What a BUM. Took a year off and didn't decide to practice with an NFL ball. 

Ja’Marr Chase: NFL ball is harder to catch than NCAA ball, harder to see without white stripes

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/09/09/jamarr-chase-nfl-ball-is-harder-to-catch-than-ncaa-ball-harder-to-see-without-white-stripes/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

1 hour ago, TorontoEagle said:

Football is finally back, thank god. So, let's make some predictions!

Of the playoff teams last year (GB, KC, TB, Buffalo, Indy, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Tennessee, Baltimore, Saints, Bears, Rams, Seachickens, WFT) which team(s) miss this year? 

Who do you got for MVP?  Justin Herbert 

O and D ROY?   Najee Harris OROY     Patrick Surtain DROY

Of the non-playoff teams last year, who makes this jump this year?  Dallas, SF, NE, LAC

Imma say Pittsburgh, Indy, Bears, Seahags miss out this year, replaced by Chargers, Patriots, 49ers, Cardinals. 

Josh Allen wins MVP. 

ROY goes to Trevor Lawrence who posts good numbers but doesn't get wins, and on D it goes to Rousseau who apparently had a great training camp. 

 

14 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I'm still pissed off about that.

I know im mad too! lol

8 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

They outsmarted themselves in the draft room, as they do too often.  Weidl and Doug got into Howie’s ear with the Hurts idea, and he jumped on it.  It was delusional to think they could draft a QB in the 2nd round while having the #2 overall pick starting and not think there would be problems.  Wentz raised objections when Howie called him to give him a heads-up about the pick — a smart GM would have scrapped the idea at that moment  

Yet Hurts isn’t caving to the threat of Flacco (a proven QB with a Super Bowl MVP and younger than Rodgers and Brady) or Gardner Minshew, who had decent stats with the Jags.  So why do we justify Wentz’s obvious failure as a QB by blaming the drafting of Hurts as the cause.  If that is the case, there is something seriously wrong with Wentz.  (Although, there are typically two types of response to benching at a young age, fighting to get back or throwing in the towel and quitting on the team. We will see with how Wentz does going forward.). Howie and the team have always been up front about needing two starter level QBs. Wentz’s injury history proves that.  

10 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

What a BUM. Took a year off and didn't decide to practice with an NFL ball. 

Ja’Marr Chase: NFL ball is harder to catch than NCAA ball, harder to see without white stripes

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/09/09/jamarr-chase-nfl-ball-is-harder-to-catch-than-ncaa-ball-harder-to-see-without-white-stripes/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

That is the LSU way. What is with that school producing lazy stupid players with attitude problems? Basketball and football 

 

What would the reaction be if Chase was an Eagle making this excuse for drops?

Rookie WR Ja’Marr Chase speaks about his pre-season drops: "The ball is different because it is bigger,” Chase said, via Bengals.com. "It doesn’t have the white stripes on the side so you can’t see the ball coming from the tip point so you actually have to look for the strings on the ball at the top, which is hard to see because whole ball is brown and you have the six strings that are white. But for the most part, just have to get used to it and find out what I am comfortable with catching.”

3 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Yet Hurts isn’t caving to the threat of Flacco (a proven QB with a Super Bowl MVP and younger than Rodgers and Brady) or Gardner Minshew, who had decent stats with the Jags.  So why do we justify Wentz’s obvious failure as a QB by blaming the drafting of Hurts as the cause.  If that is the case, there is something seriously wrong with Wentz.  (Although, there are typically two types of response to benching at a young age, fighting to get back or throwing in the towel and quitting on the team. We will see with how Wentz does going forward.). Howie and the team have always been up front about needing two starter level QBs. Wentz’s injury history proves that.  

You seem to forget that we needed weapons on offense. Who did Wentz have to throw to last year? Wasted pick definitely cause some of the regression 

2 hours ago, TorontoEagle said:

Football is finally back, thank god. So, let's make some predictions!

Of the playoff teams last year (GB, KC, TB, Buffalo, Indy, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Tennessee, Baltimore, Saints, Bears, Rams, Seachickens, WFT) which team(s) miss this year? 

Who do you got for MVP? 

O and D ROY? 

Of the non-playoff teams last year, who makes this jump this year? 

Imma say Pittsburgh, Indy, Bears, Seahags miss out this year, replaced by Chargers, Patriots, 49ers, Cardinals. 

Josh Allen wins MVP. 

ROY goes to Trevor Lawrence who posts good numbers but doesn't get wins, and on D it goes to Rousseau who apparently had a great training camp. 

Miss the playoffs:

 bears

Seahawks (they really didn’t look the same the second half of the year. The last 3 games their offense was really sputtering end it carried over into the playoff loss.)

 New Orleans

Steelers

make the playoffs:

niners

dallas (gross)

Carolina (i think they have a chance to be better than people think. I really like their offensive weapons especially if they keep darnold upright )

chargers 

 

mvp: Mahomes (rebuilt like I think he is going to be even more dangerous especially if hardman takes a leap and CEH improves in his second year— believe CEH will especially as a pass catcher)

offensive ROY: Fields (i would’ve taken lance if they started him. I think he has the best opportunity in terms of team around him to have early success. They have weapons galore on that offense, solid oline and shanahan as his coach. Don’t think he plays unless Jimmy G is really bad or when he gets hurt)

Defensive ROY: Patrick surtain. 

SB: chiefs vs. Rams. Chiefs win. Only reason i am taking the Rams is cause i don’t think the bucs make it back. And the only team i think has a defense that can get to brady and stop the bucs in the nfc is the Rams. I’d say Green Bay but i still don’t think their defense is good enough at corner besides Alexander. Plus I’d be more confident if the packers got better and more consistent production from MVS this year 

17 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

 

You have both WTF and the cowpads making the playoffs?

19 minutes ago, greend said:

You seem to forget that we needed weapons on offense. Who did Wentz have to throw to last year? Wasted pick definitely cause some of the regression 

After their offseason moves, after the draft and right before the season i said their WR group was still going to have issues. Relying on 34 year old desean to stay healthy was a mistake. Having the idea jeffery would come back from his foot injury and just be good again was a mistake (taking him off Pup when they did was compounding the mistake). Thinking 3 rookies would just hit the ground running when they had a weird pandemic offseason with minimal activities was a recipe for disaster. When Greg ward was your most reliable WR entering the season thats an issue. It’s why i said then and now definitively we can say they were a bottom 10 WR corps in the league. 

** forgot about jjaw who really needed a offseason dedicated to working with coaches after his rookie season and a bunch of different things. Didn’t get it due to the pandemic but we just figured hes a second round pick so he’ll turn into the player we thought in year two 

4 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I’m in.  

Is that your crappy draft prep notes in the bottom corner ??

1 hour ago, IggleWalt said:

Yeah, put all your eggs in a basket of a QB that has problems staying healthy. Great plan. The idiot isn't even vaccinated and will miss more time this year due to his ignorance. Some of you are just dumb.

This shouldn't need to be explained -- again -- but I'll do it anyway, just to slow things down for you:

June 2019 -- Eagles sign Wentz to a 4-year, $128M contract extension (that's a lot of eggs for any sized basket).  This was done after Wentz tore his ACL and LCL in December 2017, and a vertebral fracture in his back in 2018.

April 2020 -- Eagles spend a 2nd round pick on Jalen Hurts; a 2nd round pick to be a backup QB.

Take your pick -- Howie either drafted a player in the 2nd round to be a backup QB, or he decided to put in motion a plan to move on from a $128M asset only 10 months from writing the check, and before the first payment is made.  The Eagles just traded for Gardner Minshew and it cost only a conditional 6th round pick.  I'm not a big fan of Minshew but I'll freely admit his NFL credentials look superior to what we've seen of Hurts so far.

So, since some of us are dumb, perhaps you could explain it to us -- how did it make any sense to spend a 2nd round pick on a QB who might not be as good (hasn't been as good so far) as the QB you just obtained for a 6th round pick??

I'll say it again for the Wentz haters -- quit making the issue about Wentz.  Put any starting NFL QB you like in the same circumstances.  Drafting Hurts was dumb.

2 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

You have both WTF and the cowpads making the playoffs?

I do.  I think if Fitzpatrick plays just average this year they can be an 11-12 win team with that defense and the weapons he has on offense.  I also think based on talent (not coaching) the Cowboys can be a WC team.  

It sucks but those are just my honest thoughts on the NFCE teams right now.  I think the Saints take a huge step back and the Bears set themselves up for a mediocre season filled with QB controversies. 

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I’m in.  

If we melt down the coins we might get more for it 🤔

4 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

You'd think I prepped by how amazing my team is.  But you'd be wrong my friend.  I can go .500 with little to no effort.  

Looking at all the Steelers, I think you stole bacarty's notes

9 minutes ago, greend said:

You seem to forget that we needed weapons on offense. Who did Wentz have to throw to last year? Wasted pick definitely cause some of the regression 

Well Reagor was hurt and Watkins was developing. JJAW failed   Both Goedert and Ertz got hurt. Boobie hurt.  That left Ward and Scott.   But those are injuries.   Not a lack bringing in weapons.   Like it or not, Hurts has been the best pick that Howie has made in the second round other than maybe Boobie and Goedert (yet to start when Ertz is healthy) although both tend to get injured a bit too much.  Dickerson still limited and may not play his first year.  Jones, failure and didn’t play his first year  JJAW a fifth WR and didn’t play his first year. Second round is a crap shoot with Howie at the wheel. 

Just now, downundermike said:

Looking at all the Steelers, I think you stole bacarty's notes

Bacarty can write? 

1 hour ago, Ipiggles said:

The Wentz talk will end only if Wentz goes down in flames in Indy, or Hurts wins us a SB. All other out comes will only fan the flames of how bad this team screwed up that situation. 

As an Eagle fan we all know of good players who left the Birds and went and got SB rings elsewhere, while we watched. Not saying thats gonna happen, but it would be so like the Norm for us Eagle Fans. 

Reggie and who else?  Can't think of any good players off the top of my head. 

1 hour ago, IggleWalt said:

Yeah, put all your eggs in a basket of a QB that has problems staying healthy. Great plan. The idiot isn't even vaccinated and will miss more time this year due to his ignorance. Some of you are just dumb.

 

Did he miss games last year due to covid? 

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

After their offseason moves, after the draft and right before the season i said their WR group was still going to have issues. Relying on 34 year old desean to stay healthy was a mistake. Having the idea jeffery would come back from his foot injury and just be good again was a mistake (taking him off Pup when they did was compounding the mistake). Thinking 3 rookies would just hit the ground running when they had a weird pandemic offseason with minimal activities was a recipe for disaster. When Greg ward was your most reliable WR entering the season thats an issue. It’s why i said then and now definitively we can say they were a bottom 10 WR corps in the league. 

 

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

Well Reagor was hurt and Watkins was developing. JJAW failed   Both Goedert and Ertz got hurt. Boobie hurt.  That left Ward and Scott.   But those are injuries.   Not a lack bringing in weapons.   Like it or not, Hurts has been the best pick that Howie has made in the second round other than maybe Boobie and Goedert (yet to start when Ertz is healthy) although both tend to get injured a bit too much.  Dickerson still limited and may not play his first year.  Jones, failure and didn’t play his first year  JJAW a fifth WR and didn’t play his first year. Second round is a crap shoot with Howie at the wheel. 

See above and it absolutely was a lack of bringing in weapons. You have no idea whether Hurts is the best pick other than Goedert or Miles at this point.

1 hour ago, Bacarty2 said:

This is 1000000% correct. 

If you dated a super model worth millions and let her go it will ALWAYS HAUNT you until you get another millionaire super model. 

Now, if you let her go, and she blows up up like a tick, you're in the clear. I dont see that happening. 

I can see Wentz playing better because, well, he can't play much worse. 

Wouldn't surprise me if he gets injured again during the season.  That's what I'd be worried about most as far as getting that 1st rounder.

"Try Beat Dallas"

My bad if already posted. 

5 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Looking at all the Steelers, I think you stole bacarty's notes

Must have since cause the Steelers wr he didn’t get was bacarty’s JAG known as claypool. 

1 minute ago, greend said:

See above and it absolutely was a lack of bringing in weapons. You have no idea whether Hurts is the best pick other than Goedert or Miles at this point.

Based on Hurts' performance on the field so far, he stands to be one of the worst picks Howie has made.  If he doesn't develop this season it will go down as a historical draft blunder.