join Attitude

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

If you wanna know what the definition of irony is, Facebook reminded me today I posted this 10 years ago 

Bullpen has been historically bad. Offense went months before turning it on then disappeared when it mattered most. Pitching staff was down most of the year outside of Wheeler and Squarez who didn’t join till late. 
 

Biggest problem is our Farm has nothing. 

39 minutes ago, jwill2420 said:

Bullpen has been historically bad. Offense went months before turning it on then disappeared when it mattered most. Pitching staff was down most of the year outside of Wheeler and Squarez who didn’t join till late. 
 

Biggest problem is our Farm has nothing. 

You need to clarify which of the past 10 years you are talking about. 
 
Remember when Dominic Brown was the crown jewel of the farm? Pepperidge Farm remembers. 

 

20 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Well duh. We all kind of knew that Chris. The real issue is does Watson want Philly.  

Probably not, but he's a vastly better option than Hurts. Let's hope the legal stuff gets cleared up, it's not too expensive and he is interested in coming here.

Won't happen, but we'll see.

Where on earth have I been? When did DeSean sign with the Rams?

7 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Don’t shoot the messenger but was listening to mclane’s interview on 975 (i get its mclane) stated it wasn’t just the front office that wasn’t sold on hurts (hence strong interest in zack Wilson and watson) but the coaching staff wasn’t either and they kind of wanted their own guy.  

Makes total sense.  Imagine you're a first time offensive minded, pass first head coach coming to a team who has an MVP-caliber (2 years removed) quarterback in Carson Wentz.  If you can get Wentz back on track and have him find that MVP form, you'll be loved in Philly and on the way to a successful HC career.

When you get here, they get rid of that quarterback and give you a guy who's started 4 games in the NFL and is not a good passer.  Everything you envisioned for the team you take over is now turned upside down. Hurts limits the kind of offense you want to run.  

99% of new head coaches want "their" guy.  Hurts is Howie's guy.

32 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Well duh. We all kind of knew that Chris. The real issue is does Watson want Philly.  

and at what cost to the Eagles?  If I'm the Eagles and Watson will accept a trade here, I'm doing everything I can to save the draft picks.  I'd include any combination of Hargrave, Cox, Goedert, Slay and Sanders on top of maybe one 1st round pick and some mid-round swaps.

15 hours ago, Original Sin said:

 

So all the things people have been arguing are drops, not bad throws is bubkiss!

18 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Where on earth have I been? When did DeSean sign with the Rams?

In the offseason....and somehow he is still healthy after Week 3.

47 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Well duh. We all kind of knew that Chris. The real issue is does Watson want Philly.  

Pretty sure the real issue is will he be suspended at any point in the future as a result of his legal predicament.

18 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Makes total sense.  Imagine you're a first time offensive minded, pass first head coach coming to a team who has an MVP-caliber (2 years removed) quarterback in Carson Wentz.  If you can get Wentz back on track and have him find that MVP form, you'll be loved in Philly and on the way to a successful HC career.

When you get here, they get rid of that quarterback and give you a guy who's started 4 games in the NFL and is not a good passer.  Everything you envisioned for the team you take over is now turned upside down. Hurts limits the kind of offense you want to run.  

99% of new head coaches want "their" guy.  Hurts is Howie's guy.

Great summary.  I can't imagine finding out afterwards that my wagon is hitched to the Hurts horse.   

I want Howie to trade for Watson, only to see the moment when the FO realise they've check mated themselves on the cap and roster depth by doing it.  If Watson can't polish a turd in Texas with a team a year or two back that had more depth, he sure ain't doing it in Philadelphia with this slop.  Esp with his legal situation still pending.

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Pretty sure the real issue is will he be suspended at any point in the future as a result of his legal predicament.

Can you imagine the research investment that is going into this decision?

22 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Makes total sense.  Imagine you're a first time offensive minded, pass first head coach coming to a team who has an MVP-caliber (2 years removed) quarterback in Carson Wentz.  If you can get Wentz back on track and have him find that MVP form, you'll be loved in Philly and on the way to a successful HC career.

When you get here, they get rid of that quarterback and give you a guy who's started 4 games in the NFL and is not a good passer.  Everything you envisioned for the team you take over is now turned upside down. Hurts limits the kind of offense you want to run.  

99% of new head coaches want "their" guy.  Hurts is Howie's guy.

All true, except that 2017 wasn't just two years ago. 

20 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

and at what cost to the Eagles?  If I'm the Eagles and Watson will accept a trade here, I'm doing everything I can to save the draft picks.  I'd include any combination of Hargrave, Cox, Goedert, Slay and Sanders on top of maybe one 1st round pick and some mid-round swaps.

With an actual QB, the Eagles can at least challenge for the division.  No need to make the team worse in other aspects yet.

7 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

I want Howie to trade for Watson, only to see the moment when the FO realise they've check mated themselves on the cap and roster depth by doing it.  If Watson can't polish a turd in Texas with a team a year or two back that had more depth, he sure ain't doing it in Philadelphia with this slop.  Esp with his legal situation still pending.

If Watson is on the field, we'd be a good team.

I just have no desire to root for Watson.

23 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

99% of new head coaches want "their" guy.  Hurts is Howie's guy.

Hurts has become Howie’s guy because of the chain of events leading to Wentz’s departure.  Hurts was a Weidl/Doug pick, and Howie was dumb enough to pull the trigger.

Howie is on the hook for the 2nd round investment of the pick, which is his accountability.  A 2nd round QB doesn’t typically get more than one season worth of rope, though, so Howie could wriggle out of that after this season — and the longer Hurts plays badly, the less egregious moving on from the pick looks, so don’t expect Hurts to get benched in the short term.

At least they didn’t spend a top 5 pick on Hurts like MIA did with Tua 

29 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Makes total sense.  Imagine you're a first time offensive minded, pass first head coach coming to a team who has an MVP-caliber (2 years removed) quarterback in Carson Wentz.  If you can get Wentz back on track and have him find that MVP form, you'll be loved in Philly and on the way to a successful HC career.

When you get here, they get rid of that quarterback and give you a guy who's started 4 games in the NFL and is not a good passer.  Everything you envisioned for the team you take over is now turned upside down. Hurts limits the kind of offense you want to run.  

99% of new head coaches want "their" guy.  Hurts is Howie's guy.

Hurts is Luries guy