Russia/Ukraine

[DaEagles4Life]

 

[Gannan]

Russia and China proclaim their alliance. Russia moves on Ukraine, China moves on Taiwan, and they dare the U.S. to do something about it. Stand up to them now or try to fight them 10 years from now when they go after Japan/SK and Europe. 

[Mike31mt]

31 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Russia and China proclaim their alliance. Russia moves on Ukraine, China moves on Taiwan, and they dare the U.S. to do something about it. Stand up to them now or try to fight them 10 years from now when they go after Japan/SK and Europe. 

Lol Biden is our POTUS so what the hell do you think is going to happen?

Thanks X a billion for electing this total farce of a dementia patient

[Gannan]

58 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Lol Biden is our POTUS so what the hell do you think is going to happen?

Thanks X a billion for electing this total farce of a dementia patient

[Kz!]

Trump brought Russia and North Korea to heel. Good points, Gannan. 

[mayanh8]

1 hour ago, Mike31mt said:

Lol Biden is our POTUS so what the hell do you think is going to happen?

Thanks X a billion for electing this total farce of a dementia patient

[Kz!]

And yet, they waited until he left office to posture the way they are now. Why, it's almost as if they wanted someone a little more incontinent as POTUS before making any moves. Strange.  

[mayanh8]

Just now, Kz! said:

And yet, they waited until he left office to posture the way they are now.

The Russian military buildup started in 2018, comrade. 

[Kz!]

2 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

The Russian military buildup started in 2018, comrade. 

Do you think Putin made the decision to posture this aggressively before or after Biden crap himself at the Vatican?  

[mayanh8]

2 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Do you think Putin made the decision to posture this aggressively before or after Biden crap himself at the Vatican?  

I'll bet you were feeling pretty good about yourself before I jumped in and just completely derailed your nonsensical "posturing" argument.

[VanHammersly]

Kz, maybe...take a day off?  It's not going well today.

[Dave Moss]

Russia’s invasion of the Ukraine is kind of a lost cause at this point.  Taiwan is a different matter entirely.  China should f around and find out.

[Kz!]

8 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

I'll bet you were feeling pretty good about yourself before I jumped in and just completely derailed your nonsensical "posturing" argument.

Yeah, I'll bet it was after, too.   

7 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Kz, maybe...take a day off?  It's not going well today.

Still butthurt over the blender thing? Hate to see it.  

[SNOORDA]

14 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Russia’s invasion of the Ukraine is kind of a lost cause at this point.  Taiwan is a different matter entirely.  China should f around and find out.

Why do we care about Taiwan again?  

[Dave Moss]

6 minutes ago, SNOORDA said:

Why do we care about Taiwan again?  

After the communists won the Chinese civil war the existing government fled to Taiwan.  We’ve been backing them ever since.

[SNOORDA]

3 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

After the communists won the Chinese civil war the existing government fled to Taiwan.  We’ve been backing them ever since.

 Doesn’t seem worth investing in or fighting for to me  
 

 

 

[Gannan]

1 hour ago, Kz! said:

Trump brought Russia and North Korea to heel. Good points, Gannan. 

[Gannan]

27 minutes ago, SNOORDA said:

Why do we care about Taiwan again?  

The stupid, it burns...

People are bishing bout $40 for gas... wanna pay 5k for a cell phone and 80k for a car?

[Gannan]

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/16/2-charts-show-how-much-the-world-depends-on-taiwan-for-semiconductors.html

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Taiwan’s outsized role in chipmaking has come under the spotlight as a global shortage of semiconductors forced several automakers to halt production.

Countries including the U.S. and Germany reached out to Taiwan to help alleviate bottlenecks in the production of chips. The shortage was a result of increased demand for electronics during the Covid-19 pandemic, and was exacerbated by former President Donald Trump’s trade war with China.

 

Taiwan dominates the foundry market, or the outsourcing of semiconductor manufacturing. Its contract manufacturers together accounted for more than 60% of total global foundry revenue last year, according to data by Taipei-based research firm TrendForce.

Much of Taiwan’s dominance can be attributed to Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co or TSMC, the world’s largest foundry that counts major technology firms such as Apple, Qualcomm and Nvidia as its clients. TSMC accounted for 54% of total foundry revenue globally last year, TrendForce data showed.

Semiconductors are critical components that power electronics from computers and smartphones to the brake sensors in cars. The production of chips involves a complex network of firms that design or make them, as well as those that supply the technology, materials and machinery to do so.  

TSMC focuses solely on manufacturing and has been the go-to producer for many cutting-edge semiconductors, Dan Wang, a technology analyst at research firm Gavekal, said in a podcast by Singapore’s DBS bank.  

 

 

[Gannan]

P.S. this is why we need to care about South Korea too. 

[SNOORDA]

19 minutes ago, Gannan said:

The stupid, it burns...

People are bishing bout $40 for gas... wanna pay 5k for a cell phone and 80k for a car?

So it’s economics more than anything.   That’s all you had to say.  

The stupid comment is is just that   Stupid.  
 

note to self   Gannon knows all about everything   

economics isn’t one of my strong points awhole 

[Gannan]

22 minutes ago, SNOORDA said:

So it’s economics more than anything.   That’s all you had to say.  

The stupid comment is is just that   Stupid.  
 

note to self   Gannon knows all about everything   

economics isn’t one of my strong points awhole 

Its not just you, its our society in general. So many Americans can't look past not only their own country, but their own town, and their own personal lives in general and it's making us stupid. 

[SNOORDA]

10 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Its not just you, its our society in general. So many Americans can't look past not only their own country, but their own town, and their own personal lives in general and it's making us stupid. 

I honestly will never understand our interests in trading with China.    I get the cheep labor thing.   But how is that working for us when we are in permanent debt to them?   Seems as though we should be keeping our business in this hemisphere and more specifically Mexico and Canada.   But like I said,   I’m not an economist I’m an electrician.  

[Alpha_TATEr]

i still cant get over the brought to heel comment. more of that please. 

[Gannan]

32 minutes ago, SNOORDA said:

I honestly will never understand our interests in trading with China.    I get the cheep labor thing.   But how is that working for us when we are in permanent debt to them?   Seems as though we should be keeping our business in this hemisphere and more specifically Mexico and Canada.   But like I said,   I’m not an economist I’m an electrician.  

Those are 2 separate issues. On trading with the Chinese...The long and short of it is, Chinese labor and production costs were the cheapest and everyone else was doing it. If we didn't, we wouldn't have been able to compete with other major world economic powers.

We need someone to buy our debt because we've become conditioned as a society to want both major government spending and entitlements while simultaneously having miniscule (comparatively) tax rates. I've always thought that allowing China to hold so much of our debt was/is a national security risk. There was/is a school of thought that it isn't because China is such a quickly growing economy that they have nowhere else to invest. The idea of them investing in the Russian Ruble instead of the US dollar is still kind of an absurd thought. However, President Xi is probably the strongest and most well equipped dictator we've had to deal with since Hitler. His ambitions are scary (as are Putin's).

In some ways the current state of international affairs is cyclical and reminiscent of 1930's. However, what we are dealing with now is in many ways more scary, not just because of the nuclear threat, but that the worlds major dictatorships are putting ideology aside. In the 1930's the fascists and communists were natural enemies. Now they are allies, along with Islamic fundamentalist regimes like Iran.