1 minute ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

You’re entitled to your opinion, but I think what makes a good fleet vehicle makes a sensible vehicle for someone who doesn’t really care about cars other than it’s clean and dependable and isn’t costing more money that it needs to in order to accomplish these things in the long term

Plus VTECH

18 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

Plus VTECH

VTech makes crappy phones.

VTEC is the Honda's electronic control system for engine timing.

29 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

VTech makes crappy phones.

VTEC is the Honda's electronic control system for engine timing.

Oh. Don't care, but cool.

1 hour ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

You’re entitled to your opinion, but I think what makes a good fleet vehicle makes a sensible vehicle for someone who doesn’t really care about cars other than it’s clean and dependable and isn’t costing more money that it needs to in order to accomplish these things in the long term

if I needed to get around back country, similarly I wouldn’t go for a hummer or whatever is considered luxurious.  I’d go for the type of vehicle that does the job without costing anything more for anything I don’t need

Translation: you are poor. 

41 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Translation: you are poor. 

And you waste money on yourself

13 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

And you waste money on yourself

 

It’s true.  There’s an ethical consideration when it comes to spending money on needless things

 

 

4 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

It’s true.  There’s an ethical consideration when it comes to spending money on needless things

Explain.

7 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

Explain.

Read Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlit.  If you have then you know.  When you spend money you take from the great economic pie available to everyone.  A wealthy man of character understands that while he may enjoy some of life’s pleasures, to over indulge entails a certain piggishness due to your taking from what someone else might need 

2 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Read Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlit.  If you have then you know.  When you spend money you take from the great economic pie available to everyone.  A wealthy man of character understands that while he may enjoy some of life’s pleasures, to over indulge entails a certain piggishness due to your taking from what someone else might need 

Sounds like something somebody with very little or no disposable income would say or think. 

1 minute ago, Boogyman said:

Sounds like something somebody with very little or no disposable income would say or think. 

Or someone with so much that it’s meaningless

2 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Or someone with so much that it’s meaningless

Well if it's meaningless to you, give everything away to someone who finds it meaningful, and drive a crappy Civic forever.

 

What you call meaningless someone else may consider important.

I know a guy who claims to be wealthy who eats at McDonald’s all the time

4 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Or someone with so much that it’s meaningless

Also, I would assume you would call someone with a gold toilet extremely, disgustingly unethical. 

4 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

Also, I would assume you would call someone with a gold toilet extremely, disgustingly unethical. 

Not necessarily, I think this requires some analysis of what has actually been taken from the economic pie that otherwise wouldn’t have been taken.  The gold was presumably already there and was probably going to be stacked in a vault otherwise.  And presumably the rich guy needed a toilet anyway.  So on this I don’t see any harm being done 

 

To the extent that turning the gold into toilet makes it more difficult for the gold to return to its usual function as money at a later date, I suppose there’s some waste, but it’s probably de minimis 

1 minute ago, Dave Moss said:

I know a guy who claims to be wealthy who eats at McDonald’s all the time

What someone claims they have or what they want to eat is fairly irrelevant here imo. The idea that a person is unethical because he decides to spend money that he has earned on something the average guy would consider expensive is a really dumb take.

I can be outspoken when a person buys crap way above their "station", but then is always broke. But if you have savings, investments, and still have cash left over, do what you want with it. I mean do what you want anyway really.

 

Actually, spending money is probably more ethical than hoarding it.

35 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

It’s true.  There’s an ethical consideration when it comes to spending money on needless things

If people are living within their means, then who cares?

People of means spending money on "needless things" creates entirely new products and markets (and jobs) given the right circumstances.

Just now, JohnSnowsHair said:

If people are living within their means, then who cares?

People of means spending money on "needless things" creates entirely new products and markets (and jobs) given the right circumstances.

Indeed which is why my claim wasn’t that spending that sort of money is always bad.  I only claim that there’s a certain amount of ethical consideration in the decision over exactly where to direct these discretionary funds

Just now, JohnSnowsHair said:

If people are living within their means, then who cares?

People of means spending money on "needless things" creates entirely new products and markets (and jobs) given the right circumstances.

Right? I mean the entire vacation industry could be considered needless in a purely practical sense, but generates an ish-ton of economy, and often in locations that would have little else.

 

1 minute ago, Boogyman said:

What someone claims they have or what they want to eat is fairly irrelevant here imo. The idea that a person is unethical because he decides to spend money that he has earned on something the average guy would consider expensive is a really dumb take.

I can be outspoken when a person buys crap way above their "station", but then is always broke. But if you have savings, investments, and still have cash left over, do what you want with it. I mean do what you want anyway really.

 

Actually, spending money is probably more ethical than hoarding it.

"Buy buy buy!" - the Governator

 

1 minute ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Indeed which is why my claim wasn’t that spending that sort of money is always bad.  I only claim that there’s a certain amount of ethical consideration in the decision over exactly where to direct these discretionary funds

If Vikas wants to spend his discretionary funds keeping the single moms and coke dealers of Vegas employed, I for one support him.

1 minute ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Indeed which is why my claim wasn’t that spending that sort of money is always bad.  I only claim that there’s a certain amount of ethical consideration in the decision over exactly where to direct these discretionary funds

No there is not. I made the money, I'll spend it how I please. For the record I'm not even a car guy and I live fairly simple life.

Let’s go back to the car.  The problem with luxury vehicles I gather is usually they require a lot of man hours from particularly skilled workers to create.  People with that sort of skill could be using their hands repairing hearts or potentially anything else that requires great skill.  Instead you would have them create you a vehicle that has stuff you don’t really care about except to impress other people so they don’t think your poor.

Just now, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Let’s go back to the car.  The problem with luxury vehicles I gather is usually they require a lot of man hours from particularly skilled workers to create.  People with that sort of skill could be using their hands repairing hearts or potentially anything else that requires great skill.  Instead you would have them create you a vehicle that has stuff you don’t really care about except to impress other people so they don’t think your poor.

Holy ish, he's retarded!