June 17, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: or you could just be wrong again And you could offer an alternative interpretation, but you'll probably just sit there and spout off curt phrases about how "wrong" I am. It hardly does much to acquit yourself. Regardless, my post was largely complimentary of Western styles of government in the modern sense. Taking your response at face value and applying it to everyhing I said, I can only assume that you are disenchanted with republican systems and favor imperial ones.
June 17, 20223 yr acquit your own naive assertion there have been plenty of successes and failures post colonlialism. has nothing to do with it. has everything to do with corruption... If african nations were smart they would leverage these types of resources into jobs, infrastructure, etc. but they wont. because failed cultures accept absurd levels of corruption. its expected.
June 17, 20223 yr You honestly think that centuries of imperialist exploitation doesn't affect the status of African nations in the current day?
June 17, 20223 yr It hasn’t been smooth sailing for the United States former colony the Philippines since they gained independence either. Corruption is just an easy excuse for guys like TJ who don’t really have a clue what they’re talking about.
June 17, 20223 yr 18 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Corruption is just an easy excuse for guys like TJ who don’t really have a clue what they’re talking about. It's the same lame-brained "argument" people use for why we shouldn't bother assisting Ukraine.
June 17, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, EaglesRocker97 said: You honestly think that centuries of imperialist exploitation doesn't affect the status of African nations in the current day? Strawman. Do better 1 hour ago, Dave Moss said: It hasn’t been smooth sailing for the United States former colony the Philippines since they gained independence either. Corruption is just an easy excuse for guys like TJ who don’t really have a clue what they’re talking about. No its what those of us with real jobs beyond fake academic ones have come to experience.
June 17, 20223 yr 20 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: No its what those of us with real jobs beyond fake academic ones have come to experience. You think your experience working at a job in America helps you understand Africa? Instead of, ya know… …actually studying Africa?
June 17, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Can't it be both? They tend to go hand-in-hand. There's corruption everywhere, but I'd argue that colonial/imperial systems are more rife with corruption than republican ones, and the states that take root in their wake often have a hard time shaking the kind of corruption that is endemic to the structures that they replaced. I can't say for sure, but it seems to me that polities become more insidiously corrupt under imperial/dynastic systems . Africa is probably more thoroughly corrupt than the U.S (although it's hard to really lump the continent together as a whole), but it is also comprised of substantially younger republics. It really depends on the empire/culture. The British Empire, for instance, was was pretty square compared to their contemporaries.
June 17, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said: You honestly think that centuries of imperialist exploitation doesn't affect the status of African nations in the current day? The best thing to ever happen to African nations was colonization. So, yeah, I’d say it had a pretty big affect.
June 17, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, TEW said: The best thing to ever happen to African nations was colonization. So, yeah, I’d say it had a pretty big affect. White man's burden, amirite?
June 17, 20223 yr Just now, EaglesRocker97 said: White man's burden, amirite? Reality. That doesn’t mean horrible things didn’t happen, but the idea that Africa as a whole isn’t better off on balance because of colonization is laughable.
June 17, 20223 yr 10 hours ago, Dave Moss said: You think your experience working at a job in America helps you understand Africa? Instead of, ya know… …actually studying Africa? Considering i have helped stand up labs and trials around the world? Yes. Try setting up a malaria trial in africa far superior experience to you looking at words from other 13th grade teachers who havent actually done a damn thing
June 19, 20223 yr On 6/16/2022 at 11:15 PM, Dave Moss said: You think your experience working at a job in America helps you understand Africa? Instead of, ya know… …actually studying Africa? When you deal with those countries? Absolutely. Have you ever done anything to actually work a deal with any other cultures? Doubtful… i will leave the useless academic theories to you guys. You seem to like wasting your time.
June 20, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, lynched1 said: It's funny that anyone would look at this example and say what stands out to them is that the government manufactured a food crisis. LMAO
June 20, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Dave Moss said: It's funny that anyone would look at this example and say what stands out to them is that the government manufactured a food crisis. LMAO It does have the required circumstances does it not?
June 20, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, lynched1 said: It does have the required circumstances does it not? The government was trying to destroy the Native American way of life / Native American culture. Ever heard of George Armstrong Custer? He wasn’t out West trying to manufacture a food crisis.
June 20, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Dave Moss said: The government was trying to destroy the Native American way of life / Native American culture. Ever heard of George Armstrong Custer? He wasn’t out West trying to manufacture a food crisis. Primitive cultures usually lose out in competition
June 20, 20223 yr 7 hours ago, Dave Moss said: The government was trying to destroy the Native American way of life / Native American culture. Ever heard of George Armstrong Custer? He wasn’t out West trying to manufacture a food crisis. Exactly. Our way of life is next on the menu.
June 20, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, lynched1 said: Exactly. Our way of life is next on the menu. So you’re predicting aliens land here or something?
June 20, 20223 yr 27 minutes ago, lynched1 said: Exactly. Our way of life is next on the menu. the return of prohibition?
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