31 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2021/9/9/22663734/nfl-empathy-gap

Great article on analytics, football guys, et al. A few paragraphs about our Eagles too. 

It also explains why they jumped on Sirianni, he's a communicator who can bridge gaps in the organization.

One thing Howie does which is underrated is bring in people to fill in his gaps, he's brought in a bunch of "football guys" to help in talent evaluation, it's nice to focus on Donohue's displeasure, but why was he in the room in the first place? An insecure GM wouldn't want him around. 

Howie ain't gonna become warm and fuzzy, the Leopard doesn't change his spots, but bringing in a HC who has the qualities he lacks may reflect an offseason where Lowie looked at dysfunction and wanted a HC who can help balance those flaws, or why McDaniels was unlikely to be hired. Sirianni seems like the guy who'll talk to everyone in the building, and can get buy in by both players and staff.

5 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Well even if there wasn't a year one impact...Chinn would be in his 2nd year now, and our super massive black hole at safety wouldn't be so dire...

Chinn played LB last year.  He's transitioning to Safety this season.  

 

36 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Are you really saying Jeremy Chinn wouldn't have made a difference here?

116 tackles, 2 fumble return TD's, 2 forced fumbles, INT...the guy is a difference maker and that's as a rookie.

 

He played LB although Schwartz may have had him play safety.  I don't know that Schwartz would have utilized him the same here because aside from Mills and Barnett I don't think he has played rookies that much.  

DeVonta Smith will have 8+ receptions for 100+ yards in his NFL debut. 

1 hour ago, greend said:

Went downhill after the Millennials, never recovered.   

Social media has ruined a lot of Millennials/Gen Z. More specifically Gen Z since they came of age and grew up with it. Certainly doesn't apply to all. I know Millennials who are running their own companies now and a lot of smart, savvy Gen Z people. But I think as far as some of the younger athletes go, a lot of their deficiencies come from being absorbed in social media and all of the negativity that comes with it. 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Makes sense to me, I thought Pierschbacher had no future here, wasn't as good an athlete as Awosika or Opeta, and wasn't going to beat out Dickerson, Herbig as backup center. Not much upside and not a guy who could be groomed to play all three interior spots as a backup.

Elliss is an undersized 6'2 228 OLB with speed, which at worst makes him a potential ST guy.

10 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I agree to that time line but also think how you were raised comes into play.

I'm an 84, was raised hard core butt whopping's and consider myself an Gen X. 

I think it's more about whether you were just allowed to roam free most of the day.  I mean we got home from school and went out again until dark.  

9 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

@LeanMeanGM nfl style bold prediction: mahomes shows he’s finally proven in year 4 as a starter against the browns. 

False.  He will not be proven, until week 13 against the Broncos, his 57th start.  Still not sure how @austinfan came up with that arbitrary number.

 Go birds.

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

@LeanMeanGM nfl style bold prediction: mahomes shows he’s finally proven in year 4 as a starter against the browns. 

Wentz looked like a HOF candidate in 2017. Goff started his career with a bang. What makes you a top QB isn't one or two seasons, but longevity, Brees, Rodgers, Brady et al.

Mahomes will be a HOF candidate if he can stay healthy and continue to play at a high level.  IF.

31 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2021/9/9/22663734/nfl-empathy-gap

Great article on analytics, football guys, et al. A few paragraphs about our Eagles too. 

Pretty interesting. I know Eager (PFF) is trying to sell his product but he is overemphasizing analytics a bit. But even he is suggesting the data needs to be considered within context.   If it is creating a contentious climate in the Eagles putting the analytics against coaches or scouts, the the predictive models are being used incorrectly.  Predictive models offer a different view based on data analysis but is not a substitute for human decision making but rather a tool to assist in making those decisions.  The data is never that strong as to be the sole basis for a decision. If Howie and Lurie are doing that, they are misusing the tool. If they are using the tool as a method to second guess, that is just dumb.  

5 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

 Go birds.

 

This made me think of a bar near Milwaukee called the Alibi Tavern.  Back in the day when there were public pay phones, this bar would have about a half dozen available inside.  And each phone booth was equipped with a variety of background noises (bowling alley, bus station, etc.) so that you could convince the listener that you were somewhere else and not out drinking.

5 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

If Howie and Lurie are doing that, they are misusing the tool. If they are using the tool as a method to second guess, that is just dumb.  

Exhibit A : JJAWful

Exhibit B : Jalen Reagor

32 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

You’re not.  You’re a millennial .  Which shocks non one. 
 

Bye

FYI I wear the BOOMER TAG with honor!  

Just now, Ipiggles said:

FYI I wear the BOOMER TAG with honor!  

Me too

21 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I think it's more about whether you were just allowed to roam free most of the day.  I mean we got home from school and went out again until dark.  

we were told to stay out ofthe house, till dinner time. 

There is a very very unsubstantiated rumor that D'Andre Swift may have been involved in a shooting in Philadelphia.

 

Bucs "Hey Howie, thanks for paying this guy to work out this summer so we could evaluate other players during camp"

 

2 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

There is a very very unsubstantiated rumor that D'Andre Swift may have been involved in a shooting in Philadelphia.

 

I just seen they were talking about this in the comment section on the Pat McAfee show.  Posters kept saying something about Swift and murder charges.  I thought they were talking about Taylor Swift at first 😄

As a Jamaal Williams owner, Swift definitely did it

4 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

I thought they were talking about Taylor Swift at first 😄

I would let her F me to death.

34 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Wentz looked like a HOF candidate in 2017. Goff started his career with a bang. What makes you a top QB isn't one or two seasons, but longevity, Brees, Rodgers, Brady et al.

Mahomes will be a HOF candidate if he can stay healthy and continue to play at a high level.  IF.

I never said he was a HOFer. I said he was proven to be an elite QB as he’s been ELITE for 3 consecutive seasons. I don’t care if he gets hurt and he’s never the same after that point. The 3 seasons he’s played as a starter he’s won a nfl mvp, super bowl mvp and got to another super bowl. He legitimately should’ve been in 3 consecutive Super Bowls as a starting QB if not for a defensive end jumping offsides. So thats what i callproven and elite. You unfortunately made a hot take comment that he wasn’t proven to be elite. Mahomes has by far proven wayyyyyyy more than goff or wentz ever have over 3 different seasons. 

Again this argument didn’t start as he was a surefire HOFer. This argument started when you claimed he was not elite and still unproven. I have pulled up those quotes you’ve said and showed them to you in the past and yet ignore that’s how it started. 

17 minutes ago, austinfan said:

It also explains why they jumped on Sirianni, he's a communicator who can bridge gaps in the organization.

One thing Howie does which is underrated is bring in people to fill in his gaps, he's brought in a bunch of "football guys" to help in talent evaluation, it's nice to focus on Donohue's displeasure, but why was he in the room in the first place? An insecure GM wouldn't want him around. 

Howie ain't gonna become warm and fuzzy, the Leopard doesn't change his spots, but bringing in a HC who has the qualities he lacks may reflect an offseason where Lowie looked at dysfunction and wanted a HC who can help balance those flaws, or why McDaniels was unlikely to be hired. Sirianni seems like the guy who'll talk to everyone in the building, and can get buy in by both players and staff.

The Great Collaborator doesn’t have a real good record of bringing groups together though.  Let’s look at some recent reports:

Scouts wanted Jefferson, Doug wanted Reagor.  Ignore the folks whose job it is to spot talent.

Supposedly consults with coaches on trades, but trades for Avery and Schwartz doesn’t use him. 

Stoutland, who scouted most all OL did not speak with or work out Dillard because he is not viewed as a possibility so they trade up to pick an under scouted prospect.

Reports on Lurie and Howie having Pederson explain his playcalling on Mondays.

Reports of disconnect between analytics department and scouts and coaches.

That is horrible leadership. It also suggests poor decision making.  To conclude Sirianni is a communicator who can bridge communication not only presupposes something not proven but puts him in a role that really isn’t his to take and suggests even you see Howie as a failure in that role.

It shouldn't be Sirianni's job to "bridge communication within the organization". If you need your head coach to do that, then you are failing on an upper management level which falls more on Roseman and Lurie. If Roseman isn't listening to scouts during the draft process and just going rogue with his own picks, then that's on him. If he's dictating who starts and superseding the depth chart from the head coach, then that's on him. There needs to be a separation of powers. Let the head coach coach, gameplan, establish relationships within the locker room, and strategize. You don't need him to be a babysitter and a communication diplomat.  

9 minutes ago, downundermike said:

I would let her F me to death.

Same