lol

20 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Eagles fans have really been spoiled since the turn of the century with OTs.  From Thomas/Runyan to Peters/Johnson.    It would be nice if Dillard/Mailata could work out.   Here's hoping they show up well in the game on the night those two go into the Eagles HoF.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

lol

But 38 yards of YAC!!!

10 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

It's your fault for not having him on ignore.

I can't help it.  His posts are like staring at roadkill.  It's impossible not to look.  

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

lol

That could be partially why the Eagles vs Panthers game had the worst offensive efficiency on the day.

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

lol

Miles sanders celebrating after every reception 

Thursday would be an excellent opportunity for Sirianni to pound the run game and break some tendencies, put some more film out there for DCs have to prepare for.  The odds of winning are low; try to establish the LOS and push the Bucs defense back.  Bowles will have done a lot of prep work on defending screens, hitches, etc.  

It would keep the Bucs offense off the field and limit the number of drives.  They're not winning a shootout vs Brady, Evans, Godwin, Brown, etc. so the best plan might be to shorten the game and try to get another ST break like last week. 

1 minute ago, The Blackfish said:

That could be partially why the Eagles vs Panthers game had the worst offensive efficiency on the day.

Sirrianni game plan against the Panthers...

 

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Thursday would be an excellent opportunity for Sirianni to pound the run game and break some tendencies, put some more film out there for DCs have to prepare for.  The odds of winning are low; try to establish the LOS and push the Bucs defense back.  Bowles will have done a lot of prep work on defending screens, hitches, etc.  

It would keep the Bucs offense off the field and limit the number of drives.  They're not winning a shootout vs Brady, Evans, Godwin, Brown, etc. so the best plan might be to shorten the game and try to get another ST break like last week. 

Would be a good game for the fake WR screen and the go route to Watkins as well.

Bucs defense is on a historical pace against the run so far this year. It's probably not the week to work the running game.

46 minutes ago, greend said:

Depends, my boss is pretty cool. He might agree with me. Besides we're both a-holes.

He's right.  

38 minutes ago, olsilverhair said:

I thought it was acceptable to say queer, I thought that was one of the homosexuals accepted words to describe their lifestyle, 

Not allowed to smear them anymore.  

 

42 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

It's funny though, I've been watching some old Looney Toons cartoons and they exaggerated EVERYONE'S physical attributes.  However, what was accepted in 1941 isn't today.  

Had he called Smith the N-word,  that would be IMO racist.  He made a comment about a physical characteristic.....much like people make fun of him for looking like a Chuckie Doll.  Was it off-color and unnecessary?  Most definitely.  

Serious question...if a black person was at Disney World or down at the shore and had a caricature drawing done...if the artist gives them big lips is that racist or is he just portraying them in a comedic way?

 

 

Probably people wouldn't be so sensitive about it if there wasn't a long history of racism and discrimination in this country.  A lot of the racism and racist beliefs were tied to exaggerating physical differences between races.  So portraying black people with extremely big lips stems from the racist ideas that work to separate people.  You see black people are different than white people because they have bigger lips is used to justify segregation, miscegenation (laws against interracial marriage) and other biased behavior.  

I agree we can't know Gruden's intent.  I don't think the email about De Smith is what led to Gruden getting fired.  I mean De Smith thanked Gruden for reaching out and certainly didn't call for him to resign.  

10 minutes ago, hputenis said:

I can't help it.  His posts are like staring at roadkill.  It's impossible not to look.  

You stare at roadkill?  

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Would be a good game for the fake WR screen and the go route to Watkins as well.

Or, they can somehow work JJAW in since teams know when he's on the field he's blocking.  There has to be a play they can build off of that and get him open.

3 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

Bucs defense is on a historical pace against the run so far this year. It's probably not the week to work the running game.

Count on us running 95% of the time

 

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Or, they can somehow work JJAW in since teams know when he's on the field he's blocking.  There has to be a play they can build off of that and get him open.

 Where do you come up with such crazy stuff?!

16 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Keyshawn's comments about Gruden bring to mind an interesting contrast between personal knowledge of another human being and how valuable it is or should be.

Keyshawn said he's a fraud, etc. I think years ago people would value personal knowledge and interactions with another person as first and foremost. I think social media unfortunately has rewired peoples' brains to look at it otherwise.

For example if you're friends with someone and you've known them for a long time and they've always been kind to you, they've always been there for you, they've always treated you with respect and class, and then you found out they sent an email to someone else making fun of a specific aspect of your identity or ethnicity or what have you. I think 20 years ago, hell even 10 years ago most people would go "Yeah, that was Fed up to say those things, but I know this person and have known them for years, and I know what they're all about. He was just talking trash and what matters is how they treat me personally."

I don't think it's that way anymore for a lot of people. You could know someone for 30 years and they could have been the most amazing friend to you ever. But people today if they found out that person made a slight about their identity, they would go "No, that's the real you, I'm never speaking to you again!"

I think that's a shame. People are so complex and multilayered. People can be great people, but have a potty mouth or have a dark or vulgar or even offensive sense of humor. I'm not saying that was or wasn't Gruden. I have no idea. What I'm saying is, it would be a shame if people who knew Jon Gruden for many years and knew him as a good, kind, respectable person, to change an entire opinion on a guy over some emails, I think you're prioritizing the wrong thing to form an opinion on someone. You will always learn more about a person through personal interaction. And I think people today think you learn more through emails and social media posts.

Lifetime called they want you to do a mini series

5 minutes ago, DireWolf said:

It's really ok. We get it. 

You don't understand.  Might want to check out some of those classes " for you " . We know you're an expert on making recommendations " for everybody else " . 

You're doing it wrong...............AGAIN!  

8 minutes ago, greend said:

You stare at roadkill?  

not surprised 🤣

10 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

Bucs defense is on a historical pace against the run so far this year. It's probably not the week to work the running game.

Cool me watching the game on Thursday night when they actually shouldn’t run but try too 

7 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

 Where do you come up with such crazy stuff?!

The reports were that the only time JJAW is on the field is when they run WR screens...so you'd assume that instead of having him block they could lineup for a WR screen and instead of having him block they could build a route tree off of it.

Is that too farfetched?  

45 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

My apologies to anyone that might disagree with things I've said on here.  I'm just trying to think and discuss some of the current issues.  I think open discussion is important and it helps  hearing the majority of thoughts and viewpoints from guys on here...except AF when it comes to defending Howie.   We live in a strange time where language many of us used with our buddies in the locker room 15 years ago is now considered homophobic when the majority of us used it in a 100% innocent way while joking around with each other.  I'd venture those of us who have used the language never used it towards anyone in those specific groups.  

Nothing more from me regarding the Gruden issue. 

 

One thing I would point out is that there are more people on here empathizing with Gruden rather than De Smith, Goodell or the other targets of Gruden's emails. Why do you think you empathize with Gruden versus De Smith or Michael Sam.  

Just now, DireWolf said:

This ring a bell? 

 

 I can't tell what this means but I think you're fighting with people on here.  

6 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

The reports were that the only time JJAW is on the field is when they run WR screens...so you'd assume that instead of having him block they could lineup for a WR screen and instead of having him block they could build a route tree off of it.

Is that too farfetched?  

Most offensive coaches would build something off that play, not sure why Sirrianni, steichan have not???

2 minutes ago, DireWolf said:

This ring a bell? 

 

7 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

Bucs defense is on a historical pace against the run so far this year. It's probably not the week to work the running game.

Exactly... they'd never see it coming.