February 25, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, Kz! said: Yes, interacting on a message board is very comparable to voting in a presidential election. Dear Sir or Madam, I see the point has completely eluded you. Considering the previous correspondence from you this has not come as a shock to anyone. The response was not to compare writing on a messageboard to actually voting in an election, but a comparison of the way people vote to the way people can communicate. Each process has changed from their original intentions and generally have improved in the way that they operate. However, we should not as a society stick to a specific way and then mock an updated way because a political party or any group, in general, has decided it is against their best interest. I implore you in future writing to address me with the proper cadence within each post as to which I can properly respond back. Cordially, Pallidrone
February 25, 20223 yr Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said: There are a lot of looney lefties in here. But only a few moronic ones get put on ignore. The best part of him dried up on the backseat of a pinto. He's a waste. Or in your case, any single person who makes a post that injures your extremely fragile feelings.
February 25, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: This for sure. The problem for him is that the people of Ukraine have had a taste of democracy now, there's no way they'll submit to an autocratic puppet without a prolonged fight. Hard to say. The United States has had a sense of democracy for over 200 years... Yet there are plenty of Americans who would prefer a dictatorship. I am sure there are many Ukrainians, and Russians in Ukraine, who would welcome Putin's grasp on the country.
February 25, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I tried to qualify my answer because like I said actual policy discussion here is rare. I said "in the range of radical" or something like that because you do go pretty hard at the numnuts here, but I guess so do I lol. Trying to come up with a list of anybody on either side that has actually espoused "radical" policy positions is not easy. The problem is the definition of "radical" is going to vary pretty significantly from person to person. Policy wise I'm pretty far left on a lot of things. I'm sure plenty of people on here would call me radical on them, whereas some of my friends consider me moderate. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
February 25, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said: So let me follow this... Trump waswith not giving a boat load of money to Nato(which american people were ok with) and Russia people were ok with. But now, Biden, gives more money to nato(which americans didnt want) and Russia got angry. Putin has a long term strategic plan to make Russia a great power once again. While in office Trump helped Putin thru weakening NATO and driving chaos within the US. Once Trump left office Putin took more direct action leading to the invasion.
February 25, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: At least three or four of us have already answered this in here. Trump was already doing the work of weakening both the US democracy and NATO. It was in Putin’s best interest to allow Trump to continue to do that. And its still total bull ish Trump didnt weaken US democracy. To blame him on that and just assume its truth is hilarious. Somehow he weakened it so much that things played out exactly as they should and he was voted out. Our democracy is fine, stop parroting this propaganda. And again, where is NATO now? Why did Putin invade all these other countries before Trump? This is nonsense. Its an excuse to avoid admitting that Trump was a truly effective foreign policy POTUS. Just admit it. No one will get you.
February 25, 20223 yr Just now, DEagle7 said: The problem is the definition of "radical" is going to vary pretty significantly from person to person. Policy wise I'm pretty far left on a lot of things. I'm sure plenty of people on here would call me radical on them, whereas some of my friends consider me moderate. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Politically I am pretty far from radical. Being "loud" is irrelevent to that fact. I'd guess my political opinions most closely match those of Vikas, which is pretty funny since our lifestyles are very different.
February 25, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, toolg said: Hard to say. The United States has had a sense of democracy for over 200 years... Yet there are plenty of Americans who would prefer a dictatorship. I am sure there are many Ukrainians, and Russians in Ukraine, who would welcome Putin's grasp on the country. Covid?
February 25, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Putin has a long term strategic plan to make Russia a great power once again. While in office Trump helped Putin thru weakening NATO and driving chaos within the US. Once Trump left office Putin took more direct action leading to the invasion. Bull. Ish. Revisonist history and there are holes in this logic. Just acknowledge reality, please.
February 25, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: And its still total bull ish Trump didnt weaken US democracy. To blame him on that and just assume its truth is hilarious. Somehow he weakened it so much that things played out exactly as they should and he was voted out. Our democracy is fine, stop parroting this propaganda. And again, where is NATO now? Why did Putin invade all these other countries before Trump? This is nonsense. Its an excuse to avoid admitting that Trump was a truly effective foreign policy POTUS. Just admit it. No one will get you. Trump was and is a buffoon and yes he weakened the US considerably. Doesn’t mean Biden has been effective. Note that I did not blame Trump in this post.
February 25, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said: so again, Putin waited for Trump to leave to attack.... I said in my first post on this topic that Putin wouldn’t have invaded with Trump in office. That had nothing to do with strong or effective foreign policy under Trump. Quite the opposite.
February 25, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, toolg said: Hard to say. The United States has had a sense of democracy for over 200 years... Yet there are plenty of Americans who would prefer a dictatorship. I am sure there are many Ukrainians, and Russians in Ukraine, who would welcome Putin's grasp on the country. True, but the hope is that the Republican-style embrace of fascism hasn't set in with a country as new to democracy as Ukraine.
February 25, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Putin has a long term strategic plan to make Russia a great power once again. While in office Trump helped Putin thru weakening NATO and driving chaos within the US. Once Trump left office Putin took more direct action leading to the invasion. Except the Secretary General of NATO admitted that Trump's policy actually strengthened NATO. Quote "We agreed to do more to step up – and now we see the results. By the end of next year, NATO allies will add $100 billion extra toward defense," he said. "So we see some real money and some real results. And we see that the clear message from President Donald Trump is having an impact."
February 25, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said: so again, Putin waited for Trump to leave to attack.... More like he waited for him to finish doing damage. "Never interrupt your opponent" and all that stuff.
February 25, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: Russia doesn't have GPS on their equipment? Sheesh. A couple weeks ago I saw a pic from a Russian fighter pilot on an intercept of a US aircraft. There was a legit commercial Garmin handheld unit tied to the dash.
February 25, 20223 yr Just now, DrPhilly said: Trump was and is a buffoon and yes he weakened the US considerably. Doesn’t mean Biden has been effective. Note that I did not blame Trump in this post. How? How did he weaken the US? If anything, he established more political leverage than what we had previously over Russia. The last time I looked Trump iancreased our military readiness, took numerous direct actions against Putin (economic and military), conducted a series of other military actions and did so with almost no repercussions (ISIS, Iran, etc), all while maintaining peace and not creating additional conflicts Your narrative doesnt agree with what actually happened. The fact that you even had to craft one should tell you that you're wrong.
February 25, 20223 yr 15 minutes ago, Bill said: Both sides are taking sporadic casualties, but in places they’re adding up. Eerie stuff like whole truck columns just stopped in the road, dead strewn about. Looks like a zombie movie. Are those eerie casualties Russian? If so I have to believe there are some guerilla forces that are out there operating independently looking for opportunities.
February 25, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, The_Omega said: Except the Secretary General of NATO admitted that Trump's policy actually strengthened NATO. Put the link to the article please. I want to see the context of that statement. Bottom line was NATO relations were strained under Trump.
February 25, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Mike030270 said: Did mods move posts or did tate come over to cvon? Just now, Mike030270 said: This was actually a Ukrainian aircraft shot down by a Russian mobile SAM launcher. IIRC it was a SU-25. I’ve seen some footage of where they found the pilot’s remains. It would make 2004 era Live Leak look like The Disney Channel.
February 25, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: True, but the hope is that the Republican-style embrace of fascism hasn't set in with a country as new to democracy as Ukraine. Covid? Climate change? 4 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Except the Secretary General of NATO admitted that Trump's policy actually strengthened NATO. Oops
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